Topic: Compassion
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Mon 12/22/08 05:26 PM



Have you practiced compassion today?


I practice compassion every day Smiless.

What's your idea of compassion?

To never disagree with anyone? huh



Is that what you believe I understand on compassion because I don't debate with different belief systems? I learned that the only one who will change their own minds on faith is the person themself. No one can do it for him or her.

You see in a world of hate and violence, there are still those who remain, in the strictest sense, detached from such destructive feelings. Individuals see themselves as kind and benevolent while we are always trying to change others. In reality, the only ones we can change are ourselves.

In order for us to change the world, then, we must start with ourselves.

Many have the misconception of the idea of unconditional love and compassion for one another and the fear we have of being taken advantage of.

People have a certain idea that if we are compassionate then we just sit there and say "Oh, it's all ok. You beat me up yesterday but I forgive you so I'll let you beat me up again today because that is cultivating compassion. But that is stupidity, not compassion. There is a difference.

Compassion is simply the wish for living beings to be free of what causes their suffering. In essence compassion means wishing others well and helping if possible.

Most people commit crimes because they are in a state of internal unhappiness. That is a vital moment in which they need to be wished happiness the most, not the instinctive hate our society has been taught to offer.

I am aware of the difficulty of forgiveness, especially when we've been greatly wronged. We can hold onto the hatred for years and years and where does it get us? Nowhere. When we hold onto hatred, we are the ones who suffer not the other. So when will you let go?

Forgiveness is letting go of anger and hatred that would otherwise make us miserable and those around us miserable.

I am aware you understand compassion, but do you actually practice it? Are you free from your suffering? If not what can you do to change this.





Smiless drinker

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Mon 12/22/08 05:30 PM

Do you post for the sole purpose of argument? Because the things you post seem irrational and illogica.


so "JennieBean"..why are you making it personal ... have you no compassion?

besides anyone that makes claims about being compassionate as if they have some extraordinary abilty to feel the woes of humanity are really just being self-absorbed ...

especially the ones that claim to be compassionate but somehow can't find enough compassion within themselves to act on it ..

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Mon 12/22/08 06:19 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 12/22/08 06:21 PM


Do you post for the sole purpose of argument? Because the things you post seem irrational and illogica.


so "JennieBean"..why are you making it personal ... have you no compassion?

besides anyone that makes claims about being compassionate as if they have some extraordinary abilty to feel the woes of humanity are really just being self-absorbed ...

especially the ones that claim to be compassionate but somehow can't find enough compassion within themselves to act on it ..


Why do you feel I am making it personal?

A person can feel compassionate about the woes of humanity without acting it. There are millions of causes to get involved with. A person can pick one if it makes them feel better, but at some point they have to realize that they can't save humanity or the world.

But the only practical thing you can actually act on is people you meet in your daily life unless you intend to dedicate your life to "saving the world."

I have known people who are angry at the injustice of the world and always fighting for some cause and yet they can't even be kind and considerate towards their wife, family or friends. In short, they suck at real compassion and kindness. Those are people who are self absorbed.






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Mon 12/22/08 06:49 PM

A person can feel compassionate about the woes of humanity without acting it.


"jennieBean" that feeling may be the end results of eating a bad burrito...

let's say you are compassionate and didn't act on it ...explain how it would be meaningful to anyone besides yourself

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Mon 12/22/08 06:53 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 12/22/08 06:53 PM


A person can feel compassionate about the woes of humanity without acting it.


"jennieBean" that feeling may be the end results of eating a bad burrito...

let's say you are compassionate and didn't act on it ...explain how it would be meaningful to anyone besides yourself



It wouldn't.

Nothing has meaning except for what an individual gives it.

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Mon 12/22/08 06:59 PM



A person can feel compassionate about the woes of humanity without acting it.


"jennieBean" that feeling may be the end results of eating a bad burrito...

let's say you are compassionate and didn't act on it ...explain how it would be meaningful to anyone besides yourself



It wouldn't.

Nothing has meaning except for what an individual gives it.


so if it's not meaningful to anyone besides yourself ...then how is it compassion

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Tue 12/23/08 09:48 AM




A person can feel compassionate about the woes of humanity without acting it.


"jennieBean" that feeling may be the end results of eating a bad burrito...

let's say you are compassionate and didn't act on it ...explain how it would be meaningful to anyone besides yourself



It wouldn't.

Nothing has meaning except for what an individual gives it.


so if it's not meaningful to anyone besides yourself ...then how is it compassion



The ability to feel compassion and/or love can only be meaningful for the person feeling it.

You are mistaking the word "compassion" with the act of kindness or mercy or any other "act" that follows the feeling of compassion.

While kindness and mercy are acts that are visible to others, Love and compassion are feelings that cannot be seen.


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Tue 12/23/08 10:29 AM





A person can feel compassionate about the woes of humanity without acting it.


"jennieBean" that feeling may be the end results of eating a bad burrito...

let's say you are compassionate and didn't act on it ...explain how it would be meaningful to anyone besides yourself



It wouldn't.

Nothing has meaning except for what an individual gives it.


so if it's not meaningful to anyone besides yourself ...then how is it compassion



The ability to feel compassion and/or love can only be meaningful for the person feeling it.

You are mistaking the word "compassion" with the act of kindness or mercy or any other "act" that follows the feeling of compassion.

While kindness and mercy are acts that are visible to others, Love and compassion are feelings that cannot be seen.


"JennieBean"...if these acts cannot be seen then why do there exist the phrases an act of compassion or an act of love which is no different than an act of mercy or an act of kindness

compassion as any feeling exist as nothing more than a passing thought ....unless your "Will" change it into an action

just don't said it ...show it

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Tue 12/23/08 10:43 AM






A person can feel compassionate about the woes of humanity without acting it.


"jennieBean" that feeling may be the end results of eating a bad burrito...

let's say you are compassionate and didn't act on it ...explain how it would be meaningful to anyone besides yourself



It wouldn't.

Nothing has meaning except for what an individual gives it.


so if it's not meaningful to anyone besides yourself ...then how is it compassion



The ability to feel compassion and/or love can only be meaningful for the person feeling it.

You are mistaking the word "compassion" with the act of kindness or mercy or any other "act" that follows the feeling of compassion.

While kindness and mercy are acts that are visible to others, Love and compassion are feelings that cannot be seen.


"JennieBean"...if these acts cannot be seen then why do there exist the phrases an act of compassion or an act of love which is no different than an act of mercy or an act of kindness

compassion as any feeling exist as nothing more than a passing thought ....unless your "Will" change it into an action

just don't said it ...show it




Showing it is nice. But you have to feel it first.

You don't feel mercy or kindness. These are words that describe an act.

Compassion describes a feeling. It is just semantics.

Love and compassion are feelings. Mercy and kindness are acts.


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Tue 12/23/08 11:44 AM

Showing it is nice. But you have to feel it first.


"JennieBean" .....can you explain why?





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Tue 12/23/08 12:03 PM


Showing it is nice. But you have to feel it first.


"JennieBean" .....can you explain why?





Because it is a feeling. Feelings must be felt.

You can pretend you have compassion and you can pretend you love someone but if you don't feel it then you are just being a phony.


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Tue 12/23/08 12:39 PM

Because it is a feeling. Feelings must be felt.

You can pretend you have compassion and you can pretend you love someone but if you don't feel it then you are just being a phony.


"JennieBean" so if you had no feeling of compassion but still performed an act of compassion ...you are a phoney?

and the person that claim to have feelings of compassion but doesn't act on it is being true?


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Tue 12/23/08 12:44 PM


Because it is a feeling. Feelings must be felt.

You can pretend you have compassion and you can pretend you love someone but if you don't feel it then you are just being a phony.


"JennieBean" so if you had no feeling of compassion but still performed an act of compassion ...you are a phoney?

and the person that claim to have feelings of compassion but doesn't act on it is being true?





If you performed what was perceived as an act of compassion by someone who was watching, and yet you did not actually feel any compassion while doing it, then you are not actually performing an act of compassion, you are simply acting. You obviously have some other motive besides compassion.

If I claim to love someone or to have compassion for someone you can believe it no matter what you see me doing, because I would not lie about that. I also don't feel I need to prove it to you.




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Tue 12/23/08 02:44 PM

If I claim to love someone or to have compassion for someone you can believe it no matter what you see me doing, because I would not lie about that. I also don't feel I need to prove it to you.


"JennieBean".. people lie about being in love all the time ....also Love is more of a committment than a feeling which means you may not be in Love you may be in "like" or in "lust" or just "Content" with the person ...

also if someone is compassionate and keeps it to theirself then there is no problem

but once someone claim to be in a state of compassion and doesn't act on it then they become self absorb ..because it's no reason to mention it unless to brag about oneself

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Tue 12/23/08 03:43 PM
happiness is subverted when there is anything but acceptance of all natural response from all others......

the human brain is like a bubble in a level.....

if there is willed conscious effort to anything as more good, or more useful, or as better, the bubble slides to the OPPOSITE side that was wished.......

the only way to hurdle any obstacle, is to NOT see it as evil, or bad, as the whole solution, is half bad, and half good, together as ONE.......

what is true love, that does not see it is ALL human emotions as good, and needed for perfect human operation and learning.....

night cannot exit without day, cold without hot, winter without summer, but one that seeks only good, as all that is good, is like a heat seeking missle unto all things least wished......

if there is willed intent to lead others to only good, the interpretations of truthful words become as cursed, as such only leads to lack of confidence in anything, as self believes it is more defective, which each mortal already fear from birth, which can only lead to self failure, which lead to self pain, which in time lead to the wish of others to feel the pain fo self.....

there is no more greater malicious evil possible, than one that wishes others to feel it's own pain.......

seeing only the GOOD HALF of human emotions as good, leads to misery, with deception that if any bestow thoughts or feelings or words, of the other BAD HALF of all emotions, they do not love us......

it is no wonder the world cannot find peace, since we have hypothetically, made HALF of all words, half of all feelings, half of all human nature, as evil, and all such things are needed to describe our true feelings, and since these are taught to be as evil, they are then repressed, and since not allowed to be freed, released from the body thru the mouth, they are left inside to grow, and create the only evil that exists......

to that can embrace each others hate for each other, have now learned to create true love.............

to think any part of human nature is evil, create a hatred for human nature, that cannot know any love........










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Tue 12/23/08 04:03 PM


If I claim to love someone or to have compassion for someone you can believe it no matter what you see me doing, because I would not lie about that. I also don't feel I need to prove it to you.


"JennieBean".. people lie about being in love all the time ....also Love is more of a committment than a feeling which means you may not be in Love you may be in "like" or in "lust" or just "Content" with the person ...

also if someone is compassionate and keeps it to theirself then there is no problem

but once someone claim to be in a state of compassion and doesn't act on it then they become self absorb ..because it's no reason to mention it unless to brag about oneself



I don't lie about loving someone.

"Being IN LOVE" (Romantic love) is not love at all, it is infatuation or lust, and temporary at best.

Marriage is a commitment, but divine love is not.

There is only one kind of real love and that is divine love.

Romantic love is just a mutual admiration society.

I guess men who believe that love is a commitment are the ones who are afraid to say I love you because to them it means they have to commit their whole lives to that person. That's silly. They are afraid of love because they think is means commitment.





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Tue 12/23/08 07:09 PM
Edited by Krimsa on Tue 12/23/08 07:27 PM
As human beings we all want to be happy and free from misery.


I cant agree with this statment entirely. Sometimes I enjoy wallowing in my own misery. In fact, it makes every moment that I am not miserable that much more pleasurable and significant. You can not know true fulfillment, if you do not have an understanding of despair or pain.

Happy people usually bore the crap out of me and are somewhat un engaging.

Same with those that constantly seek to avoid confrontation or attempt to make everyone happy..

Blah.

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Tue 12/23/08 10:37 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 12/23/08 10:42 PM

As human beings we all want to be happy and free from misery.


I cant agree with this statment entirely. Sometimes I enjoy wallowing in my own misery. In fact, it makes every moment that I am not miserable that much more pleasurable and significant. You can not know true fulfillment, if you do not have an understanding of despair or pain.

Happy people usually bore the crap out of me and are somewhat un engaging.





I'm with you. Today I had a perfectly miserable day and I enjoyed the hell out of griping about it. Its true that if we did not have bad days we would not appreciate the good ones. Imagine a perfect world. Nice place to visit but I wouldn't want to live there for eternity. No challenges.

Same with those that constantly seek to avoid confrontation or attempt to make everyone happy..

Blah.



laugh laugh laugh

Yeh, the whimps. Some people will let others walk all over them just to avoid a little conflict. I don't get that.

Yet that same whimpy person will tear you a new ass hole if you try to do harm to her children. laugh


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Wed 12/24/08 02:45 AM
Edited by Krimsa on Wed 12/24/08 02:46 AM
Well generally I dont go around trying to attack people's kids so I woudnt know. A "wimp" I will define as a "people pleaser" That designation of individual will bother me to the point that I will ignore them.

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Wed 12/24/08 08:24 AM

I don't lie about loving someone.


"JennieBean" ...can you prove that statement ..

but if I know my "JennieBean" your response will be .. "Well I don't have to prove it" ...

and when it comes to compassion ..why make a claim of being compassinate but yet lack the compassion to act on it