Why are gays so upset about Rick Warren and Obama..

Pastor Rick Warren released this statement in response to the anger expressed by the gay community and Obamas invitation to offer the invocation at the inaugral ceremony:

Warrens statement:

“I commend President-elect Obama for his courage to willingly take enormous heat from his base by inviting someone like me, with whom he doesn’t agree on every issue, to offer the Invocation at his historic Inaugural ceremony.

Hopefully individuals passionately expressing opinions from the left and the right will recognize that both of us have shown a commitment to model civility in America.



OPEN LETTER TO THE GAY COMMUNITY:

Come on gay folks, who else should represent the whole of america but Big Rick. Can't you see how wonderful this man is? He's for all human beings. He even has gay friends... Now if he can hang out with what he considers freaks, why can't you cut him some slack? That's reasonable isn't it?

This really is no big deal you know, 3 minutes and the pain will be over. Forget the lasting mental impression of his comparison of your lifestyle. What the heck are you so upset about?

Don't worry that Rick Warren compares gay marriage with condoning sex with your siblings and the neighbors kids and your one eyed poodle.

Why would you be upset by that for pete sakes. Get a grip, no reason to be insulted by Obama's choice, you know Obama is a fierce advocate for the gay and lesbian community, he's just showing you how much thought went into this.

He just wants everyone to know 'how much' of an advocate his really is and to be sure that he makes those folks that think you're a freak content with his willingness to work with both sides. You know, the Good side and the Bad side.. You didn't really think he would choose the side with the fewest members did ya? Really?.

Now come on, if he chose a 'gay bishop' to give the invocation, the Christian right wouldn't behave like this would they? They wouldn't boycott.. they wouldn't protest, yell and scream and act like idiots now would they?

So please, try acting more in line with the conservative Christians, will ya? I know you don't have mega church bucks to overturn what Warren helped to pass, but think of it this way, it makes the Right happy, don't cha wanna see the Right happy?

So see, all is going as planned. Appeasement is cool and progressive. Just keep the Right happy and everything will fall in place.

Things won't 'change' but you didn't really think they would for gays did you?

Silly kids, thinking your vote mattered, you really are naive....

Well, gotta go, having an early afternoon date with a poodle.

What post will Rick Warren be in?

OBAMA WILL BEND OVER.........

How do you know? Did you instruct him? Ugh!

Boo,

What position will be that Pastor be in? What role does it involve?

he will be giving the invocation at the inauguration...he was the pastor who hosted the forum at Saddleback in August...

who gives a chit we are screwed anyway

Other than giving the invocation, I have no idea. Would love to have been in the room when it was decided though. Obama is a newbie at all this to some degree and in between a rock and a hard place, so I am not all that sure if this isn't just a political move he had no reall choice but to make.

Who knows, but I was so so so excited for him and his family, but today something is lost. Only the gay community would understand that feeling right now.

I won't be out shouting but I have to hand it to those who have the courage to waste their time fighting as they have for so long.

NO THE ALIEN
FROM A UFO DID FROM HIS HOME PLANET......

I'm going to look into this more, Boo. I've got some research to do now.

Is it usually a Pastor that gives the invocation?

HES GOING TO BE THROWING SHOES,,,THAT WILL SHOW THE GAYS..........

Honestly I don't care for Warren at all but that's no surprise.

I think this was a good choice by Obama. It says he will listen to and include all voices not just those that agree with him.

The Bush administration surrounded itself with voices that agreed with him. Look where that got us.

The United States is a country with diverse opinions and values and the choice of Warren reflects that.

Political correctness from the left is as dangerous as anything the neocons have done in the past ten years.

You know I would have agreed with you on that absolutely, if it had not been for Warren's views on gays, and the fact that those views are so insulting and disgusting.

Warren is not the only one he could have chosen for this spot, surely. But I do get what you are saying, I just don't think Obama thought this one out well but then at the same time, did i expect him to have thought of the downside when he himself is not gay.

So there is a part of me willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and another side of me thinking dang you could have done so much better.

Either way I was never under any illusion that this or any other president would keep their promises when it comes to the gay community. Clinton still fresh in mind..

Anyway not being one to have any real expectations when it comes to gay issues, I am not as hurt as others might be.

Boo,

I still need to learn more about this. I don't know the people that Obama's been picking.

I do see that it's a variety of people though. He's named Republicans, Democrats, Hispanics, Women, and now this guy. I'm wondering if he is just hitting all of the demographics.

But..I still need to look into it more.

I voted for Clinton and never watch the inagural, so I have no clue what the the pastor does. I do know that Obama is playing to those in the base that supported him, that's no suprise to me. There are probably advantages to this move that I am unaware of, and frankly I am not sure I care. I am used to promises being broken and politians using gays for their body count.

Both sides use us for opposite reasons, it's unfortunate but not suprising. I have already lived the bulk of my life with out any thing from the other side, and I can live the rest of it with out any thing from the other side.

I stand with those young people today that now have to fight a more powerful Right than others did before them, but I see young people today are stronger and more involved in ways we were not.

If this thing is won it will be this generation and the next that win it and the fact that gays today aren't going to hide from this or give up the fight.

Oh I see what he is doing and before this pick I was all in favor of it, infact I still am in favor of it, but I think we would have been wuss's not to have brought up the glaring insult to the gay community. No, one doesn't have to get violent about it, but I don't blame the community for being angry.

You call me a pedifile or insest because I am gay? That can't go unchallenged. Period.

Okay, your last sentence tells me more about what I missed when reading it the first time. That is so not good that the man said that. I do wonder if any fundamentalist would be any better though. And it looks like he's hitting the demographics. Btw, I don't like any hard core fundamentalist doing anything pertaining to that level of government.

On your previous post to me you mentioned a broken promise.
I either missed it or have forgotten it. What promise?

I'm just questioning to understand and learn, Boo.

Being Christian, Obama will not be entirely favorable to the gay community but he is very open in this area compared to many of his compatriots. I would prefer no religious rhetoric at his inauguration myself but hey, I will not nick pick the small stuff.

winx the promise of equality. But remember again, I am under no illusions here. I researched Obama with a critical eye, I didn't fawn over him as some accuse us liberals of doing. I never thought he was incapable of being the politian we all are familiar with but I did feel something about him that gave me hope that he might be different and I went with my gut after paying as close attention as I could.

I too would like to see no religious stuff at the inagural, but heaven forbid we not have the whole showy event, which I find personally excessive, but again, who am I.

If I had been elected I would have said just swear me in, we have work to do. I'm a doer, it needs doing, it's been discussed and hammered out on both sides. Good, now let's do it. No parties no fan fare, just do it.

You cannot open a dialogue about change if you don't first listen....even to people you disagree with.

I also find Warren's position on homosexuality and gay marriage small minded and unacceptable. However, Warren is not alone. He represents a large number of Americans who feel the same way.

Ignoring that gets us no where.

You cannot institute real change in the US or anywhere without first acknowledging divergent opinions and assessing the merits of these positions and analyzing the possible affects of change on the country.