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Topic: I CAN - Written by your jester Smiless
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Thu 12/18/08 06:12 PM

Yeah thats because they are all closet Pagans. laugh


More than they know.

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Thu 12/18/08 06:19 PM
I canlaugh drinker

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Thu 12/18/08 06:25 PM

Catholics as individuals don't tend to proselytize the way non-Catholic Christians do.


I think Catholics tend to view that as the job of the cergy.

When protestants protested against the pope being the central authority all they truly did was rebell with the intent of becoming individual popes in their own right.

So with that comes the responsibility of proselytizing.

Protestants just think they are all popes. :laughs:

Well I'm sure that's not true of every individual, but it's certainly true of many individuals.

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Thu 12/18/08 06:33 PM

I can laugh drinker


Well, clearly you can see that I can't. laugh

I believe in taking a stand over being passively polite.

Some things are worth standing up for (or against) whichever the case may be.

If we were always passively polite we'd be worshiping Hitler today (or his son).



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Thu 12/18/08 07:19 PM


I can laugh drinker


Well, clearly you can see that I can't. laugh

I believe in taking a stand over being passively polite.

Some things are worth standing up for (or against) whichever the case may be.

If we were always passively polite we'd be worshiping Hitler today (or his son).





I am sure you know my position on religion, but I can respect those who believe in a religion that works best for them as long as they don't harm others in the process. If they want to believe Christ is their savior even if it isn't true then let it be for they feel most comfortable with it. Why argue with them about it. It is like telling a child to not eat chocolate ice cream anymore and you are trying to take it away from him to give strawberry ice cream instead. They love that flavor only. He is not harming anyone when eating his ice cream, so let him be.

History as shown many atrocities in every religious aspect. There have been wars contributed not only by the Christians themselves, although I must admit that many humans have used Christianity to influence the masses to do bad biddings. One doesn't have to go down a list of wars on religion. I have done that once before here.

Now you maybe right about Christians having created the biggest wars in the world, but they haven't been the only ones to have created them. There are many other religious belief systems that have created wars and many leaders who belief in nothing that have created atrocities for superstitions beliefs.



I for one have met many Christians who are very peaceful. They wouldn't hurt a fly and I have met some aggressive pushy Christians who are quiet the opposite, but I can say that for every religion also. Each individual is different.

I believe problems can be resolved peacefully without aggression. There are unfortunately not many who know how to do this. Such people as you know include Martin Luther King Jr. who did believe in the bible and he truly did his best to eliminate racism, prejudice, and hatred for not only black people, but also for whites.

Other examples would be Mandela and Mahatma Ghandi to name a few. Every year a noble peace prize winner gets a award for contributing peace or at least have tried to. I think we as a people can truly get along regardless of religous affiliate even the one you despice so much James.


Now think about how they negotiated to make peace with those who truly don't have the same idealogy as they do? How did they convince what could have been easier to make as a enemy into someone that will shake your hand.

I challenge you James to figure out a way to convince a believer what he or she is practicing is wrong without resorting to a violent disagreement on the forums. Is it possible?

Just a minute ago I was bashed by spidercrmb that my post is insulting, shameful, and stupid. Now go to that post and look how I answered this. You will see that is how a Humantarian works and that is how PeaceKeepers who get little recognition in this world create more peace then you will ever know.

I hope you are not taking this post as a insult for I am only wishing you the best.

Your passively polite friend and jester Johndrinker


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Thu 12/18/08 07:25 PM
Yes We Can. tongue2

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Thu 12/18/08 07:52 PM
Just a minute ago I was bashed by spidercrmb that my post is insulting, shameful, and stupid. Now go to that post and look how I answered this. You will see that is how a Humantarian works and that is how PeaceKeepers who get little recognition in this world create more peace then you will ever know.


I read that. flowerforyou

But if you think you’ve made any headway I assure you that you are mistaken.

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Thu 12/18/08 08:01 PM

Just a minute ago I was bashed by spidercrmb that my post is insulting, shameful, and stupid. Now go to that post and look how I answered this. You will see that is how a Humantarian works and that is how PeaceKeepers who get little recognition in this world create more peace then you will ever know.


I read that. flowerforyou

But if you think you’ve made any headway I assure you that you are mistaken.



I will not stay long here on mingle to worry about it anymore.laugh

I have figured out my calling a few weeks ago.

Yet I know little strides can bring huge steps eventually even for those with different idealogies. In time when people get older one realizes that we as a human are not so much different afterall and can only laugh at our stupidity at times.

I know we all have different personalities and idealogies and think processes and educational backgrounds, but in the end we are one.

There will always be a person who will disagree. I think it is human nature for some reason and of course in time many don't learn much and stay the same.

I can only hope that we can just emphasize the importance of peace for that is the biggest role any human being can preach. The study of peace is much more important then the study of religion. Trust me on this one:smile:

My peace proposal is in my profile. One who actually does it can make a difference in someones life. Just this week a woman said to me, I changed her view of life after reading my peace proposal. She has a renewed sense of energy and it had nothing to do with religion or spirituality. It had everything to do with understanding the importance of peace.

I hope a few more will read it and really try their best to practice preaching the agenda of peace.


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Thu 12/18/08 08:17 PM

I can only hope that we can just emphasize the importance of peace for that is the biggest role any human being can preach. The study of peace is much more important then the study of religion. Trust me on this one:smile:

My peace proposal is in my profile. One who actually does it can make a difference in someones life. Just this week a woman said to me, I changed her view of life after reading my peace proposal. She has a renewed sense of energy and it had nothing to do with religion or spirituality. It had everything to do with understanding the importance of peace.

I hope a few more will read it and really try their best to practice preaching the agenda of peace.


That is truly commendable John.

I admire you for your intent. You are more like Jesus than the people who proselytize his name.

And you are certainly right to bring only peace into your own life and those around you.

May you have the most peaceful life possible John.

I wish you the very best that life has to offer. flowerforyou

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Thu 12/18/08 08:24 PM


I can only hope that we can just emphasize the importance of peace for that is the biggest role any human being can preach. The study of peace is much more important then the study of religion. Trust me on this one:smile:

My peace proposal is in my profile. One who actually does it can make a difference in someones life. Just this week a woman said to me, I changed her view of life after reading my peace proposal. She has a renewed sense of energy and it had nothing to do with religion or spirituality. It had everything to do with understanding the importance of peace.

I hope a few more will read it and really try their best to practice preaching the agenda of peace.


That is truly commendable John.

I admire you for your intent. You are more like Jesus than the people who proselytize his name.

And you are certainly right to bring only peace into your own life and those around you.

May you have the most peaceful life possible John.

I wish you the very best that life has to offer. flowerforyou


Stop being so passively polite. It is unlike youlaugh

Just joking and thank you for the kind compliment. It will always be cherished in my mind for as long as I still have itlaugh

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Fri 12/19/08 05:33 AM
I still can! Can youflowers

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Fri 12/19/08 05:45 AM
Edited by Krimsa on Fri 12/19/08 05:48 AM
Abracadabra said:

Well, clearly you can see that I can't.

I believe in taking a stand over being passively polite.

Some things are worth standing up for (or against) whichever the case may be.

If we were always passively polite we'd be worshiping Hitler today (or his son).


Very true words uttered here. I respect James for having the courage to speak with such intellect and integrity. Sometimes these things just need to be said.

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