It's my opinion that there are no New Yorkers left in New York. At least in the Manhattan and parts of Bklyn. Anyone else peeved by it?

Discuss, talk amongst yourselves (out loud that is).

Does this include those from other countries or just those of us from other cities that actually pay taxes? I moved here 6 years ago from Syracuse so technically I guess I'm a NYer just from the artic section. I just don't tawk like dis, aye 'ow ya doin'?

New York City is not called the "melting pot" for nothing. This city brings hope to many that emigrate here. Whether its from another country or a different part of the U.S. I am a transplant (recently) from Rochester so I guess I am a true New Yorker but the point I am trying to make is it takes all kinds to make the world or city go round. The types of different people in New York is what makes this city so great! In my humble opinion of course.

Yeah...there are those who live in Manhattan and those who dont. Those who dont live in Manhattan survive day by day and constitute the transient cheap labor for the big companies and the no so big companies. Most people will return to their places or move to less expensive areas at some point where they will have some room to save money and send their children to school paying less taxes. Rent in NY is really expensive. The real investment return comes from owning an apartment in NY and renting it to an outsider. However, some people make it in NY. NY is a melting pot. That is very true.

Nevertheless, nothing is written on stone and less in NY. If you open your own business in NY and succeed, you can consider yourself a success.

NY is not real america. Real america is found in the interior.

Surprisingly enough, NY was always like that.

So...pick your side.

Hm, you make a good point, warfield.

About *real America*, though, I'm not sure I understand. Do you mean to say that the people in NYC do not live like most of the people in America live, and thus New York isn't *real America*? If that's what you mean, then you're very right.

But many countries have the majority of the population living outside the big cities. So, by your logic, London is not *real* England, Stockholm is not *real* Sweden, etc. The question of what defines a country, what makes up the *real* part of a country, is a shallow question at best.

Europe has very little mobility in their population. USA is the most dynamic country in the world. Traditional long time american values are more settle down in the interior of the country because maybe they tend to see less population traffic. On the other hand, new trends and innovation come from the east and the west coasts of US major cities. People is willing to risk and experiment with change. I might be wrong but...

Then I guess "real America" is actually the big cities like New York, Boston, etc., and "real American" values are ones that are ever changing.

What's more, the "not-so American" values are the ones that have been around for too long, in other words, the ones that have settled into the interiors.

I didn't say it, you did. ;-)

And it makes sense, doesn't it? America, the melting-pot. America, the land of innovation!