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Topic: Many believe that there is
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Fri 12/05/08 09:18 AM
only one creator(God) that started everything. Do you think it is possible that perhaps there were many creators (Gods) that created everything we know?

What are your thoughts on this?

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Fri 12/05/08 09:21 AM
Nope.....only one God in my Bible

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Fri 12/05/08 09:24 AM
In Greek mythology there were many gods, though I have to agree with sweetnsassyntall on this one:angel:

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Fri 12/05/08 09:28 AM
you do understand you are asking a question
that cannot be answered ?

the "experts" can only give you their opinion.

no matter who they are, it is only opinion.




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Fri 12/05/08 09:33 AM

you do understand you are asking a question
that cannot be answered ?

the "experts" can only give you their opinion.

no matter who they are, it is only opinion.






Yes I do understand this, yet I always fascinate myself with the answers I receive. :smile:

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Fri 12/05/08 09:41 AM
I favor a sort of "egalitarian pantheism" where each one of us is a god and all creation is the joint effort of all of us. This is not the "we are all one" pantheism though. I believe that we are each separate, individual, whole selves not just "pieces of a single whole".

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Fri 12/05/08 09:43 AM

In Greek mythology there were many gods, though I have to agree with sweetnsassyntall on this one:angel:
hence the word "mythology"

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Fri 12/05/08 09:48 AM


In Greek mythology there were many gods, though I have to agree with sweetnsassyntall on this one:angel:
hence the word "mythology"


yet mythology was at one time a religion that was taking seriously at its time. It is perhaps they became a mythology for they have lost their empires at the time to discontinue their belief system. What are your thoughts on this?

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Fri 12/05/08 09:49 AM

I favor a sort of "egalitarian pantheism" where each one of us is a god and all creation is the joint effort of all of us. This is not the "we are all one" pantheism though. I believe that we are each separate, individual, whole selves not just "pieces of a single whole".


I can see how that can bother a monotheistic belief system. I say if it works best for you then that is all that countsdrinker

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Fri 12/05/08 09:50 AM
what I believe,

That God is like the sun

You can't look at the sun. It's too bright
But if you look in any old mud puddle you can see a reflection of the sun

Religions are like a mud puddle. They all show a reflection

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Fri 12/05/08 10:07 AM

what I believe,

That God is like the sun

You can't look at the sun. It's too bright
But if you look in any old mud puddle you can see a reflection of the sun

Religions are like a mud puddle. They all show a reflection


If that works best for you then I say go for it! In the long run you have to feel good in what you believe in. I say cheers to thatdrinker

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Fri 12/05/08 10:27 AM
Edited by Maikuru on Fri 12/05/08 10:29 AM
Who or what said that there had to be a creator or creators? Why do we constantly try to give a form of personality, an ego or human like quality to something in order to give ourselves a sense of security that this is all planned out and everything is really under someone else's control? What is wrong with accepting that there is choas in the universe? Does everything need a reason or plan? When do we realize that the plan maybe is that there is no plan? My parents came to me when i was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes because it was part of "God's" plan. My father even tryed to convince me that "God" was punishing me for something i had done or would later do. It didn't take me long to realize that was a load of bull. I personally don't need some form of reassurance to convince myself that things are under control. I find more peace in accepting who and what i am is not because of somebody's grand scheme but because it just is. I can handle that and that is all i need to deal with what i can not explain or understand completely. Let me put it another way. Stories seem to work best so i will go that route. There once was a zen master who was preparing to pass on. He looked through his pupils to see who was best suited to take his place as head of the temple. He narrowed his options down to two. One was a very bright and intelligent leader. The other was a devoted monk of many years and acted as the temple's cook. The master decided to test them with a simple koan to determine who would succeed him. He has them bring a table in and place a glass half filled with water on it. He then had them enter individually to test them. He had the intelligent leader come in first. He pointed at the glass and said what is this? The pupil took a few minutes to ponder the koan. He then turned to the master and said," It is that which is before us in this existence and we must acknowledge it and try to understand it." The master released him and had the cook come in. He then posed the same koan to him. The cook looked at the glass only a second. He then grasped it, drank the water and threw the glass out of the temple. As he turned to leave he told the master," That is it." and left. Now i leave you all with a koan of your own. Who did the master choose to succed him and why?:wink:

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Fri 12/05/08 11:05 AM
Edited by smiless on Fri 12/05/08 11:06 AM
Yes the majority of the people in the world still believe in somekind of deity. Either one deity or many.

Some believe in the force! Just ask Yoda. Afterall that idealogy comes from George Lukas who is a Buddhist.

I would say that just pure energy is a possiblity that we cannot explain as a possiblity of what started everything.

There are so many possiblities of what had created life or the universe.

Big Bang Theory

Energy

Some even believe a higher intelligence existed. Look at Sumerian Mythology, the God Enki, their stone tablets showing 12 planets in our system of one called Nibirus that has been destroyed the reason why we have that asteroid field just beyond Mars.

and so many more ideas of how it all started. I mean there are over 2000 religions I heard. Of course only a handful really dominate the planet.

It is your choice what you want to believe. In the long run you feel good about it to enjoy life. drinker


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Fri 12/05/08 11:32 AM
Your right smiless ultimately everyone has to choose what works best for them and that's just how it works out. It's kinda like how the waitress asks everybody at the waffle house how they want their eggs done. Only difference is last i checked no one has ever started a holy war over one person liking their's sunny side up and the other person wanting their's scrambled. Its all the same in the end when you think about though. It's just eggs...lol:tongue:

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Fri 12/05/08 11:39 AM

Your right smiless ultimately everyone has to choose what works best for them and that's just how it works out. It's kinda like how the waitress asks everybody at the waffle house how they want their eggs done. Only difference is last i checked no one has ever started a holy war over one person liking their's sunny side up and the other person wanting their's scrambled. Its all the same in the end when you think about though. It's just eggs...lol:tongue:


I couldn't have written it any better and I like my eggs scrambled because I am such a nutcaselaugh

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Fri 12/05/08 12:51 PM
i was going to reply to this, but is sort of like asking
a car racer which oil is best,,,


it just opens a can of worms that i find to be a waste of time.


just run what you like best. :)


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Fri 12/05/08 12:52 PM

i was going to reply to this, but is sort of like asking
a car racer which oil is best,,,


it just opens a can of worms that i find to be a waste of time.


just run what you like best. :)




drinker

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Fri 12/05/08 02:22 PM
Occam's Razor. We need a god to be the first cause, but more than one god is multiplying entities, which is warned against by Occam's Razor.

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Fri 12/05/08 03:37 PM
Edited by Abracadabra on Fri 12/05/08 03:48 PM

Occam's Razor. We need a god to be the first cause, but more than one god is multiplying entities, which is warned against by Occam's Razor.


Sounds like you worship Occam. bigsmile

The bottom line is that if one God can exist, then why not two? Why not infinitely many?

Why would their only be one God? And what gave rise to it? What was it's 'first cause'?

As soon as you try to bring logic into spiritual questions you lose, because whatever spirit is, it necessarily must be beyond logic.

If there is only one God, and God is all there is, then we must be God.

That's logical. flowerforyou


I mean, if you want to apply logic, the statement I just gave is certainly logical. I don't see how you could find fault with it.

To have that one God creating somehting 'other' than itself would go against Occam's razor. It would be more complicated than necessary. bigsmile

So if we appeal to Occam's razor then Pantheism wins the day. It's the simplest explantion: There is only one God and we are it.

Eastern Mystics must have been thinking like Occam. :wink:

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Fri 12/05/08 03:57 PM



In Greek mythology there were many gods, though I have to agree with sweetnsassyntall on this one:angel:
hence the word "mythology"


yet mythology was at one time a religion that was taking seriously at its time. It is perhaps they became a mythology for they have lost their empires at the time to discontinue their belief system. What are your thoughts on this?
hence the words "at its time"

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