Topic: Gender gap?
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Tue 12/02/08 08:00 AM
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=D3462CE9-1B6E-42C0-9F73-FE8E77942082

But Obama’s assertion—and society’s belief—that women are underpaid by American employers in comparison to men is demonstrably untrue. As longtime employment lawyer Warren Farrell, who served as a board member of the National Organization for Women from 1970 to 1973, explains in his book Why Men Earn More, the gender “pay gap” is not a result of gender bias or of workplace discrimination. It can be explained entirely by the fact that women as a group tend, to a much greater degree than men, to make certain employment choices which, even while suppressing incomes, afford certain lifestyle benefits that women value highly.


This has been a well documented fact for over 20 years.

1) Women don't like to commute.
2) Women don't like to move for their job.
3) Fewer women take jobs to build wealth, in favor of choosing a job that is socially useful.
4) The average woman works 5 to 9 years less than the average man.
5) Women and Men in the same position, doing the same work, while having the same education and work experience make the same amount of money.

How about this tidbit from data collected by the Bureau of Labor Statistics...

Never-married white women actually earned 6 percent more than never-married white men a half-century ago.

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Fri 12/05/08 11:13 AM

i think the difference is in the time and energy many women need to devote to being primary caregivers of their children.

the onus of keeping up a house, shopping, cooking, cleaning and still trying to please and "take care of" a male partner also adds significantly to the demands on a woman's time nd energy.


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Fri 12/05/08 12:35 PM
I think there are many rapidly shifting factors that come into play in the gender/pay gap. Maybe too many to ever say definitively this is why it exists.

Just looking at one of your reasons there are some factors you might not have considered. I'll offer one.

1) Women don't like to commute.
Why? Perhaps because women are also many times primarily responsible for transporting their child. Commuting as well places them far from their children and adding miles and drive time to their day. A married man who has a wife who handles this responsibility in the marriage can afford the commute time more easily.

I bet other working women reading this thread can come up with others.


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Fri 12/05/08 01:58 PM
But those are still choices.

If the there is a company an hour away willing to pay more, a woman turns it down, that isn't gender discrimination. So both glynnda and Lynann, your arguments are without merit. The point is that there is no gender gap, the apparent gap is due to choices made by the women.

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Sat 12/06/08 01:21 PM

well, you better be glad that women have made the choices to have children (when, indeed, the conception has been by choice)......so the earth has been populated since time began. bigsmile

oh, and speaking of that.......do you ever say "thanks" to your mother? :wink:

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Sat 12/06/08 02:25 PM
i do know lots of women that commute. I mysef used to do an hour one way commute. and I know some women that commute anywhere between 2-4 hours.

its cuz the better paying jobs are in the city. and well we will do what we need to do to take care of our children.

i think men and womens are equals in the workforce right now. If not women being natural multitaskers and more skilled becasue of this.