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Topic: read the section between the lines...from the US Constitutio
lovemeifyoucan26's photo
Mon 12/01/08 04:59 AM

The Constitution is not a prefect instrument but the thought of people rewriting it at this point in our history scares me.

Ignorance, pandering, a lack of knowledge of our countries or the worlds history, pay-offs, corruption, religious zealotry...you see these behaviors and worse, in politicians and citizens alike.

Simply put the people of this country on whole are not fit to rewrite The Constitution.


keep the same one.....just remove the currently existing gov, and start new...

lovemeifyoucan26's photo
Mon 12/01/08 05:00 AM


The Constitution is not a prefect instrument but the thought of people rewriting it at this point in our history scares me.

Ignorance, pandering, a lack of knowledge of our countries or the worlds history, pay-offs, corruption, religious zealotry...you see these behaviors and worse, in politicians and citizens alike.

Simply put the people of this country on whole are not fit to rewrite The Constitution.


I would like to see an amendment stablishing a fourth branch of government. The Audit branch. Whose whole purpose would be to audit all government activities and programs. Their mission would be to see that every penny of tax payer money is accounted for with an annual report to the taxpayers


damn right...

RenoirGarland's photo
Mon 12/01/08 06:12 AM
What is LOST in those words????

WE AS A PEOPLE!!

To become PART of the United States of America you should believe in our HISTORY, AND LIVE IT!!

JUST like a MARINE. When you dawn the military uniform of a US Marine, Navy, Army, Air Force. You represent ALL that have passed before you. You invoke their spirit into your body. You represent all that was and all that will be.

People today in this country do not want to INDOCTRINATE themselves mind and body to this Nation. They want to live here but have separate lives and histories! TOTALLY B....

I don't care if they believe in God or not. BUT they have the DUTY BOUND oath to protect the lively-hood of every man, woman, and child in this country. What does that mean? It means to NOT push their UN-NATIONALISTIC VIEWS upon my being. The founding fathers wanted PATRIOTS. To protect the way of life for United States Citizens. Not to DISTANCE ourselves from one another! NOT to say, "You CAN NOT HAVE Christmas because I don't believe in it!" NOT to say, "You can not have Kwanza!"

This C___ of "NO Christmas trees or Baby Jesus, or 10 commandments, you cant have that!! " Sickens me to no end. People, believe it or NOT. Those SAME Christians are the people that gave the rights to Women to VOTE, Gave EQUAL rights to Blacks, Spanish, Indians, etc.. Gave Muslims, Jews, SATANISTS the right to worship in their homes or churches. They GIVE and all the other side does is WANTS MORE.


We are in a national CRISIS in my estimation. We are pumping gas delivered by people who are buying ARMS and WEAPONS from Russia! And the leaders of those countries hate America! (And the word America is now an UN PC Term, Canadians are Americans to ya know!)

One day people in the United States of America will wake up and say. Heck with it. You don't like it here, you want to be different in beliefs, culture, race. Go somewhere else. And we will kick their bu__s out. Because HERE we are ALL EQUAL. We accept the history of what was past as our own. We left behind our countries of origin to start a new life and live by the laws of the United States. George Washington is part of MY heritage now.




Lynann's photo
Mon 12/01/08 09:27 AM
Here are some great men on the subject of patriotism.

"Our government has kept us in a perpetual state of fear - kept us in a continuous stampede of patriotic fervor - with the cry of grave national emergency. Always there has been some terrible evil at home or some monstrous foreign power that was going to gobble us up if we did not blindly rally behind it."
Gen. Douglas MacArthur, (1880-1964) Supreme Allied Commander, General of the U.S. Army
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"Guard against the postures of pretended patriotism."
George Washington
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"You make men love their government and their country by giving them the kind of
government and the kind of country that inspire respect and love; a country that is free
and unafraid, that lets the discontented talk in order to learn the causes of their
discontent and end those causes, that refuses to impel men to spy on their neighbors,
that protects its citizens vigorously from harmful acts while it leaves the remedies for
objectionable ideas to counter-argument and time."
Zechariah Chafee, Jr. (1865-1957) Source: Free Speech in the United States, 1942
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"Men in authority will always think that criticism of their policies is dangerous. They
will always equate their policies with patriotism, and find criticism subversive."
Henry Steele Commager, (1902-1998) Historian and
author, Source: Freedom and Order, 1966
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"He is a poor patriot whose patriotism does not enable him to understand how all men everywhere feel about their altars and their hearthstones, their flag and their fatherland."
Harry Emerson Fos****
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"A politician will do anything to keep his job -- even become a patriot."
William Randolph Hearst
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"Love your country, but never trust its government."
Robert Heinlein
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"Samuel Johnson's saying that patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels has some truth in it but not nearly enough. Patriotism, in truth, is the great nursery of scoundrels, and its annual output is probably greater than that of even religion. Its chief glories are the demagogue, the military bully, and the spreaders of libels and false history. Its philosophy rests firmly on the doctrine that the end justifies the means--that any blow, whether above or below the belt, is fair against dissenters from its wholesale denial of plain facts."
H.L. Mencken
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"During times of war, hatred becomes quite respectable even though it has to masquerade
often under the guise of patriotism."
Howard Thurman
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"A man can be a Christian or a patriot, but he can't legally be a Christian and a patriot--except in the usual way: one of the two with the mouth, the other with the heart. The spirit of Christianity proclaims the brotherhood of the race and the meaning of that strong word has not been left to guesswork, but made tremendously definite- the Christian must forgive his brother man all crimes he can imagine and commit, and all insults he can conceive and utter- forgive these injuries how many times?--seventy times seven--another way of saying there shall be no limit to this forgiveness. That is the spirit and the law of Christianity. Well--Patriotism has its laws. And it also is a perfectly definite one, there are not vaguenesses about it. It commands that the brother over the border shall be sharply watched and brought to book every time he does us a hurt or offends us with an insult. Word it as softly as you please, the spirit of patriotism is the spirit of the dog and wolf. The moment there is a misunderstanding about a boundary line or a hamper of fish or some other squalid matter, see patriotism rise, and hear him split the universe with is war-whoop. The spirit of patriotism being in its nature jealous and selfish, is just in man's line, it comes natural to him- he can live up to all its requirements to the letter; but the spirit of Christianity is not in its entirety possible to him.
The prayers concealed in what I have been saying is, not that patriotism should cease and not that the talk about universal brotherhood should cease, but that the incongruous firm be dissolved and each limb of it be required to transact business by itself, for the future."

Mark Twain, from Mark Twain's Notebook

lovemeifyoucan26's photo
Mon 12/01/08 04:39 PM
At least I am not the only one here ....lol

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