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Legalize weed, and only test for crack, cocaine, heroin, meth, etc... legalize all victimless crimes the money saved plus the tax paid would be enough to cover the 700 billion bailout crap in no time and that after taking 20% for treatment programs |
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Legalize weed, and only test for crack, cocaine, heroin, meth, etc... legalize all victimless crimes the money saved plus the tax paid would be enough to cover the 700 billion bailout crap in no time and that after taking 20% for treatment programs Amen to that! If only everyone were as smart as you. *sigh* |
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someone sent me this...not a bad idea...if I do say so myself... Like a lot of folks in this state, I have a job. I work, they pay me. I pay my taxes and the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit. In order to get that paycheck, I am required to pass a random urine test with which I have no problem. What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people who don't have to pass a urine test. Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare check because I have to pass one to earn it for them? Please understand, I have no problem with helping people get back on their feet. I do, on the other hand, ! have a problem with helping someone sitting on their ass, doing drugs, while I work. . .Can you imagine how much money the state would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a public assistance check?  Sounds kinda like accusing the poor of a crime. And even if the parents do drugs, the kids will still need to get food from somewhere. And does this mean the rich can do drugs? I can't see the crime angle in this..I think if you had to stay clean to get your money...that's actually a good thing...at what point are parents held accountable for their actions ?...at what point is the call for responsibility required ? |
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People should be tested by how good they do their job rather than by what drugs might be in their system. I smoke, and i really believe it doesnt affect my job in the slightest.
Weed should be viewed differently to other drugs, if only because it stays in your system for so long. It is unfair that someone could have a week off and do loads of cocaine, and then flush it out of their system before they return, But if you have a couple of joints a few weeks earlier you will probably be caught if you are tested. I dont agree people on welfare should be tested either, though i do believe that they should be made to do some kinda work for their money too, as long as they are physically fit to do so. There is plenty of litter to pick up from the streets, grafitti to be painted over, etc etc |
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someone sent me this...not a bad idea...if I do say so myself... Like a lot of folks in this state, I have a job. I work, they pay me. I pay my taxes and the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit. In order to get that paycheck, I am required to pass a random urine test with which I have no problem. What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people who don't have to pass a urine test. Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare check because I have to pass one to earn it for them? Please understand, I have no problem with helping people get back on their feet. I do, on the other hand, ! have a problem with helping someone sitting on their ass, doing drugs, while I work. . .Can you imagine how much money the state would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a public assistance check? Sounds kinda like accusing the poor of a crime. And even if the parents do drugs, the kids will still need to get food from somewhere. And does this mean the rich can do drugs? I can't see the crime angle in this..I think if you had to stay clean to get your money...that's actually a good thing...at what point are parents held accountable for their actions ?...at what point is the call for responsibility required ?  But the children shouldnt be made to suffer for the actions of the parents. And thats what would happen.
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Legalize weed, and only test for crack, cocaine, heroin, meth, etc... legalize all victimless crimes the money saved plus the tax paid would be enough to cover the 700 billion bailout crap in no time and that after taking 20% for treatment programs Amen to that! If only everyone were as smart as you. *sigh* the root of all evil is in the way of this happening the laws prohibiting this are religious based thus establishing the religion in question and the temperance groups were mostly made up of so called christian women but hey what do i know |
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Edited by
Winx
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Sun 11/23/08 06:56 PM
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someone sent me this...not a bad idea...if I do say so myself... Like a lot of folks in this state, I have a job. I work, they pay me. I pay my taxes and the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit. In order to get that paycheck, I am required to pass a random urine test with which I have no problem. What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people who don't have to pass a urine test. Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare check because I have to pass one to earn it for them? Please understand, I have no problem with helping people get back on their feet. I do, on the other hand, ! have a problem with helping someone sitting on their ass, doing drugs, while I work. . .Can you imagine how much money the state would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a public assistance check? Do you have a problem with poor single mothers obtaining help to feed their children? I don't have a problem with people taking urine tests to prove that they're not a danger to the people that they work with, btw. |
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Edited by
adj4u
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Sun 11/23/08 07:41 PM
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someone sent me this...not a bad idea...if I do say so myself... Like a lot of folks in this state, I have a job. I work, they pay me. I pay my taxes and the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit. In order to get that paycheck, I am required to pass a random urine test with which I have no problem. What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people who don't have to pass a urine test. Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare check because I have to pass one to earn it for them? Please understand, I have no problem with helping people get back on their feet. I do, on the other hand, ! have a problem with helping someone sitting on their ass, doing drugs, while I work. . .Can you imagine how much money the state would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a public assistance check? what ever happened to the 5th ammendment anyway violation to drug test before a incident and afterwards as well ------------------------------------------- Amendment 5 - Trial and Punishment, Compensation for Takings. Ratified 12/15/1791. No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation ------------------------------------- nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation ---- yer being forced to be a witness against your self and they confiscate proberty with out compensation as well free country my azz nice color dont ya think |
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someone sent me this...not a bad idea...if I do say so myself... Like a lot of folks in this state, I have a job. I work, they pay me. I pay my taxes and the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit. In order to get that paycheck, I am required to pass a random urine test with which I have no problem. What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people who don't have to pass a urine test. Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare check because I have to pass one to earn it for them? Please understand, I have no problem with helping people get back on their feet. I do, on the other hand, ! have a problem with helping someone sitting on their ass, doing drugs, while I work. . .Can you imagine how much money the state would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a public assistance check? Sounds kinda like accusing the poor of a crime. And even if the parents do drugs, the kids will still need to get food from somewhere. And does this mean the rich can do drugs? I can't see the crime angle in this..I think if you had to stay clean to get your money...that's actually a good thing...at what point are parents held accountable for their actions ?...at what point is the call for responsibility required ? Do you honestly think that would keep somebody clean?  Once they're on drugs, their brain has become wired differently. They don't think rationally. |
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People should be tested by how good they do their job rather than by what drugs might be in their system. I smoke, and i really believe it doesnt affect my job in the slightest. Weed should be viewed differently to other drugs, if only because it stays in your system for so long. It is unfair that someone could have a week off and do loads of cocaine, and then flush it out of their system before they return, But if you have a couple of joints a few weeks earlier you will probably be caught if you are tested. I dont agree people on welfare should be tested either, though i do believe that they should be made to do some kinda work for their money too, as long as they are physically fit to do so. There is plenty of litter to pick up from the streets, grafitti to be painted over, etc etc They do. When a person is on welfare, they must be looking for a job and/or in some kind of educational training. There is also a time limit for welfare. And by people, we are talking about mostly poor, single mothers, btw. |
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People should be tested by how good they do their job rather than by what drugs might be in their system. I smoke, and i really believe it doesnt affect my job in the slightest. Weed should be viewed differently to other drugs, if only because it stays in your system for so long. It is unfair that someone could have a week off and do loads of cocaine, and then flush it out of their system before they return, But if you have a couple of joints a few weeks earlier you will probably be caught if you are tested. I dont agree people on welfare should be tested either, though i do believe that they should be made to do some kinda work for their money too, as long as they are physically fit to do so. There is plenty of litter to pick up from the streets, grafitti to be painted over, etc etc They do. When a person is on welfare, they must be looking for a job and/or in some kind of educational training. There is also a time limit for welfare. And by people, we are talking about mostly poor, single mothers, btw. That is kinda the way the Benefits system works in the UK too i believe. But to be 'looking' for a job, you can just turn up at the job centre once a week for half hour or so. Many people looking arent actually looking at all, they are bone idle layabouts. Many women also have kids just so they can get on the benefits system, which includes getting all their rent paid plus a weekly allowance. But then i wouldnt like things to be made more difficult for single mothers of course, they have it difficult enough as it is. Of course the kids dont deserve to suffer either. But there are a lot of people getting an undeserved free ride out there and its disgusting. I dont know about America, but there are people here that live a pretty reasonable life not working, whereas some people that are working full time but on a lower wage are living below the poverty line. |
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IT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL TO TEST ANYONE IT IS FORCED SELF INCRIMINATION |
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IT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL TO TEST ANYONE IT IS FORCED SELF INCRIMINATION I would want a bus driver, airline pilot, cab driver, miner, heavy equipment operator, over the road truck driver, teachers, and many more to be tested. I want me and my loved ones as safe as they can be. |
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Edited by
adj4u
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Sun 11/23/08 07:31 PM
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IT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL TO TEST ANYONE IT IS FORCED SELF INCRIMINATION I would want a bus driver, airline pilot, cab driver, miner, heavy equipment operator, over the road truck driver, teachers, and many more to be tested. I want me and my loved ones as safe as they can be. that does not change the constitution democracy === is the wants of the majority trampling the rights of the minority that is a perfect example of it --------- I want me and my loved ones as safe as they can be. how many liberties will you give up for a false since of security ------ i used to drive truck random is bull they set it up so those they know do drugs do not get tested and only test the ones that would test clean i had three tests in 1 year while others never got tested that i would bet used reasonable cause is also thrown out dui setting in your driveway bullsh1t facism at its best |
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dosnt really matter if you drug test someone or not, most test can be passed if they really want to
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Edited by
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Sun 11/23/08 07:31 PM
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does this thread make anyone else feel like going to the bathroom?
ooh la wee I sho gotta pee |
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dosnt really matter if you drug test someone or not, most test can be passed if they really want to exactly so if you can afford the cheat yer good another crime against the poor |
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I know somebody that did damage when using and operating heavy equipment.
My ex's brother was killed from a drunk driver. I am sensitive about this issue. |
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Edited by
adj4u
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Sun 11/23/08 08:05 PM
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I know somebody that did damage when using and operating heavy equipment. My ex's brother was killed from a drunk driver. I am sensitive about this issue. and you have that right i am sorry for your loss  free speech gives you the right to say what you want but the law is in place and it still happens and anyone under the influence should get a manditory double time sentence |
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People should be tested by how good they do their job rather than by what drugs might be in their system. I smoke, and i really believe it doesnt affect my job in the slightest. Weed should be viewed differently to other drugs, if only because it stays in your system for so long. It is unfair that someone could have a week off and do loads of cocaine, and then flush it out of their system before they return, But if you have a couple of joints a few weeks earlier you will probably be caught if you are tested. I dont agree people on welfare should be tested either, though i do believe that they should be made to do some kinda work for their money too, as long as they are physically fit to do so. There is plenty of litter to pick up from the streets, grafitti to be painted over, etc etc They do. When a person is on welfare, they must be looking for a job and/or in some kind of educational training. There is also a time limit for welfare. And by people, we are talking about mostly poor, single mothers, btw. That is kinda the way the Benefits system works in the UK too i believe. But to be 'looking' for a job, you can just turn up at the job centre once a week for half hour or so. Many people looking arent actually looking at all, they are bone idle layabouts. Many women also have kids just so they can get on the benefits system, which includes getting all their rent paid plus a weekly allowance. But then i wouldnt like things to be made more difficult for single mothers of course, they have it difficult enough as it is. Of course the kids dont deserve to suffer either. But there are a lot of people getting an undeserved free ride out there and its disgusting. I dont know about America, but there are people here that live a pretty reasonable life not working, whereas some people that are working full time but on a lower wage are living below the poverty line. Dan, here when people live on welfare, they barely have enough to survive. And yes, here there are people working full time but still are below the poverty line. The ones that are abusing the welfare system are the minority. |
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