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Do you believe real love can save anyone?
Taking this question at face value and not assuming anything I'd have to answer yes. When someone is in love their motivations can change dramatically. Can that lead them to change things about themselves that may be self-destructive and thereby save themselves? Yes, I do believe that is very possible. 
But then you are only willing to change to suit someone else. It could create a momentum in your life or a reason to change to preserve your future existence in some respect. In other words, the kick in the ass you might have required, but in order for long term lifestyle changes to fully go into effect, it MUST be done for selfish reasons and because you desire for those changes to take place. Otherwise you are playing with borrowed time. What if that person should leave you? Thats been my experience at least. I did preface my answer with "Taking this question at face value and not assuming anything I'd have to answer yes.", letting you know I'm strictly answering the question asked. Love being the motivation for change, a person can change to suit themselves just as easily as you say they are only willing to change to suit someone else. No one said the other person required this change. Let's say someone had a child and found themselves helplessly in "real love" and wanting to do and give the best of themselves for their child. Wouldn't that be significant and selfish motivation? |
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Topic: Do you believe real love can save anyone?
No, love does not make the world go round. No matter how truley and deeply you love someone they have to love themselves first in order to survive the jungle. 
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Do you believe real love can save anyone?
Taking this question at face value and not assuming anything I'd have to answer yes. When someone is in love their motivations can change dramatically. Can that lead them to change things about themselves that may be self-destructive and thereby save themselves? Yes, I do believe that is very possible.
But then you are only willing to change to suit someone else. It could create a momentum in your life or a reason to change to preserve your future existence in some respect. In other words, the kick in the ass you might have required, but in order for long term lifestyle changes to fully go into effect, it MUST be done for selfish reasons and because you desire for those changes to take place. Otherwise you are playing with borrowed time. What if that person should leave you? Thats been my experience at least. I did preface my answer with "Taking this question at face value and not assuming anything I'd have to answer yes.", letting you know I'm strictly answering the question asked. Love being the motivation for change, a person can change to suit themselves just as easily as you say they are only willing to change to suit someone else. No one said the other person required this change. Let's say someone had a child and found themselves helplessly in "real love" and wanting to do and give the best of themselves for their child. Wouldn't that be significant and selfish motivation? My point was that I personally believe that IF a person chooses to only change to satisfy another (which is what it sounded like you were attempting to convey) it wont work in the long term. Sorry if that was unclear. For your scenario. I dont understand what you mean at all? Can you be a little more specific? Someone is selfish because they feel "real love" for their child and want to be the best possible parent? I dont want to jump to conclusions if that is not what you meant to say. |
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Topic: Do you believe real love can save anyone? No, love does not make the world go round. No matter how truley and deeply you love someone they have to love themselves first in order to survive the jungle.
I concur.  
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someone save my life tonight......
wait, that's a song, lol |
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There has to be a "You" first. Love can then add great things to that.
Love can be sooo meaningless without the foundation of a Happy You. Too many people looking to be "rescued" by love. Love does not rescue, it builds on what is already good in us. JMO |
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no
you can't love someone if they won't let ya 
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Let's say someone had a child and found themselves helplessly in "real love" and wanting to do and give the best of themselves for their child. Wouldn't that be significant and selfish motivation? You are confusing/mixing unconditional love with given love. Love in a romantic relationship is conditional no matter how you look at it. You may not choose to love that person but you choose to act on that love. Unconditional love has no bounds like the instinct to breath. A mother (if normal) feels unconditional love for a child as the child does for her. There is no comparison. |
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There has to be a "You" first. Love can then add great things to that. Love can be sooo meaningless without the foundation of a Happy You. Too many people looking to be "rescued" by love. Love does not rescue, it builds on what is already good in us. JMO Well Said! |
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There has to be a "You" first. Love can then add great things to that. Love can be sooo meaningless without the foundation of a Happy You. Too many people looking to be "rescued" by love. Love does not rescue, it builds on what is already good in us. JMO Well Said! Wow!!! thanks.....and I've only had 1 cup of coffee........ |
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There has to be a "You" first. Love can then add great things to that. Love can be sooo meaningless without the foundation of a Happy You. Too many people looking to be "rescued" by love. Love does not rescue, it builds on what is already good in us. JMO Well Said! Wow!!! thanks.....and I've only had 1 cup of coffee........ I'm a pot ahead!!! Maybe you think better a little cloudy!!! HA! HA! |
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Edited by
artcat
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Sun 11/23/08 08:05 AM
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Let's say someone had a child and found themselves helplessly in "real love" and wanting to do and give the best of themselves for their child. Wouldn't that be significant and selfish motivation? Krimsa, what I mean by this is that one's love for your child and thereby wanting to be and give the best of yourself for them can be the selfish motivation for changing one's life. You are confusing/mixing unconditional love with given love. Love in a romantic relationship is conditional no matter how you look at it. You may not choose to love that person but you choose to act on that love. Unconditional love has no bounds like the instinct to breath. A mother (if normal) feels unconditional love for a child as the child does for her. There is no comparison.
The question did not specify a type of love so I am not confusing/mixing anything. I'm merely pointing out that the love one feels for a child can indeed be an impetus for change in oneself. Therefore, my answer to the question remains yes, 'real love' can save someone. |
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Let's say someone had a child and found themselves helplessly in "real love" and wanting to do and give the best of themselves for their child. Wouldn't that be significant and selfish motivation? Krimsa, what I mean by this is that one's love for your child and thereby wanting to be and give the best of yourself for them can be the selfish motivation for changing one's life. You are confusing/mixing unconditional love with given love. Love in a romantic relationship is conditional no matter how you look at it. You may not choose to love that person but you choose to act on that love. Unconditional love has no bounds like the instinct to breath. A mother (if normal) feels unconditional love for a child as the child does for her. There is no comparison.
The question did not specify a type of love so I am not confusing/mixing anything. I'm merely pointing out that the love one feels for a child can indeed be an impetus for change in oneself. Therefore, my answer to the question remains yes, 'real love' can save someone. Oh so that is why the question is posted under "Relationship Advice" on a dating site!!! LOL Got'ch! |
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Edited by
Krimsa
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Sun 11/23/08 08:10 AM
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Eh, you are reaching on that one artcat but there is no "wrong" or "right" here so lets not argue. Primarily a question like this is going to reflect a person's past experience.
My past life experience has been that I can not sustain a long term lifestyle commitment to change unless I am totally sold on the notion myself. I cant do it to simply appease another or because they would prefer that I do it. Generally that leads to a lot of deception and me going through the motions of change to satisfy the significant other in some respect. In other words. I dont feel it on any emotional level for myself. |
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Oh no arguing at all here Krimsa. Just a friendly debate......at least as far as I'm concerned. All opinion is going to be somewhat experientially based, and in the end, it's just that, each person's opinion.
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Oh my God! If love doesn't make the world go around...then what is the point in trying? (If the answer is having a balanced check book...shoot me now)
Paying a bill or having a nice car might relieve some of my tension...but, it ain't even close to the feeling of peace that I get when I am truly loved. Damn....I feel truly sorry for some of you guys. If I can have everything that I desire but, can't have true love....then I have nothing. If I have nothing but knowing that I am truly loved....I am wealthy. |
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If love can save me from youporn, I'm all for it.
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It's been said a few different ways here, but I'm gonna add my 2 cents and agree. I don't think you can save someone with your love, nor can you be saved by someone's love. It can be very helpful, and come at a very helpful time, but a person has to want to save themself.
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Hard to believe love is anything aside from an emotional response to a situation...honestly it is hard to believe love is even existant in today's society.
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some people think so... 
 Not from me
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