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Environmentally friendly Acrylic Glass.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/11/081113085155.htm Greener fireworks http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/06/080630112405.htm Greener plastic's production using H20 http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/05/080527155506.htm Issues related to alternative fuels http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/03/080331130255.htm http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080103144404.htm Add your green ideas or link some that you really thought where cool. |
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My big problem with alternative fuels is to really make sure that we are making a difference in the overall issue (which is balancing our need for NRG with the sustainability of our environment.)
I just don't see a way that we can keep growing and not eventually ruin the earth at some point regardless of technology. |
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Edited by
SkyHook5652
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A CD with some catchy and education tunes for kids.
http://www.letsgogreenkids.com/ I don't mind admitting that all the songs were written by my platinum record owning brother, and that a niece and nephew of mine (top right photo on the first page of photos) sang on most of the songs. 
(Oh excuse me. Did I drop all those names. Let me pick them up.  )
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My big problem with alternative fuels is to really make sure that we are making a difference in the overall issue (which is balancing our need for NRG with the sustainability of our environment.) I just don't see a way that we can keep growing and not eventually ruin the earth at some point regardless of technology. But that is the holy grail of environmentalism - unlimited energy in a clean and useful form. And unless we find it, I'm afraid you're right. |
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My big problem with alternative fuels is to really make sure that we are making a difference in the overall issue (which is balancing our need for NRG with the sustainability of our environment.)
I think technology could offer solutions if there were a practical source of effectively unlimited energy in a clean and useful form.
I just don't see a way that we can keep growing and not eventually ruin the earth at some point regardless of technology. But that is the holy grail of environmentalism - unlimited energy in a clean and useful form. And unless we find it, I'm afraid you're right. On the other hand, I think it is entirely possible that the earth might ruin us, regardless of what we do. Some of the information I've read and heard about the natural changes that occur on this planet (ice ages, magnetic pole reversals) seem to indicate that all higher life forms on this planet are in for some major changes in the next few thousand years anyway. |
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My big problem with alternative fuels is to really make sure that we are making a difference in the overall issue (which is balancing our need for NRG with the sustainability of our environment.)
I think technology could offer solutions if there were a practical source of effectively unlimited energy in a clean and useful form.
I just don't see a way that we can keep growing and not eventually ruin the earth at some point regardless of technology. But that is the holy grail of environmentalism - unlimited energy in a clean and useful form. And unless we find it, I'm afraid you're right. On the other hand, I think it is entirely possible that the earth might ruin us, regardless of what we do. Some of the information I've read and heard about the natural changes that occur on this planet (ice ages, magnetic pole reversals) seem to indicate that all higher life forms on this planet are in for some major changes in the next few thousand years anyway. I believe that is probably true, I also believe that if we continue learning at the given rate then we may be able to overcome this issues with enough will. |
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Pushbikes, or walking
Rainwater storage tanks Canvas shopping bags Vegetarianism Solar panels and solar hot water Vege and herb gardens Grey water storage Composting loos. ......off the top of my head. 
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My big problem with alternative fuels is to really make sure that we are making a difference in the overall issue (which is balancing our need for NRG with the sustainability of our environment.)
I think technology could offer solutions if there were a practical source of effectively unlimited energy in a clean and useful form.
I just don't see a way that we can keep growing and not eventually ruin the earth at some point regardless of technology. But that is the holy grail of environmentalism - unlimited energy in a clean and useful form. And unless we find it, I'm afraid you're right. On the other hand, I think it is entirely possible that the earth might ruin us, regardless of what we do. Some of the information I've read and heard about the natural changes that occur on this planet (ice ages, magnetic pole reversals) seem to indicate that all higher life forms on this planet are in for some major changes in the next few thousand years anyway. |
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Pushbikes, or walking Rainwater storage tanks Canvas shopping bags Vegetarianism Solar panels and solar hot water Vege and herb gardens Grey water storage Composting loos. ......off the top of my head.
Great examples! 
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How about let's keep it simple, folks?
RECYCLE! 
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Recycling is a mixed bag.
Sadly it is half hype. |
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Edited by
SkyHook5652
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- a caveat for those considering "reusable" shopping bags.
I bought a "reusable" shopping bag while grocery shopping. As I was taking the bag of groceries out of the car at home, the bag ripped. The construction was such that it could not be repaired (an open weave that unravelled), and the material could not be recycled (wrong type of plastic fibers). So that bag was many, many times more "harmful" to the environment than a plain paper bag would have been. |
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we already have the means of outfitting every car in amrica not older than 96 with a hydrogen system that will supply all the fuel will ever need to run vehicles with - whats stopping or holding it up? big business and the government especially.
>>United nuclear scientific<< [google it], has units installed in Suv's and even corvettes that as of now have well over 50,000 miles on the road with no problems, the units are completely safe no danger of explosions from wrecks and the canisters can be shot with armour piercing or incindiary bullets without worry of detonation. go read if your interested it would be out on the market now if not for the governments where they were but they are now moving to a alternative friendly state [Michigan] to set up for production, cost of installed unit 7-10 thousand alot? consider this, it has its own hydrogen generator that can run either on electricity from the home or by solar panels - if by solar panels you will never pay a red cent again for fossil fuels or other fuels, it is also instantly switchable to use regular gas or flex fuels at the hit of a switch no disconnecting anything!! so you'll never be stranded or left to contemplate whether or not you have enough energy to go where you want. - to me that's heaven!! you can read the details at the site - enjoy!! |
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If we would all just quit trying to imress each other with all our stuff. we could save enough energy......oh ....then we would'nt need very much energy.
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Edited by
Jess642
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If we would all just quit trying to imress each other with all our stuff. we could save enough energy......oh ....then we would'nt need very much energy. YEP! I am not my things! I can not be defined by the car I drive, (or not drive) the clothes I wear( or not) or any of the stuff that people have been egocentrically drawn into as defining them. Having lived off the grid for 13 years in a sustainable lifestyle, I know how little one needs in the stuff department...
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we already have the means of outfitting every car in amrica not older than 96 with a hydrogen system that will supply all the fuel will ever need to run vehicles with - whats stopping or holding it up? big business and the government especially. >>United nuclear scientific<< [google it], has units installed in Suv's and even corvettes that as of now have well over 50,000 miles on the road with no problems, the units are completely safe no danger of explosions from wrecks and the canisters can be shot with armour piercing or incindiary bullets without worry of detonation. go read if your interested it would be out on the market now if not for the governments where they were but they are now moving to a alternative friendly state [Michigan] to set up for production, cost of installed unit 7-10 thousand alot? consider this, it has its own hydrogen generator that can run either on electricity from the home or by solar panels - if by solar panels you will never pay a red cent again for fossil fuels or other fuels, it is also instantly switchable to use regular gas or flex fuels at the hit of a switch no disconnecting anything!! so you'll never be stranded or left to contemplate whether or not you have enough energy to go where you want. - to me that's heaven!! you can read the details at the site - enjoy!! Hydrogen fuel comes from water. Where will you get your water from after you use it all to make fuel. The oceans will become poluted by the process of making fuel... Only oxegenated brine will remain. Every change we make (even the smallest) effects all other parts of the earth in some way... The trick is to make the changes with the least overall impact. We could try running our cars on methane... Might smell bad but you can make fuel out of garbage. |
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My big problem with alternative fuels is to really make sure that we are making a difference in the overall issue (which is balancing our need for NRG with the sustainability of our environment.) I just don't see a way that we can keep growing and not eventually ruin the earth at some point regardless of technology. we dont have to ruin anything for fuels all can be made from hydrogen- non polluting- it will be here within 2 years and adaptable to most types of cars and other things needing fossil fuels or biofuels read my other post here. |
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we already have the means of outfitting every car in america not older than 96 with a hydrogen system that will supply all the fuel will ever need to run vehicles with - whats stopping or holding it up? big business and the government especially. >>United nuclear scientific<< [google it], has units installed in Suv's and even corvettes that as of now have well over 50,000 miles on the road with no problems, the units are completely safe no danger of explosions from wrecks and the canisters can be shot with armour piercing or incindiary bullets without worry of detonation. go read if your interested it would be out on the market now if not for the governments where they were but they are now moving to a alternative friendly state [Michigan] to set up for production, cost of installed unit 7-10 thousand alot? consider this, it has its own hydrogen generator that can run either on electricity from the home or by solar panels - if by solar panels you will never pay a red cent again for fossil fuels or other fuels, it is also instantly switchable to use regular gas or flex fuels at the hit of a switch no disconnecting anything!! so you'll never be stranded or left to contemplate whether or not you have enough energy to go where you want. - to me that's heaven!! you can read the details at the site - enjoy!! Hydrogen fuel comes from water. Where will you get your water from after you use it all to make fuel. The oceans will become poluted by the process of making fuel... Only oxegenated brine will remain. Every change we make (even the smallest) effects all other parts of the earth in some way... The trick is to make the changes with the least overall impact. We could try running our cars on methane... Might smell bad but you can make fuel out of garbage. well your correct no matter what we use it is not an endless supply nor the best answer for long term remdy my friend - including methane which has its drawback as to green house gasses. but for now if we dont get something that will allow for future research to come up with better alternitives, then its useless anyway. we will be gone and our children/grandchildren will be stuck with the problem. i'd rather see it done now than wait for anher 11 years to happen like the car companies are talking of - make it mandatory to use the unrelated systems not made by the car mfgs. **** big business conglomerates, use small entrepanuers to fill the gaps!! which is what we should have done all along!! |
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