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Topic: Students Told Not To Say Obama
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Wed 11/12/08 10:38 AM
PEARL, Miss. -- The American Civil Liberties Union of Mississippi said Friday that it had received numerous reports from throughout the state from parents and students regarding alleged violations of students’ free speech following Tuesday’s election, Jackson television news station WAPT reported.

On Thursday, the Pearl Schools superintendent said that a school bus driver and a coach were disciplined for allegedly telling students not to say President-elect Barack Obama’s name.

Reporters with 16 WAPT News received several calls from upset parents that said a school bus driver told the children on a Pearl school bus that if they said Obama’s name, they would be written up and taken to the principal’s office for disciplinary reasons.

Another parent said that a coach at Pearl Junior High School told students that if they speak Obama’s name, they would face expulsion.

The ACLU said the complaints encompass harassment, bullying and intimidation.

"A complete prohibition of political speech violates the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution and will not be tolerated," the ACLU said in a statement. "This election should serve as an opportunity to educate students and encourage tolerance."

Parents said the incident is sad as America begins a new presidency.

"They feel like they are afraid to say our president's name because they will get in trouble," mother Canishia Simpson said. "They shouldn't have to feel that way."


Read more here:

http://www.wjactv.com/education/17958757/detail.html

What's next?

WarElephant's photo
Wed 11/12/08 10:46 AM
No legal claim here, unfortunately. Supreme Court has ruled (and multiple times) that you do not have full constitutional rights until you turn 18, including the fabled 1st Amendment. It kinda sucks, but there is a reason for it.

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Wed 11/12/08 10:55 AM
yanno, i'm just sick of racism...i wish everybody was....

Lynann's photo
Wed 11/12/08 10:58 AM
This is really disheartening.

How does this prepare students for the real world?

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Wed 11/12/08 11:08 AM

This is really disheartening.

How does this prepare students for the real world?


this seems to be "the real world" for some people...
I am sick of the racism also
if something needs to die I wish racism was it

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Wed 11/12/08 11:10 AM

No legal claim here, unfortunately. Supreme Court has ruled (and multiple times) that you do not have full constitutional rights until you turn 18, including the fabled 1st Amendment. It kinda sucks, but there is a reason for it.


that's very sad
no right to express yourself
very sad indeed

Dredz_Hang_Low's photo
Wed 11/12/08 11:14 AM

This is really disheartening.

How does this prepare students for the real world?



this sounds like something a fast stepping mingle2 member we all know would do.


bunch of angry Mississippi republicans

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Wed 11/12/08 11:15 AM
the school should loose federal funding for disrespecting the highest office in the land

it matters not what ethnicity of the holder of the office (which should not matter anyway) it is a school - schools need to teach - not only should they be permitted to say his name -- the school should be teaching it - it is called govt class -- or social studies in the lower grades --

just a thought

but hey

what do i know


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Wed 11/12/08 11:38 AM


This is really disheartening.

How does this prepare students for the real world?


this seems to be "the real world" for some people...
I am sick of the racism also
if something needs to die I wish racism was it


It's scary.:cry:

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Wed 11/12/08 11:40 AM
Edited by littleredhen on Wed 11/12/08 11:47 AM
indifferent

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Wed 11/12/08 11:43 AM
I did not read the entire piece, but from what was posted, I don't see anything that has to do with racism. It says that the coach and the school bus driver would take disciplinary measures if any of the students mentioned Obama's name.

Perhaps these two persons were (are) McCain supporters who spoke out of line?

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Wed 11/12/08 11:44 AM
Edited by quiet_2008 on Wed 11/12/08 11:44 AM
apparantly you left out a lot of the story. I guess it sounds better and gets people more worked up when you leave out the fact that it was an isolated incident and the bus driver was suspended

"The whole nation was excited, and in no way and at no time will children be disciplined for saying the name of the president-elect of the United States. Any employee who would attempt to do that would be corrected and disciplined. We expect professional behavior, respect and demeanor of staff and students. It is unfortunate that some employees mishandled this situation, but they have been disciplined and I have spent the day clarifying our policies."

-Pearl Superintendant of Schools

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Wed 11/12/08 11:45 AM
Edited by Winx on Wed 11/12/08 11:46 AM

apparantly you left out a lot of the story. I guess it sounds better and gets people more worked up when you leave out the fact that it was an isolated incident and the bus driver was suspended

"The whole nation was excited, and in no way and at no time will children be disciplined for saying the name of the president-elect of the United States. Any employee who would attempt to do that would be corrected and disciplined. We expect professional behavior, respect and demeanor of staff and students. It is unfortunate that some employees mishandled this situation, but they have been disciplined and I have spent the day clarifying our policies."

-Pearl Superintendant of Schools



She did say, "Read more here" and showed the link.



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Wed 11/12/08 11:47 AM
yah, but at the same time she only picked out the sentences to make people think it was a school policy

I think if your gonna post an article you should post the whole article and not just pick out sentences that change the intent of the article

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Wed 11/12/08 11:57 AM
Edited by snarkytwain on Wed 11/12/08 11:59 AM
Take a second look: If you read what she posted, it clearly says "a school bus driver and a coach were disciplined". Obviously it was not school policy if they were disciplined.

I'm thinking it was personal opinion that shouldn't have been stated. As a teacher myself, I know for a fact that that is a very bad idea with minors. Parents get a little annoyed when you push your personal opinions on their kids. Just a tad.


the school should loose federal funding for disrespecting the highest office in the land

it matters not what ethnicity of the holder of the office (which should not matter anyway) it is a school - schools need to teach - not only should they be permitted to say his name -- the school should be teaching it - it is called govt class -- or social studies in the lower grades --

just a thought

but hey

what do i know


flowerforyou Totally agreed!

(Edited cuz I can't use HTML. Pfft. grumble )

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Wed 11/12/08 12:20 PM
Edited by heartSoul on Wed 11/12/08 12:25 PM

yah, but at the same time she only picked out the sentences to make people think it was a school policy

I think if your gonna post an article you should post the whole article and not just pick out sentences that change the intent of the article


FYI, I posted the beginning of the article, maybe you should read the whole article before you accuse me of anything.

so if your gonna get upset with someone it should be the author, not me

and it is what it is
a lot of people are pissed because a man of color is in the White House

which is ironic, because he would have never made it if people of ALL colors didn't vote for him...

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Wed 11/12/08 01:04 PM


yah, but at the same time she only picked out the sentences to make people think it was a school policy

I think if your gonna post an article you should post the whole article and not just pick out sentences that change the intent of the article


FYI, I posted the beginning of the article, maybe you should read the whole article before you accuse me of anything.

so if your gonna get upset with someone it should be the author, not me

and it is what it is
a lot of people are pissed because a man of color is in the White House

which is ironic, because he would have never made it if people of ALL colors didn't vote for him...



i didnt read the article but id say this has more to do with him being a democrat than it does with him being black... that and the republicans tried their best to make Obama into a deamon socialist arab terrorist.


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Wed 11/12/08 01:12 PM



yah, but at the same time she only picked out the sentences to make people think it was a school policy

I think if your gonna post an article you should post the whole article and not just pick out sentences that change the intent of the article


FYI, I posted the beginning of the article, maybe you should read the whole article before you accuse me of anything.

so if your gonna get upset with someone it should be the author, not me

and it is what it is
a lot of people are pissed because a man of color is in the White House

which is ironic, because he would have never made it if people of ALL colors didn't vote for him...



i didnt read the article but id say this has more to do with him being a democrat than it does with him being black... that and the republicans tried their best to make Obama into a deamon socialist arab terrorist.




They did at my child's school.grumble

It is a Christian school and they did a mock rally and election. There were signs in the hallways that said that Obama voted for abortion. We are talking about elementary students.

Children were saying that Obama is bad because he wants to stop the war in Iraq and if he does, they will attack us.
They said that Obama kills babies. He wants to eat with terrorists too. They said he was Muslim.

You know that they are parroting their parents.grumble

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Wed 11/12/08 01:19 PM




yah, but at the same time she only picked out the sentences to make people think it was a school policy

I think if your gonna post an article you should post the whole article and not just pick out sentences that change the intent of the article


FYI, I posted the beginning of the article, maybe you should read the whole article before you accuse me of anything.

so if your gonna get upset with someone it should be the author, not me

and it is what it is
a lot of people are pissed because a man of color is in the White House

which is ironic, because he would have never made it if people of ALL colors didn't vote for him...



i didnt read the article but id say this has more to do with him being a democrat than it does with him being black... that and the republicans tried their best to make Obama into a deamon socialist arab terrorist.




They did at my child's school.grumble

It is a Christian school and they did a mock rally and election. There were signs in the hallways that said that Obama voted for abortion. We are talking about elementary students.

Children were saying that Obama is bad because he wants to stop the war in Iraq and if he does, they will attack us.
They said that Obama kills babies. He wants to eat with terrorists too. They said he was Muslim.

You know that they are parroting their parents.grumble


Ohh WINX... I work at a Christian school... here's a repost from my MySpace blog about exactly this subject:

So... Obama won. I'm thrilled. Many people I know are thrilled. Many aren't so thrilled, and that's their right. I wasn't either when Bush**** was elected. Whatever. But what I just had to endure here at my job is something that I never EVER want to endure again.

It's chapel day. I hoped and prayed they would stay the **** away from politics. But oh, no. It was way too good a chance to further brainwash these kids into believing anything they are told as fact.

First, the speaker asked the students what they thought of Obama. The reactions weren't very mixed:

"He's scary."

"He hates us."

"He wants to kill us."

"He isn't a Christian." (Not really an issue to me, but neither is it the truth. Obama is a proclaimed Baptist.)

"He's Moslem." (Again, not an issue but not the truth either.)

"He's in it for the New World Order."

"He's the Antichrist."

"He's going to raise all the taxes until nobody can have a business."

"He's evil."

"He wants to kill babies."

Onandonandonandon...

And what did the speaker do? Did she encourage them to do research, to see the facts and decide from that what their opinion is?

Of course not!

Instead, she encouraged them and told them that America has gotten off track in its course for God. She said that we have to pray for our country and ask God's frogivness for electing Obama.

She said a lot of stuff but by then I was too busy concentrating on looking calm that I didn't hear the rest.

Yes, I know I work at a Christian school. Am I surprised? No. But that doesn't change the fact that I am pissed off.

Be a Christian. Be on fire for Jesus. I don't care. Just PLEASE don't teach your children lies as fact when you haven't any idea what the truth is yourself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
RRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH
HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is all.


I feel for you. I do.

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Wed 11/12/08 01:46 PM



Ohh WINX... I work at a Christian school... here's a repost from my MySpace blog about exactly this subject:

So... Obama won. I'm thrilled. Many people I know are thrilled. Many aren't so thrilled, and that's their right. I wasn't either when Bush**** was elected. Whatever. But what I just had to endure here at my job is something that I never EVER want to endure again.

It's chapel day. I hoped and prayed they would stay the **** away from politics. But oh, no. It was way too good a chance to further brainwash these kids into believing anything they are told as fact.

First, the speaker asked the students what they thought of Obama. The reactions weren't very mixed:

"He's scary."

"He hates us."

"He wants to kill us."

"He isn't a Christian." (Not really an issue to me, but neither is it the truth. Obama is a proclaimed Baptist.)

"He's Moslem." (Again, not an issue but not the truth either.)

"He's in it for the New World Order."

"He's the Antichrist."

"He's going to raise all the taxes until nobody can have a business."

"He's evil."

"He wants to kill babies."

Onandonandonandon...

And what did the speaker do? Did she encourage them to do research, to see the facts and decide from that what their opinion is?

Of course not!

Instead, she encouraged them and told them that America has gotten off track in its course for God. She said that we have to pray for our country and ask God's frogivness for electing Obama.

She said a lot of stuff but by then I was too busy concentrating on looking calm that I didn't hear the rest.

Yes, I know I work at a Christian school. Am I surprised? No. But that doesn't change the fact that I am pissed off.

Be a Christian. Be on fire for Jesus. I don't care. Just PLEASE don't teach your children lies as fact when you haven't any idea what the truth is yourself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
RRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH
HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is all.


I feel for you. I do.


..... and thus is why i am an atheist.

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