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Okay I will read it and let you know what I think. But no I was never commenting on Plato's story and was speaking about Minoan Crete so if there was some confusion there, I apologize.
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I find with many (if not all of these cultures) if you trace them back much further, there tends to be a clearly defined prevalence of Goddess imagery and worship. The thing of it is, if someone is openminded enough to admit the truth of the matter (sorry not trying to suggest you are not open-minded, Iknow yuo are), you will find that if gone far enough back, religion was actualy based off of a balanced male and female basis. Yes the male sided tended more towards the aggressive natures, whereas the female side, tended more towards the nurturing and caring side. |
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Krimsa
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Fri 11/14/08 05:30 AM
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I find with many (if not all of these cultures) if you trace them back much further, there tends to be a clearly defined prevalence of Goddess imagery and worship. The thing of it is, if someone is openminded enough to admit the truth of the matter (sorry not trying to suggest you are not open-minded, Iknow yuo are), you will find that if gone far enough back, religion was actualy based off of a balanced male and female basis. Yes the male sided tended more towards the aggressive natures, whereas the female side, tended more towards the nurturing and caring side. I think that is the definition of the word "Egalitarian" which is what actually defined Minoan Crete and their culture. In stark contrast to a Monotheistic religion in which the conceptualization of one male deity (who can create) exists to the exclusion of all others. The point I was trying to make is that if we dig far enough back on just about any of these ancient cultures, we can clearly see a female centered form of worship because females would have represented the creative force or "givers of life" It was only much later that a sole male god was somehow attributed with this power. |
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I thought it was in Georgia.
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Human beings reached our "modern" state of evolution over 100,000 years ago, but we only have ~6,000 years of recorded history. Who possibly knows what civilizations could have existed and been wiped out prior to that? It's very possible that, for example, 10,000 years ago a large civilization collapsed and survived through legends to modern times. It's unfortunate that we have such a lack of recorded history from those early times.
Of course we lack the evidence to show early civilizations - but look at Central America for an example. You have the Aztecs, and before them you have much less evidence of another Toltec civilization, and even remnants of yet another pre-Toltec society under those ruins. People building on top of people. :) We're great at wiping out evidence of previous civilizations. So there's your answer ^ there were probably a hundred different Atlantis civilizations that have disappeared from human history, and our current civilizations and records are a lot more vulnerable than we like to think. |
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Human beings reached our "modern" state of evolution over 100,000 years ago, but we only have ~6,000 years of recorded history. Who possibly knows what civilizations could have existed and been wiped out prior to that? It's very possible that, for example, 10,000 years ago a large civilization collapsed and survived through legends to modern times. It's unfortunate that we have such a lack of recorded history from those early times. Of course we lack the evidence to show early civilizations - but look at Central America for an example. You have the Aztecs, and before them you have much less evidence of another Toltec civilization, and even remnants of yet another pre-Toltec society under those ruins. People building on top of people. :) We're great at wiping out evidence of previous civilizations. So there's your answer ^ there were probably a hundred different Atlantis civilizations that have disappeared from human history, and our current civilizations and records are a lot more vulnerable than we like to think. good answer 
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Krimsa
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Fri 11/14/08 12:51 PM
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Im sticking with the theory of Crete unless something more plausible comes along.
Similarities Between Crete and Atlantis 1. Atlantis was the way to other islands. This is an accurate description of Crete as the gateway to the Cyclades and Greece. 2. The palace of the Atlantians on a low hill 50 stadia inland and near a fertile plain is a good description of Knossos. 3. The description of the land fits perfectly with the southern coast of Crete. 4. There were bulls hunted without weapons which is characteristic of Minoan Crete. 5. The construction of the buildings match Knossos. The religion of Crete put aside here are some undeniable similarities with the geography alone. It would be an entire new list if we approached culture. |
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Im sticking with the theory of Crete unless something more plausible comes along.  My latest theory is that during the Neolithic, there was an advanced civilization of egalitarian alpaca farmers that practiced a female centered form of worship.
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Where do you think it is located? It's in the Pegasus Galaxy where the Ancients moved it to hide it from the Wraith. 
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Sigh. Krimsa becomes indignant and runs from the room.
Its Crete I tell you!   
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Sigh. Krimsa becomes indignant and runs from the room. Its Crete I tell you!   
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Where do you think it is located? It's in the Pegasus Galaxy where the Ancients moved it to hide it from the Wraith. 
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Edited by
Krimsa
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Fri 11/14/08 02:59 PM
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Sigh. Krimsa becomes indignant and runs from the room. Its Crete I tell you! If you scroll up there has been several reasons given.  Bimini Road, though interesting is probably a naturally occurring geologic occurrence and nothing designed by human hands.
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Sigh. Krimsa becomes indignant and runs from the room. Its Crete I tell you! If you scroll up there has been several reasons given. Bimini Road, though interesting is probably a naturally occurring geologic occurrence and nothing designed by human hands. Of course Plato said Atlantis was west of the Strait of Gilbraltor so Crete wouldn't be what he was talking about. |
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Edited by
Krimsa
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Fri 11/14/08 07:57 PM
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You dont have to use geography necessarily as a reference point but Im just pointing out you can with Crete. Pretty much it all lines up. Atlantis could have been anywhere. It might have been in the Atlantic Ocean.
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Edited by
Krimsa
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Sun 11/16/08 04:49 AM
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Mirror I felt I needed to post this for you,
Crete’s fabled Minoan civilization was built by people from Anatolia, according to a new study by Greek and foreign scientists that disputes an earlier theory that said the Minoans’ forefathers had come from Africa. The new study - a collaboration by experts in Greece, the USA, Canada, Russia and Turkey - drew its conclusions from the DNA analysis of 193 men from Crete and another 171 from former neolithic colonies in central and northern Greece. The results show that the country’s neolithic population came to Greece by sea from Anatolia - modern-day Iran, Iraq and Syria - and not from Africa as maintained by US scholar Martin Bernal. The DNA analysis indicates that the arrival of neolithic man in Greece from Anatolia coincided with the social and cultural upsurge that led to the birth of the Minoan civilization, Constantinos Triantafyllidis of Thessaloniki’s Aristotle University told Kathimerini.
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I haven't begun my studies into it yet, but I have been given some information on it here and there as well as to what peoples and cultures to study to gain alot of info on Atlantis. I believe my teacher said something about chthonians among a few others. I have a list on another site, if I look at it today I will refer it here. smiles, goodmornin
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Good morning. People have many ideas on this. I just latched onto Crete because there are several "concrete" similarities with Atlantis based on the culture of the Minoans and also geographical location of the Island of Crete. Also the way the island was effected by natural disaster also parallels the demise of Atlantis.
Although people will argue this till they are blue in the face. My personal feeling is Atlantis was very real but what it became was a legend of the lost Minoan civilization. So real people that were attributed to legend over the centuries. This also happened with the "Amazons" who were very real. The Greeks did battle with them yet for a period of time they were related to "myth."
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Mirror I felt I needed to post this for you, Crete’s fabled Minoan civilization was built by people from Anatolia, according to a new study by Greek and foreign scientists that disputes an earlier theory that said the Minoans’ forefathers had come from Africa. The new study - a collaboration by experts in Greece, the USA, Canada, Russia and Turkey - drew its conclusions from the DNA analysis of 193 men from Crete and another 171 from former neolithic colonies in central and northern Greece. The results show that the country’s neolithic population came to Greece by sea from Anatolia - modern-day Iran, Iraq and Syria - and not from Africa as maintained by US scholar Martin Bernal. The DNA analysis indicates that the arrival of neolithic man in Greece from Anatolia coincided with the social and cultural upsurge that led to the birth of the Minoan civilization, Constantinos Triantafyllidis of Thessaloniki’s Aristotle University told Kathimerini. What an interesting coincidence.I think that your theory may be correct.
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It all took place during the Neolithic!
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