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Topic: Most important change
MirrorMirror's photo
Mon 11/10/08 03:42 PM



Foriegn Policy -

I would like to see all our troops brought home from everywhere



Cutting back on government spending -

With the troops home we can cut the department of homeland security.

Cut the department of education to let schools evolve to make the most of an education.

The department of energy i swear is making us more dependent on oil. Abolish it, and let future companies pursue their own path to a new energy.

With HMO abolished cost of healthcare would greatly decrease. They don't allow practice of cheap, noninvasive procedures that are proven to do the same job as prescription drugs, without side effects.





With the money freed up from cutting programs and no longer being the world police, we take half, and put it on our deficit, and give the other half back to tax payers...
surprised Im speechless:tongue: Im not agreeing or disagreeing,I just don't know what to say.:tongue:


I am merely restating the plans of the man i voted for...
laugh Oh, I thought you had came up with that yourselfhappy I was impressed.happyA person would have to put a lot of thought into coming up with something like that.happy

Drivinmenutz's photo
Mon 11/10/08 03:54 PM




Foriegn Policy -

I would like to see all our troops brought home from everywhere



Cutting back on government spending -

With the troops home we can cut the department of homeland security.

Cut the department of education to let schools evolve to make the most of an education.

The department of energy i swear is making us more dependent on oil. Abolish it, and let future companies pursue their own path to a new energy.

With HMO abolished cost of healthcare would greatly decrease. They don't allow practice of cheap, noninvasive procedures that are proven to do the same job as prescription drugs, without side effects.





With the money freed up from cutting programs and no longer being the world police, we take half, and put it on our deficit, and give the other half back to tax payers...
surprised Im speechless:tongue: Im not agreeing or disagreeing,I just don't know what to say.:tongue:


I am merely restating the plans of the man i voted for...
laugh Oh, I thought you had came up with that yourselfhappy I was impressed.happyA person would have to put a lot of thought into coming up with something like that.happy


Yeah i don't think i could come up with all that on my own...

But i have learned a lot from this candidate though.

Quikstepper's photo
Mon 11/10/08 04:07 PM

Let's see... criminal justice system... taxes.. education.. health care.. the economy - all worthy endeavors, granted.

From whence to all of these things get born? Why, Parents! If it were not for the parents of this society who procreate indiscriminately, want to be their child's FRIEND instead of the PARENT, give the child over to the first system of the "other" who comes along [day care, the streets, schools, courts, etc.] that is willing to take over the tough job of being a real parent.... a lot of these "issues" would take care of their selves.

Instead of looking at what has "become" of our society, perhaps we should look at what has caused our society to get that way in the first place.

Also... as an FYI... I work in an urban HS - I see what our future is, everyday - and I see the people who make it this way [parents]. You can't fix a problem when you're trying to repair the results of the issue - you have to fix the cause, before you can address the result.

IMHO.



yes well I'm all for parents to raise their children in admonision to grow up with self respect & disciplines that will carry them & protect them for the rest of their lives.

I have to say tho...a loose society doen't make it easy for parents either. The sexual revolution etc etc also contributes to desensitizing kids into doing things they should not be doing. There is also too much violence on TV as well. What about drugs on the street?

Something should be done about the external influences as well.


tiamabreid's photo
Mon 11/10/08 04:26 PM
QS: yes well I'm all for parents to raise their children in admonision to grow up with self respect & disciplines that will carry them & protect them for the rest of their lives.

I have to say tho...a loose society doen't make it easy for parents either. The sexual revolution etc etc also contributes to desensitizing kids into doing things they should not be doing. There is also too much violence on TV as well. What about drugs on the street?

Something should be done about the external influences as well.



Many influences tie into this problem. Like you said, desensitizing is a main problem.

My children's school is one of the few that still have consequence for action at the elementary level. Hate to mention it, but the "no child left behind" had quite a bit to do with the problems we are having with our education. Test scores may be higher, but now we don't even know if those high test scores were really earned or not.

Though I agree that children should have the ability to learn and given all the resources to do the best they can, I don't think the way to pass a child through school is to boost test scores (not because the children necessarily did better) and to let children slip through even when they don't pass a class.

Tina


mnhiker's photo
Mon 11/10/08 04:30 PM
Change begins with you.

You can't expect the government to do everything.

It's just disappointing that they are bailing out big corporations before even considering the hard working poor and middle class, who play by the rules and get shafted anyway.

Drew07_2's photo
Mon 11/10/08 04:31 PM
Edited by Drew07_2 on Mon 11/10/08 04:33 PM

maybe when people in North America start looking at issues like housing, education, healtcare, and a dignified standard of living for all as RIGHTS instead of PRIVILEDGES then you really will see some fundamental changes in your country.

flowerforyou


Well, perhaps when our Constitution views all of those things as rights there will be some legislation behind them. We have very few "rights" in our nation and I am thankful for that every day. That allows me the opportunity to go out and earn the rest.

-Drew

Lynann's photo
Mon 11/10/08 04:38 PM
Change definitely begins with the individual. Kennedy was onto something when he said, "Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country."


no photo
Mon 11/10/08 04:43 PM
Edited by Unknow on Mon 11/10/08 04:52 PM

QS: yes well I'm all for parents to raise their children in admonision to grow up with self respect & disciplines that will carry them & protect them for the rest of their lives.

I have to say tho...a loose society doen't make it easy for parents either. The sexual revolution etc etc also contributes to desensitizing kids into doing things they should not be doing. There is also too much violence on TV as well. What about drugs on the street?

Something should be done about the external influences as well.



Many influences tie into this problem. Like you said, desensitizing is a main problem.

My children's school is one of the few that still have consequence for action at the elementary level. Hate to mention it, but the "no child left behind" had quite a bit to do with the problems we are having with our education. Test scores may be higher, but now we don't even know if those high test scores were really earned or not.

Though I agree that children should have the ability to learn and given all the resources to do the best they can, I don't think the way to pass a child through school is to boost test scores (not because the children necessarily did better) and to let children slip through even when they don't pass a class.

Tina


No child left behind was good in theroy but failed as fact. Accountability at local and state would help more than anything. People should start questioning "books" on alot of things. The Lottery is one thing that comes to mind. Sold to states as a way to help "Fund" the schools. There seems to be more cuts than savings! Where is the money? Show me!!!! Edit: That silence you hear is from your State with nothing to say!!!!

cutelildevilsmom's photo
Mon 11/10/08 06:17 PM


QS: yes well I'm all for parents to raise their children in admonision to grow up with self respect & disciplines that will carry them & protect them for the rest of their lives.

I have to say tho...a loose society doen't make it easy for parents either. The sexual revolution etc etc also contributes to desensitizing kids into doing things they should not be doing. There is also too much violence on TV as well. What about drugs on the street?

Something should be done about the external influences as well.



Many influences tie into this problem. Like you said, desensitizing is a main problem.

My children's school is one of the few that still have consequence for action at the elementary level. Hate to mention it, but the "no child left behind" had quite a bit to do with the problems we are having with our education. Test scores may be higher, but now we don't even know if those high test scores were really earned or not.

Though I agree that children should have the ability to learn and given all the resources to do the best they can, I don't think the way to pass a child through school is to boost test scores (not because the children necessarily did better) and to let children slip through even when they don't pass a class.

Tina


No child left behind was good in theroy but failed as fact. Accountability at local and state would help more than anything. People should start questioning "books" on alot of things. The Lottery is one thing that comes to mind. Sold to states as a way to help "Fund" the schools. There seems to be more cuts than savings! Where is the money? Show me!!!! Edit: That silence you hear is from your State with nothing to say!!!!

Yeah and why is civics not taught in school?

cutelildevilsmom's photo
Mon 11/10/08 06:22 PM


QS: yes well I'm all for parents to raise their children in admonision to grow up with self respect & disciplines that will carry them & protect them for the rest of their lives.

I have to say tho...a loose society doen't make it easy for parents either. The sexual revolution etc etc also contributes to desensitizing kids into doing things they should not be doing. There is also too much violence on TV as well. What about drugs on the street?

Something should be done about the external influences as well.



Many influences tie into this problem. Like you said, desensitizing is a main problem.

My children's school is one of the few that still have consequence for action at the elementary level. Hate to mention it, but the "no child left behind" had quite a bit to do with the problems we are having with our education. Test scores may be higher, but now we don't even know if those high test scores were really earned or not.

Though I agree that children should have the ability to learn and given all the resources to do the best they can, I don't think the way to pass a child through school is to boost test scores (not because the children necessarily did better) and to let children slip through even when they don't pass a class.

Tina


No child left behind was good in theroy but failed as fact. Accountability at local and state would help more than anything. People should start questioning "books" on alot of things. The Lottery is one thing that comes to mind. Sold to states as a way to help "Fund" the schools. There seems to be more cuts than savings! Where is the money? Show me!!!! Edit: That silence you hear is from your State with nothing to say!!!!

In NH you would hear crickets.

Drivinmenutz's photo
Tue 11/11/08 09:52 AM

Change begins with you.

You can't expect the government to do everything.

It's just disappointing that they are bailing out big corporations before even considering the hard working poor and middle class, who play by the rules and get shafted anyway.


drinker drinker drinker drinker

It shows who our congress for the most part, and our new president, as well as the former president, really supports. It's all about corporations. Not the little ones, but the huge pharmacutical companies, and a small handful of multibillion dollar businesses.

This is why i preach cutting back on our government. Government expansion is not a good thing...

Quikstepper's photo
Tue 11/11/08 10:33 AM

Change begins with you.

You can't expect the government to do everything.

It's just disappointing that they are bailing out big corporations before even considering the hard working poor and middle class, who play by the rules and get shafted anyway.



I agree here... I kills me that they keep bailing out the wealthy & the banks. It sickens me...

AdventureBegins's photo
Tue 11/11/08 10:42 AM

Change definitely begins with the individual. Kennedy was onto something when he said, "Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country."



in accordance with our shrinking realities...
Country has become World.

Humanity...

what are you willing to do for ALL.

Fit2bFunVB's photo
Tue 11/11/08 11:11 AM


Change definitely begins with the individual. Kennedy was onto something when he said, "Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country."



in accordance with our shrinking realities...
Country has become World.

Humanity...

what are you willing to do for ALL.


I am willing to face adolescents everyday who come to school hungry, angry, illiterate, rude, disrespectful, and crying out for someone who cares enough to love them anyway.

It might not be much to some, but it means the world to them.

Lynann's photo
Tue 11/11/08 11:17 AM
Civics aren't taught in school because politicians really don't want an informed and active electorate.

Oh and because some people are too stupid to realize you can teach children the processes of government without being political. So they freak out about the children being indoctrinated and opt for total ignorance of the process.

That's evident on these boards.

AdventureBegins's photo
Tue 11/11/08 11:17 AM



Change definitely begins with the individual. Kennedy was onto something when he said, "Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country."



in accordance with our shrinking realities...
Country has become World.

Humanity...

what are you willing to do for ALL.


I am willing to face adolescents everyday who come to school hungry, angry, illiterate, rude, disrespectful, and crying out for someone who cares enough to love them anyway.

It might not be much to some, but it means the world to them.

If you are satisfied with what you have done for them... You are in the right place and doing the right thing.


Quikstepper's photo
Tue 11/11/08 03:52 PM



Change definitely begins with the individual. Kennedy was onto something when he said, "Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country."



in accordance with our shrinking realities...
Country has become World.

Humanity...

what are you willing to do for ALL.


I am willing to face adolescents everyday who come to school hungry, angry, illiterate, rude, disrespectful, and crying out for someone who cares enough to love them anyway.

It might not be much to some, but it means the world to them.



Everyone needs affirmation... teaching is an honorable profession. My hat's off to you dear girl. drinker drinker

Fit2bFunVB's photo
Fri 11/14/08 12:38 AM


If you are satisfied with what you have done for them... You are in the right place and doing the right thing.




At the end of each day, I ask myself if I've made a positive difference in a child's life that day... I've yet to answer that question with "no"..

Quikstepper: Thanks!

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