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Topic: Felons? not citizens bs
thePatriot's photo
Tue 11/04/08 11:45 PM
i know its odd to think about this or say this but i believe that felons still have rights they are still Americans so after they serve there time why dose our govt. continue to turn there lives into hell? not allowed to vote or own a gun?
i was just thinkin about it that would be enough to turn a red blooded American commie or suicidal, or they would have to turn to crime to get there rights back on there own.

i totally respect any one labeled criminal or felon that has served there time if they have remorse for what they had done or proclaim their innocents , i mean unless the felony involved a firearm and some one being shot with that firearm like a innocent person then i believe all there rights should be intact.

no photo
Tue 11/04/08 11:46 PM
errr

polaritybear's photo
Tue 11/04/08 11:48 PM
I guess, although there are many felonies that one can commit without the use of a gun.

thePatriot's photo
Tue 11/04/08 11:49 PM

I guess, although there are many felonies that one can commit without the use of a gun.


i know but i am saying they still wont allow you to own one with most felony charges that dont involve firearms.

polaritybear's photo
Tue 11/04/08 11:53 PM


I guess, although there are many felonies that one can commit without the use of a gun.


i know but i am saying they still wont allow you to own one with most felony charges that dont involve firearms.


I suppose if you really really wanted a gun then that might upset you.

thePatriot's photo
Tue 11/04/08 11:57 PM



I guess, although there are many felonies that one can commit without the use of a gun.


i know but i am saying they still wont allow you to own one with most felony charges that dont involve firearms.


I suppose if you really really wanted a gun then that might upset you.


or if you wanted to take advantage of the fact that your american and that geroge washington wanted you to own one.
along with ben franklin, or the fact that it is morally wrong u wouldnt beable to considering it is a right that is deniable to no man by no man.

polaritybear's photo
Wed 11/05/08 12:05 AM




I guess, although there are many felonies that one can commit without the use of a gun.


i know but i am saying they still wont allow you to own one with most felony charges that dont involve firearms.


I suppose if you really really wanted a gun then that might upset you.


or if you wanted to take advantage of the fact that your american and that geroge washington wanted you to own one.
along with ben franklin, or the fact that it is morally wrong u wouldnt beable to considering it is a right that is deniable to no man by no man.


Not too concerned as to what "geroge" washington wanted me to do seeing as how he was president 200 years ago and a few things have changed since then.

Please re-write everything after the comma and make it understandable.

Winx's photo
Wed 11/05/08 12:06 AM
Edited by Winx on Wed 11/05/08 12:06 AM


I guess, although there are many felonies that one can commit without the use of a gun.


i know but i am saying they still wont allow you to own one with most felony charges that dont involve firearms.


I guess that it just shows that there are consequences to every behavior. Abide by the rules and you don't have to worry about it. JMO.



thePatriot's photo
Wed 11/05/08 12:08 AM



I guess, although there are many felonies that one can commit without the use of a gun.


i know but i am saying they still wont allow you to own one with most felony charges that dont involve firearms.


I guess that it just shows that there are consequences to every behavior. Abide by the rules and you don't have to worry about it. JMO.





well sometimes things happen by accident or in a moment of tiem that dont represent some ones heart but then they get there rights striped away for ever that's more of a crime than any felony,we are still humans.

that oh dont do anything wrong and you dont have to worry thing is abunch bs in this time in age everything is a crime, its so ****ing oppressive.

Winx's photo
Wed 11/05/08 07:06 AM




I guess, although there are many felonies that one can commit without the use of a gun.


i know but i am saying they still wont allow you to own one with most felony charges that dont involve firearms.


I guess that it just shows that there are consequences to every behavior. Abide by the rules and you don't have to worry about it. JMO.





well sometimes things happen by accident or in a moment of tiem that dont represent some ones heart but then they get there rights striped away for ever that's more of a crime than any felony,we are still humans.

that oh dont do anything wrong and you dont have to worry thing is abunch bs in this time in age everything is a crime, its so ****ing oppressive.



So...you think crimes happen on accident. That's quite an interesting concept.

And you think that everything is a crime? You must be having a rough time.laugh

MsCarmen's photo
Wed 11/05/08 07:14 AM
I don't know if you are aware of this or not, but you can petition to get those rights back. Personally, I'm against reinstating a person's right to bear arms when they are convicted of a felony. That just scares the he!l out of me. But that's just me.

As far as the right to vote, I agree with you. I don't believe the right to vote should be taken away from anyone! But, if your right is taken away because of being convicted of a felony, I believe that you should, at the very least, be given that right back freely when your time is served, without having to beg for it.

Seriously, what harm can be done by letting a felon vote? They have an opinion, and they have the right to have that opinion heard!

daniel48706's photo
Wed 11/05/08 07:33 AM
I think the first thing we need to do is find out exactly what rights are kept removed once you are free from incarceration, and have done all parole time, etc.

I agree you should have voting rights reinstated AFTER you are done with all your incarceration, etc. Firearms, I would say case by case issue. Are there any other rights that are not given to a freed felon?

BrandonJItaliano's photo
Wed 11/05/08 07:36 AM
Why does 1 imperfect human being have the right to take away another imperfect humans rights?


I think rights should be 4everyone ill regards to actions.

daniel48706's photo
Wed 11/05/08 08:25 AM

Why does 1 imperfect human being have the right to take away another imperfect humans rights?


I think rights should be 4everyone ill regards to actions.


no. not while imprisoned, and if you have shown yourself to be dangerous to humanity with a firearm, then I would have to say no more firearms (yes I know that wouldnot prevent you, but we should still not enable you either).

no photo
Wed 11/05/08 08:41 AM

i know its odd to think about this or say this but i believe that felons still have rights they are still Americans so after they serve there time why dose our govt. continue to turn there lives into hell? not allowed to vote or own a gun?
i was just thinkin about it that would be enough to turn a red blooded American commie or suicidal, or they would have to turn to crime to get there rights back on there own.

i totally respect any one labeled criminal or felon that has served there time if they have remorse for what they had done or proclaim their innocents , i mean unless the felony involved a firearm and some one being shot with that firearm like a innocent person then i believe all there rights should be intact.


People know what the consequences are if they get caught. It isn't a surprise.

lilith401's photo
Wed 11/05/08 09:12 AM
Hmmm. frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated

In Ohio, felons can vote and serve on juries, they just cannot own a gun. Get your facts straight, OP.

BrandonJItaliano's photo
Wed 11/05/08 09:14 AM
Look at Ted Stevens, u can be a convicted Felon and serve in Government, but u cant vote? That really really doesnt make any sense!

lilith401's photo
Wed 11/05/08 09:19 AM

Look at Ted Stevens, u can be a convicted Felon and serve in Government, but u cant vote? That really really doesnt make any sense!


You can vote as a felon!!!!!!!

frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated

beachbum069's photo
Wed 11/05/08 09:32 AM
In MA a felon can vote unless he's in jail. A felon can own a gun after 5 years if he gets his case reviewed by a state board.

thePatriot's photo
Wed 11/05/08 09:45 AM
Edited by thePatriot on Wed 11/05/08 09:45 AM


Look at Ted Stevens, u can be a convicted Felon and serve in Government, but u cant vote? That really really doesnt make any sense!


You can vote as a felon!!!!!!!

frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated frustrated


not when i read up on it...

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