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There is a program on tonight on the Discovery Channel about the tens of thousands of UFO sightings that have been reported. They are saying 9:00p.m. but with time zones I don't know when you might see it. Not a believer in Aliens? Watch tonight! They are here!! all I see is the "Nazi Ufo Conspiracy" is that the program you are referring to |
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There is a program on tonight on the Discovery Channel about the tens of thousands of UFO sightings that have been reported. They are saying 9:00p.m. but with time zones I don't know when you might see it. Not a believer in Aliens? Watch tonight! They are here!! all I see is the "Nazi Ufo Conspiracy" is that the program you are referring to I think that is the one. I can't recommend it cause I've never seen it. It could turn out to be a bunch of crap. When UFO's started showing up a lot during world war II our side thought the Nazi's had some sort of secret craft, and they thought we did. The rumors in the UFO community are that the Aliens wanted to make a deal with one of the powerful countries in the world and if that country would cooperate with them, they would help that country win the war against the other one, and become the most powerful country on the earth. If I remember right, one of the first UFO crashes was in Russia. The show will probably go over some of that historical stuff. Anyway a lot of UFO's were seen during world war II. |
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Jeanniebean
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Well I watched the show on UFO's but there was no "new" information there.
The most shocking piece of information was not about UFO's at all, but about "Operation Paper Clip" where literally "thousands" of Nazi scientists were smuggled out of Germany and given new identities and jobs in America. Hans Kamler was the name of the guy who was supposed to be in charge of the technology. Of course "Operation Paper Clip" is not really news to me or a big secret but its just not well known or often spoken about by your average American citizen who fought in world war II. Many people who support George Bush (and the Bush family) don't realize that Prescott Bush was involved with helping to fund Hitler in the early stages. Now you hear them admit in this show that "thousands" of top German Nazi scientists (and doctors) were given jobs and new identities in America in this SECRET OPERATION. (And people seem outraged when Bush is compared to Hitler.) Duh! You also know that thousands of German soldiers were mistreated and allowed to die in our own concentration camps even after the war under Eisenhower. True accounts of this can be found in our own newspaper records. Now in light of this information, other information I have read about the escape of top Nazi leaders (including Hitler himself) ~to south America does not seem so difficult to believe. This show talks about the tracing of top Nazi scientists to South America too, and the increased sightings of UFO's in South America. It is obvious that someone was manipulating both sides of this conflict we call world war II. But the idea that Germany had this kind of (UFO) technology is absurd. If they had, they would have won the war hands down....unless they all just turned traitor to their own country suddenly for some reason. Operation Paper Clip assures us that the top Nazi's were given safe passage out of Germany and the war. This show states that these Nazi "scientists" were "good Germans" and that they became "good Americans." Oh Really? How many "good German soldiers" and "good American soldiers" fought and died in that war only for it to end with a secret joining of forces between Nazi's and our own American government. That is outrageous! Who do they think they are kidding? Some faction in our own Government (The Bush Family included) were involved with Germany from the very beginning, and in the end of the war, they rescued and gave safe haven to the top people in the Nazi party. Sounds very fishy to me. So this show is trying to imply that UFO's originate from Germany. This is a bunch of crap. UFO's have been seen long before world war II. Deals were made with aliens as to who would be getting the technology, and who would win the war, and scientists were spared and given new identities and relocated to America. This last part they freely admitted. Why would they do that? The Nazi's were supposed to be our enemy. Now we adopt their top people? Including heir ghoulish doctors who did inhumane experiments on prisoners? And they are so sure nobody cares and nobody can do anything about it anyway, they just put the information out there for anyone to find. This also makes sense with the information David Icke had about how Hitler was under the control of the reptilians. He also has the Bush family influenced by the reptilians. Well it seems like they were inciting war for the spoils of war like they always do. Reptilians or not, the Bush family and Hitler seem to have been connected. Not surprising, the Bush family and the Ben Laden family were business partners too. Anyway, if you believe this show, then you are supposed to believe that all this stuff about aliens and UFO's is just disinformation put out by the CIA, and that we really got our UFO's from Germany. Yeh right. If the CIA is doing fake abductions, mind control, cattle mutilations, and all that stuff they need to be taken out of business. They should not be believed or supported by this country. The more they try to cover things up the more they reveal about themselves. |
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flying saucers are real.
A man named william cooper learned about them, he wrote a book titled, Behold a pale horse. It is on Utube, People who are serious about what is going on with flying sausers should listen it. |
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Well the information asks us to believe that Humans (The Nazi's ~ and now us) have this advanced technology and are keeping it all very secret and underground and that they have advanced weapons and flying machines that disappear, hide from radar, and travel at impossible speeds. Huh? Why hide it? What are they really hiding? I will tell you. They are hiding the aliens. Period. |
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flying saucers are real. A man named william cooper learned about them, he wrote a book titled, Behold a pale horse. It is on Utube, People who are serious about what is going on with flying sausers should listen it. 
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WWII Ended in 1945.
The first flying saucer was sighted in 1947. The US captured two German anti-gravity experiments during / immediately after WWII. According to eye-witnesses, both experiments were successful. One was saucer shaped and one was bell shaped. I watched a documentary on it last night. There is ample evidence that the US started testing WWII designed anti-gravity aircraft of German design and created the story of UFOs and aliens to cover up their top secret tests. Eventually, we will all know the truth, until then, I'm not losing any sleep. |
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WWII Ended in 1945. The first flying saucer was sighted in 1947. The US captured two German anti-gravity experiments during / immediately after WWII. According to eye-witnesses, both experiments were successful. One was saucer shaped and one was bell shaped. I watched a documentary on it last night. There is ample evidence that the US started testing WWII designed anti-gravity aircraft of German design and created the story of UFOs and aliens to cover up their top secret tests.[/quotoe] Eventually, we will all know the truth, until then, I'm not losing any sleep. I believe these paticular UFO's mentioned in this program (which I recorded) were seen during world war II by the men flying bombing missions. They were called (nicknamed) "Foo fighters." What disturbs me most is Project Paper Clip. Thousands of Nazi's went to work for our country and the CIA. This includes ghoulish doctors who did torturous experiments on human beings. http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/operationpaperclip.htm Project Paperclip (started in 1945) was stopped in 1957, when West Germany protested to the U.S. that these efforts had stripped it of "scientific skills." There was no comment about supporting Nazis. Paperclip may have ended in 1957, but as you can see from Licio Gelli and his international dealings with the CIA in Italy/P2, and Heinrich Rupp with his involvement in October Surprise, the ramifications of Paperclip are world-wide. The Nazis became employed CIA agents, engaging in clandestine work with the likes of George Bush, the CIA, Henry Kissinger, and the Masonic P2 lodge. This is but one of the results of Operation Paperclip. Another umbrella project that was spawned from Paperclip was MK-ULTRA. The Bush connection to Hitler: In October 1942, ten months after entering World War II, America was preparing its first assault against Nazi military forces. Prescott Bush was managing partner of Brown Brothers Harriman. His 18-year-old son George, the future U.S. President, had just begun training to become a naval pilot. On Oct. 20, 1942, the U.S. government ordered the seizure of Nazi German banking operations in New York City which were being conducted by Prescott Bush. Under the Trading with the Enemy Act, the government took over the Union Banking Corporation, in which Prescott Bush was a director. The U.S. Alien Property Custodian seized Union Banking Corp.'s stock shares, all of which were owned by Prescott Bush, E. Roland `` Bunny '' Harriman, three Nazi executives, and two other associates of Bush. By Oct. 26, 1942, U.S. troops were under way for North Africa. On Oct. 28, the government issued orders seizing two Nazi front organizations run by the Bush-Harriman bank: the Holland-American Trading Corporation and the Seamless Steel Equipment Corporation. ( http://www.tarpley.net/bush2.htm ) |
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the first or oldest ufo sighting was in aurora texas 1897, long before roswel or hitler or flying macines[airplanes] or anything but balloons, this craft was cylindrical in shape according to the witnesses and had an occupant that was "not of this world" and was buried their in the gravyard later in 73 someone stole the brave marker so now know one knows where it is and the rown will not allow anyone to dig up the place so we will never know most likely.
the importence of this case as is stated was before 1903 when the first wright Bros. plane was flown. could it be a hoax? of course, but the evidence and living witnesses that saw it were still alive in 73 to be interviewed, to me it is one of the best cases for ufo,s on record. but that's my opinion. There are older accounts of ufo's dating back to 850 ad, and of course ealier accounts of things in the sky but not called ufos - why all the reports of this kind would be done and kept over the centuries if not seen? does it "prove" anything? of course not, but to throw it out for lack of proof is only allowing ones self to eliminate the possabilty of what could or may be. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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The odd agenda occurring with Hitler was the creation of a "master race" which is a human body with fair skin, blue eyes and blond hair.
Why might you imagine would anyone have this kind of agenda? Does this make any sense to a typical human being? And why would it? What would be the purpose of this? Human beings are born and then they die. (Or so we are taught via most religions.) Why should any of them care about designing a master race? The only purpose would be that someone is genetically breeding and manipulating the human stock on earth for some purpose and there is no logical reason for a human being to be doing such a thing if they have only one life to live and then they die. The galaxy aliens, on the other hand, (who think they are gods) know about reincarnation and they are and have been attempting to design a "master race" so they can incarnate and begin to occupy these bodies as their own, rather than their current scaly primitive reptilian forms. While there seems to be no purpose for the creation of a master race, there seems to be a contest going on, (even in the Bible) that involves genes and the survival of the decedents of certain races and bloodlines, particularly Adam and Eve. Is this about the design and improvement of the human race or human form for the purpose of incarnating into it? This would make no sense at all for people who have been taught that there is no such thing as reincarnation. But without this part of the puzzle it makes no sense at all to design a master race and attempt to destroy what is considered "inferior" or less desired races. Don't kid yourself into thinking that these factions have given up on creating a "master race." They are still working at it in hidden genetic labs. The film I watched last night would have people believe that the Germans had this very advanced technology and that we, the Americans, took it from them, and that this explains the many UFO sightings going on then and now. Bull. I do believe that there is technology on this earth that is far advanced than you think. Humans might have a tiny amount of it in their hands but certainly not enough to explain the sightings of UFO's that have been seen and documented. If the government wants to confess that they are behind all of this UFO stuff then they would also have to confess that they have been abducting human beings and doing experiments on them also. There are thousands of reports of these events. So I don't buy the propaganda that is implied in this production that suggests that this technology was captured from the Germans." Hell no. I do, however, take notice of their revealing of the top secret operation "Paper Clip" where our own government joined forces with these evil Nazi forces who experimented on human beings for the sake of the creation of their "master race." This evil science dehumanizes us and views some humans no better than animals, and other humans as superior. These Nazi forces are growing and thriving in South America, using drugs and guns as their currency. The eventual opening of our borders to Mexico and South America will open up a huge can of worms. It will be the Fourth Reich alive and well. From Wikipedia: In his book, "The Rise of the Fourth Reich: The Secret Societies That Threaten to Take Over America", Jim Marrs argues that some surviving members of Germany's Third Reich, along with sympathizers in the United States and elsewhere, given safe haven by organizations like ODESSA and Die Spinne, have been working behind the scenes since the end of World War II to insinuate at least some of the principles of Nazism (militarism, fascism, conquest, widespread spying on citizens, use of corporations and propaganda to control national interests and ideas, etc.) into culture, government, and business worldwide, but primarily in the United States. He cites the influence of Nazis brought into the United States at the end of World War II, such as Nazi scientists brought in under Operation Paperclip to help advance aerospace in the US, as having had influence in ways not expected by some involved in the original operation, and the acquisition and creation of conglomerates by Nazis and their sympathizers after the war, in both Europe and the US. |
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The odd agenda occurring with Hitler was the creation of a "master race" which is a human body with fair skin, blue eyes and blond hair. Why might you imagine would anyone have this kind of agenda? Does this make any sense to a typical human being? And why would it? What would be the purpose of this? Human beings are born and then they die. (Or so we are taught via most religions.) Why should any of them care about designing a master race? The only purpose would be that someone is genetically breeding and manipulating the human stock on earth for some purpose and there is no logical reason for a human being to be doing such a thing if they have only one life to live and then they die. The galaxy aliens, on the other hand, (who think they are gods) know about reincarnation and they are and have been attempting to design a "master race" so they can incarnate and begin to occupy these bodies as their own, rather than their current scaly primitive reptilian forms. While there seems to be no purpose for the creation of a master race, there seems to be a contest going on, (even in the Bible) that involves genes and the survival of the decedents of certain races and bloodlines, particularly Adam and Eve. Is this about the design and improvement of the human race or human form for the purpose of incarnating into it? This would make no sense at all for people who have been taught that there is no such thing as reincarnation. But without this part of the puzzle it makes no sense at all to design a master race and attempt to destroy what is considered "inferior" or less desired races. Don't kid yourself into thinking that these factions have given up on creating a "master race." They are still working at it in hidden genetic labs. The film I watched last night would have people believe that the Germans had this very advanced technology and that we, the Americans, took it from them, and that this explains the many UFO sightings going on then and now. Bull. I do believe that there is technology on this earth that is far advanced than you think. Humans might have a tiny amount of it in their hands but certainly not enough to explain the sightings of UFO's that have been seen and documented. If the government wants to confess that they are behind all of this UFO stuff then they would also have to confess that they have been abducting human beings and doing experiments on them also. There are thousands of reports of these events. So I don't buy the propaganda that is implied in this production that suggests that this technology was captured from the Germans." Hell no. I do, however, take notice of their revealing of the top secret operation "Paper Clip" where our own government joined forces with these evil Nazi forces who experimented on human beings for the sake of the creation of their "master race." This evil science dehumanizes us and views some humans no better than animals, and other humans as superior. These Nazi forces are growing and thriving in South America, using drugs and guns as their currency. The eventual opening of our borders to Mexico and South America will open up a huge can of worms. It will be the Fourth Reich alive and well. From Wikipedia: In his book, "The Rise of the Fourth Reich: The Secret Societies That Threaten to Take Over America", Jim Marrs argues that some surviving members of Germany's Third Reich, along with sympathizers in the United States and elsewhere, given safe haven by organizations like ODESSA and Die Spinne, have been working behind the scenes since the end of World War II to insinuate at least some of the principles of Nazism (militarism, fascism, conquest, widespread spying on citizens, use of corporations and propaganda to control national interests and ideas, etc.) into culture, government, and business worldwide, but primarily in the United States. He cites the influence of Nazis brought into the United States at the end of World War II, such as Nazi scientists brought in under Operation Paperclip to help advance aerospace in the US, as having had influence in ways not expected by some involved in the original operation, and the acquisition and creation of conglomerates by Nazis and their sympathizers after the war, in both Europe and the US.  I will take this information under consideration JB, thank you
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Wed 11/05/08 08:54 AM
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The Red and the White Dragons
The influences of the Red Dragon (the draco who rebelled) and the white dragon (the Galaxy Draconian queen in power) are represented by two main (human) factions on the earth who are in a constant battle for wealth and power. I am guessing that The Nazi movement is the red dragon cult and the Zionist movement is the white dragon cult. Neither of these factions are very nice. Both are influenced by the Draconians. Humans involved and manipulated are the pawns. Humans are bought and sold and bribed and extorted, brainwashed and blackmailed etc. to go along with these two agendas. To get caught up in either one is not a good thing. They are both very ruthless players in the game. (Most of the humans involved don't really have a clue what is going on, they are just trying to survive.) |
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I believe these paticular UFO's mentioned in this program (which I recorded) were seen during world war II by the men flying bombing missions. They were called (nicknamed) "Foo fighters." They weren't seen until the end of WWII and they were only seen over Berlin. The appearance of the foo fighters was after the time when the German scientists claimed to have successfully built flying saucers. The Germans rethought what science was and developed anti-gravity devices. There are no aliens, just advanced science. |
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I believe these paticular UFO's mentioned in this program (which I recorded) were seen during world war II by the men flying bombing missions. They were called (nicknamed) "Foo fighters." They weren't seen until the end of WWII and they were only seen over Berlin. The appearance of the foo fighters was after the time when the German scientists claimed to have successfully built flying saucers. The Germans rethought what science was and developed anti-gravity devices. There are no aliens, just advanced science. Well that is what they want people to believe Spider. Apparently they still have some people convinced. But other evidence does not support this line of thought. I wish you could prove you were right. Let's just assume you are correct, and there are no aliens at all. Nothing but us humans. Explain the logic behind creating the "master race." Explain thousands of abductions. Explain thousands of complicated crop circles. Explain thousands of UFO sightings before and after world was II that don't match this "German Technology." Explain the probs and orbs that have been witnessed. Explain the cattle mutilations and the Militaries involvement in that. Why did they just pick up the cattle and take them away and you never heard from them again. Many lame and ridiculous explanations can be thought up but they don't add up in the total picture. |
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The Red and the White Dragons The influences of the Red Dragon (the draco who rebelled) and the white dragon (the Galaxy Draconian queen in power) are represented by two main (human) factions on the earth who are in a constant battle for wealth and power. I am guessing that The Nazi movement is the red dragon cult and the Zionist movement is the white dragon cult. Neither of these factions are very nice. Both are influenced by the Draconians. Humans involved and manipulated are the pawns. Humans are bought and sold and bribed and extorted, brainwashed and blackmailed etc. to go along with these two agendas. To get caught up in either one is not a good thing. They are both very ruthless players in the game. (Most of the humans involved don't really have a clue what is going on, they are just trying to survive.)  Very interesting
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I believe these paticular UFO's mentioned in this program (which I recorded) were seen during world war II by the men flying bombing missions. They were called (nicknamed) "Foo fighters." They weren't seen until the end of WWII and they were only seen over Berlin. The appearance of the foo fighters was after the time when the German scientists claimed to have successfully built flying saucers. The Germans rethought what science was and developed anti-gravity devices. There are no aliens, just advanced science.  German anti-gravity devices?
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Edited by
MirrorMirror
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I believe these paticular UFO's mentioned in this program (which I recorded) were seen during world war II by the men flying bombing missions. They were called (nicknamed) "Foo fighters." They weren't seen until the end of WWII and they were only seen over Berlin. The appearance of the foo fighters was after the time when the German scientists claimed to have successfully built flying saucers. The Germans rethought what science was and developed anti-gravity devices. There are no aliens, just advanced science. Well that is what they want people to believe Spider. Apparently they still have some people convinced. But other evidence does not support this line of thought. I wish you could prove you were right. Let's just assume you are correct, and there are no aliens at all. Nothing but us humans. Explain the logic behind creating the "master race." Explain thousands of abductions. Explain thousands of complicated crop circles. Explain thousands of UFO sightings before and after world was II that don't match this "German Technology." Explain the probs and orbs that have been witnessed. Explain the cattle mutilations and the Militaries involvement in that. Why did they just pick up the cattle and take them away and you never heard from them again. Many lame and ridiculous explanations can be thought up but they don't add up in the total picture.  I see your point JB,I'll keep that in mind.
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