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In your opinion, what formula should be used in determining howmuch child support gets paid from the non-custodial parent?
Also, if, like in New York, a parent agrees to give up all parental rights to the child(ren), should they be exempt from paying support as well? |
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I don't care.... I just want him to pay the $14,000 that he owe!
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MA has a pretty basic and fair form for determining child support. It pretty much takes both incomes totals them up and splits the cost. It takes out such stuff as insurance and other stuff if the non-custodial parents pays them.
If a parent gives up all rights to their child they have issues. They should still pay support though. |
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I don't care.... I just want him to pay the $14,000 that he owe! Ouch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Edited by
tanyaann
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Fri 10/31/08 08:14 AM
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I don't care.... I just want him to pay the $14,000 that he owe! Ouch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yeah I called the office the other day for something else and the worker told me what he owed me! but I will never see it! |
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My mom owed my dad over $5000 but since she moved out of state there was no way he could collect the money.
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Edited by
MisKim323
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Fri 10/31/08 08:27 AM
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I don't care.... I just want him to pay the $14,000 that he owe!   In Indiana, the amount is determined by the payor's income...not sure of the percentage...I think it's fair...my ex wanted to sign away his rights in order to avoid child support but found that he would still have to pay so he did not sign away his rights....and never, ever had a weekend , even a day with his kids.....his choice
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I don't care.... I just want him to pay the $14,000 that he owe! exactly! |
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personally, it should be decided according to the median of the area you are living in. For example...
1. average rent (500.00) 2. Average monthly utilities (250; gas budgeted for the winter) 3. Average cost of groceries (food and non-food) (200) 4. Gas for the vehicle (320) 5. Clothing (240 per year/12 months) 6. Misc. i.e. sports, camp, music (100) Now these are all very rough numbers. But add them all up and you get 1390. Lets round it to 1400 a month for easy numbers. Each parent should be required to provide 700 per month, towards everything I mentioned above, as they are basic needs for the children. And it is not right for the custodial parent to have to pay 90% of that amount, just because they have custody. as far as giving up of parental rights to get out of support, I do not agree with that either completely. In the case of adoptioin, yes I woudl agree, but not if one of the parents has custody and the other doesnt. |
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I have an old friend who gave up all rights to his child, on the grounds that he felt the child would be better off without him around. And considering he was looking at prison time for te next possible 20 years (he ended up being found to be innocent after all), i can understand his not wanting the child to be told about him. Personally htough he should still have been required to pay support.
MA has a pretty basic and fair form for determining child support. It pretty much takes both incomes totals them up and splits the cost. It takes out such stuff as insurance and other stuff if the non-custodial parents pays them. If a parent gives up all rights to their child they have issues. They should still pay support though. |
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personally, it should be decided according to the median of the area you are living in. For example... 1. average rent (500.00) 2. Average monthly utilities (250; gas budgeted for the winter) 3. Average cost of groceries (food and non-food) (200) 4. Gas for the vehicle (320) 5. Clothing (240 per year/12 months) 6. Misc. i.e. sports, camp, music (100) Now these are all very rough numbers. But add them all up and you get 1390. Lets round it to 1400 a month for easy numbers. Each parent should be required to provide 700 per month, towards everything I mentioned above, as they are basic needs for the children. And it is not right for the custodial parent to have to pay 90% of that amount, just because they have custody. as far as giving up of parental rights to get out of support, I do not agree with that either completely. In the case of adoptioin, yes I woudl agree, but not if one of the parents has custody and the other doesnt. The formula in MA considers state averages for expenses. |
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In your opinion, what formula should be used in determining howmuch child support gets paid from the non-custodial parent? Also, if, like in New York, a parent agrees to give up all parental rights to the child(ren), should they be exempt from paying support as well? In Oregon the child support enforcement is based on a percentage that the non-custodial parent makes..... Soooo, back in the 80's I received $50.00 a month for 7 years...which didn't buy SH*T!!! Then after that 7 years I was allowed $107.00 until she turned 18. Which again didn't buy SH*T! Now days, my current boyfriend pays $250.00per child...he has two and he only makes $1600.00 a month.....try and live on $1100.00 a month! In my opinion the formula should be what ever your cost of living is, divided in half is what the non-custodial parent should pay! Plus half of all medical bills for the child or children. As for the giving up of your rights to a child.....well there's a special place in H*ll for them! |
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the problem there is state averages does not neccesarilly cover enough for the low income areas and such.
personally, it should be decided according to the median of the area you are living in. For example... 1. average rent (500.00) 2. Average monthly utilities (250; gas budgeted for the winter) 3. Average cost of groceries (food and non-food) (200) 4. Gas for the vehicle (320) 5. Clothing (240 per year/12 months) 6. Misc. i.e. sports, camp, music (100) Now these are all very rough numbers. But add them all up and you get 1390. Lets round it to 1400 a month for easy numbers. Each parent should be required to provide 700 per month, towards everything I mentioned above, as they are basic needs for the children. And it is not right for the custodial parent to have to pay 90% of that amount, just because they have custody. as far as giving up of parental rights to get out of support, I do not agree with that either completely. In the case of adoptioin, yes I woudl agree, but not if one of the parents has custody and the other doesnt. The formula in MA considers state averages for expenses. |
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Why should a person go to h*ll for giving up their parental rights? if that was the case then adoption would be out of the question.
In your opinion, what formula should be used in determining howmuch child support gets paid from the non-custodial parent? Also, if, like in New York, a parent agrees to give up all parental rights to the child(ren), should they be exempt from paying support as well? In Oregon the child support enforcement is based on a percentage that the non-custodial parent makes..... Soooo, back in the 80's I received $50.00 a month for 7 years...which didn't buy SH*T!!! Then after that 7 years I was allowed $107.00 until she turned 18. Which again didn't buy SH*T! Now days, my current boyfriend pays $250.00per child...he has two and he only makes $1600.00 a month.....try and live on $1100.00 a month! In my opinion the formula should be what ever your cost of living is, divided in half is what the non-custodial parent should pay! Plus half of all medical bills for the child or children. As for the giving up of your rights to a child.....well there's a special place in H*ll for them! |
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the problem there is state averages does not neccesarilly cover enough for the low income areas and such. personally, it should be decided according to the median of the area you are living in. For example... 1. average rent (500.00) 2. Average monthly utilities (250; gas budgeted for the winter) 3. Average cost of groceries (food and non-food) (200) 4. Gas for the vehicle (320) 5. Clothing (240 per year/12 months) 6. Misc. i.e. sports, camp, music (100) Now these are all very rough numbers. But add them all up and you get 1390. Lets round it to 1400 a month for easy numbers. Each parent should be required to provide 700 per month, towards everything I mentioned above, as they are basic needs for the children. And it is not right for the custodial parent to have to pay 90% of that amount, just because they have custody. as far as giving up of parental rights to get out of support, I do not agree with that either completely. In the case of adoptioin, yes I woudl agree, but not if one of the parents has custody and the other doesnt. The formula in MA considers state averages for expenses. Using the median for an area has the same fault-I don't see a difference. |
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your payment would be based upon the median of the area you are in, not the average of the whole state, is what I am suggesting. This way if you are in a lower income area (or rather the children are), your payment(s) would be based upon that area instead of say rhode island.
And if hte children moved to a higher priced area, then the payment would be reviewed. And like it is now, you couldnt just move cause you wanted to move etc. You would have to show reason why you are moving the children to where you go; i.e a better job. the problem there is state averages does not neccesarilly cover enough for the low income areas and such. personally, it should be decided according to the median of the area you are living in. For example... 1. average rent (500.00) 2. Average monthly utilities (250; gas budgeted for the winter) 3. Average cost of groceries (food and non-food) (200) 4. Gas for the vehicle (320) 5. Clothing (240 per year/12 months) 6. Misc. i.e. sports, camp, music (100) Now these are all very rough numbers. But add them all up and you get 1390. Lets round it to 1400 a month for easy numbers. Each parent should be required to provide 700 per month, towards everything I mentioned above, as they are basic needs for the children. And it is not right for the custodial parent to have to pay 90% of that amount, just because they have custody. as far as giving up of parental rights to get out of support, I do not agree with that either completely. In the case of adoptioin, yes I woudl agree, but not if one of the parents has custody and the other doesnt. The formula in MA considers state averages for expenses. Using the median for an area has the same fault-I don't see a difference. |
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Why should a person go to h*ll for giving up their parental rights? if that was the case then adoption would be out of the question. In your opinion, what formula should be used in determining howmuch child support gets paid from the non-custodial parent? Also, if, like in New York, a parent agrees to give up all parental rights to the child(ren), should they be exempt from paying support as well? In Oregon the child support enforcement is based on a percentage that the non-custodial parent makes..... Soooo, back in the 80's I received $50.00 a month for 7 years...which didn't buy SH*T!!! Then after that 7 years I was allowed $107.00 until she turned 18. Which again didn't buy SH*T! Now days, my current boyfriend pays $250.00per child...he has two and he only makes $1600.00 a month.....try and live on $1100.00 a month! In my opinion the formula should be what ever your cost of living is, divided in half is what the non-custodial parent should pay! Plus half of all medical bills for the child or children. As for the giving up of your rights to a child.....well there's a special place in H*ll for them! Adoption has nothing to do with a person giving up thier parental rights..... Most of the children in this world are being brought up in a single parent homes and the teen pregnancy rate is out of control in the world!!! What I meant by there is a special place in h*ll for those who give up thier rights, for thier own personal financial gain, hence, not paying child support or being in that childs/childrens life...they have a special place in H*ll.... As for adoption, I completely understand the complications of having to give up a child to a better life if you cannot provide one for them. And then there are those, male and female, who refuse to pay for thier child/childrens upbringing...they are the worst! If you don't want children and just a sexual encounter....there's this new invention called a condom! |
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personally, it should be decided according to the median of the area you are living in. For example... 1. average rent (500.00) 2. Average monthly utilities (250; gas budgeted for the winter) 3. Average cost of groceries (food and non-food) (200) 4. Gas for the vehicle (320) 5. Clothing (240 per year/12 months) 6. Misc. i.e. sports, camp, music (100) Now these are all very rough numbers. But add them all up and you get 1390. Lets round it to 1400 a month for easy numbers. Each parent should be required to provide 700 per month, towards everything I mentioned above, as they are basic needs for the children. And it is not right for the custodial parent to have to pay 90% of that amount, just because they have custody. as far as giving up of parental rights to get out of support, I do not agree with that either completely. In the case of adoptioin, yes I woudl agree, but not if one of the parents has custody and the other doesnt. Average cost of food is $200 - grocery and non-grocery. Are you talking about in a month's time? |
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MI has a formula,
for me it works out to %30 of my income to the ex. |
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your payment would be based upon the median of the area you are in, not the average of the whole state, is what I am suggesting. This way if you are in a lower income area (or rather the children are), your payment(s) would be based upon that area instead of say rhode island. And if hte children moved to a higher priced area, then the payment would be reviewed. And like it is now, you couldnt just move cause you wanted to move etc. You would have to show reason why you are moving the children to where you go; i.e a better job. So what you are trying to say is this...If you decide to live in the pricey places, your ex should be charged for that? I totally disagree with that!! If you decide to live in a high priced place...thats your choice, not your childrens! You are making it sound like its all on your children...You ARE the adult. If you can not afford to pay the bills, then you move somewhere cheaper...ITS JUST THAT SIMPLE!!! |
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