We've heard talk of women's pay being lower than a man's for comparable work. I've also seen in threads that a woman can be branded a queen "*****ola" if she takes a stance and defends it aggressively.

I have theories but I'd like to hear yours. How do we change antiquated perception that a woman can be opinionated and driven without being branded a vigilante?

And heck, how can we also alter perception that a man should NOT be labeled a stool pigeon when functioning as a caretaker for his kids while mom goes to work?

Thoughts??

well its all veyr comlicated, women can be agressive, thats fine, but if shes over opinionated liek alot of men are, or too vulgar or obsessed with sharing her views it can be annoying. or if she completely refuses to see any other side to the story it can be awkward.

im all for women's rights, but what about men's rights too? i wan tot watch ym kids grow up, not do 60 hours a week at work and be too tired to play with them. in the end its a give and take really, women need ot be ok with a little Bs as do men.

There are things that can be solved politically, like equal pay and access to family planning and ending tracking in the school system and all that, but as for the whole cultural issues, I think you have to a. influence the media (there need to be more women on TV, radio, and online speaking out about sexism or just doing their thing; when the media pulls sexist crap, it can't be let off) and b. start from the ground up (that means teaching your girls to be strong and confident, how to stand up for themselves, etc. AND teaching boys to respect women, that taking care of babies and cooking are not "a woman's job", etc.)



Um, what does that have to do with being a man? Women have to work our asses off at the expense of seeing our kids, too--even more, actually, since we're more likely to get stuck being single parents without child support, and since we have to work more to earn as much as a man makes.

Soooooooooooooo....if women made equal pay...maybe the men could afford to work 40 and spend some time with the children

I totally agree with your point (b) pong.

Unfortunately, I have ex-in-laws who want to socialize my kids by "Little House on the Prairie" standards and I am not there enough to off-set it I believe. There's nothing I can do, except support my daughters' right to make their own non-life-threatening decisions and force them to explain WHY they make the decisions they make, so I can guide them accordingly.

My ex-wife's mom and dad didn't talk to her for weeks after she voted for another candidate than them in the last election. That's the kind of crap I don't get.

lol id love equal pay, but equal work is needed. i work with a girl whos been here for 1 year so anturally she makes mroe than me, however she does not work, she sits on the phone all day and doesnt even know how many items we are accountable for. so i say equal pay is great! lol.


as for YOU ping pong. lol. i dont mind a owman making the same so dont bother preaching to me, i think we all need to make more money, i get 10$ an hour and i barely make 20,000 a year,lol.


not ym fault if women are msotly single parents, it happens its a shame, dont bring it up like im bashing women thats offensive to me.

Yeah, that's frustrating. My ex is similar...one of the reasons I left him lol. But I am afraid he's going to pass on his stupid ideas to our son.

I don't know.

Glad you really dug deep for an opinion LJ!!