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Topic: You Won't Believe This
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Wed 10/08/08 08:57 PM
Edited by Frankplus1 on Wed 10/08/08 08:58 PM
I 've got some information I've got to pass along.I was married to THE most wonderful woman,she passed away,but before that we were the best of friends and she would tell me anything.So after 15 years of talk with a woman about what a woman really wants.I've come to the conclusion that what they really want is based on who they are.I've met some sophisticated women that want to be treated like neighborhood whores and vice/versa.But the biggest majority of them want the same thing Respect,passion,honest,trust,and tenderness.Now this also goes for the ones that want to be treated like whores occasionally.That's where you have to knw you're woman/partner.We all want to be bestfriends with our mate.That's kind of a no-brainer.And all men want a woman who's a whore in bed and a lady the rest of the time.Well they're out there and there's probably a bunch here.(Good luck finding them)But guys,women are just as nasty as we are.and I mean about all of them are.I've overheard women talk and it would freak you out.They're just as horney and freaky as we are too.It's really kinda funny and exciting at the same time.The only difference between us and them is they don't NEED it like we think we do.That's the bad part.Otherwise all women would be perfect.Women can use it for you or against you,and thats not fair but it's gods way of saying(You don't have to be the one to give birth).I love women,they are the luckiest of the sexes.They can have multiples,and turn it off like you did'nt do a thing.And they can make you feel like superman any time they want.But,back to what I was getting at.Women are really no different than men when it comes to having a good relationship.All you have to know is iy's a 50/50,give and take thing.Don't expect anything more than what you give.Treat her like a lady,cherish every moment,and remember "Love is the only thing we can take to heaven with us."So,thanks for reading my thoughts and good luck finding each other........Frankwaving

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Wed 10/08/08 09:00 PM
smokin thanks for sharingsmokin

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Wed 10/08/08 09:09 PM
smokin fascinatingsmokin

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Wed 10/08/08 09:14 PM
Thank you Frank...that was nice

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Wed 10/08/08 09:16 PM
CONGRADULATIONS!!!! :banana: You are officially the SMARTEST MAN ALIVE! I think every guy should have to read that before talking to a female LOL! No Joke I hate to admit it but we are pretty darn close to you men slaphead just without the "have to have it" thing but man you got it down FLAT :thumbsup: ! Well thanks for your seeds of wisdome! Wish all men would just get that already no @$$ kissing intended but that was a good one dude!!!!!

FINALLY!!!! A MAN SAID IT!!!!! rofl

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Wed 10/08/08 09:20 PM
Frank.... You nailed it. We women are hard to deal with. I gotta say though, our hormones are a bit more difficult to deal with, but really you are so right. We want the love, respect, dignity, admiration, all the things that are 'right' when it comes to couplehood..... yet we are so fast to use our hormones and roller coaster attitudes as excuses for being very difficult to be with/around.

Understanding each other (as men and women) is a tough thing. But we can do it. There are people out there who are soooo happy, and it's because they are able to understand each other's good qualities and bad qualities. we all have them. And it's sad, but it takes losing someone to realize that what they had, the good and the bad, was what you really wanted.

so first, I applaud you for recognizing these things after losing your wonderful lover...... and second, I thank you for telling it as you see it, which is.. frankly, right on.

As a woman, I want just what you said.... a best friend, respect , honesty, PASSION, trust, and tenderness. and I'm trying to be patient in finding it.

But I wanted to thank you for putting that out there. You give me hope, inspiration, and the ability to be patient, and I just want to say THANK YOU, from the bottom of my heart.

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Wed 10/08/08 09:27 PM
think think woww ,now I can say that you really don't know anything about womans .

allinoell's photo
Wed 10/08/08 09:29 PM

think think woww ,now I can say that you really don't know anything about womans .


beg to differ, REALLY depends on the woman

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Wed 10/08/08 09:29 PM
Edited by itsmetina on Wed 10/08/08 09:30 PM
I'm just wondering how's this positive outlook workin for yasmokin

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Wed 10/08/08 09:33 PM
As a woman, I want just what you said.... a best friend, respect , honesty, PASSION, trust, and tenderness. and I'm trying to be patient in finding it.


That's really what women want then?

Respect.. not so good at...

Honesty.. I'm good on

Passion? passionate about what? I'm passionate about the things i love doing, is that what you mean?

Trust... I'm pretty good on trust, but, I'd rater be untrusting then gullible...

Tenderness... I'm kind, and i have weaknesses, is that good enough?


... any takers? ^_^

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Wed 10/08/08 09:34 PM
he really seems to understand all womensmokin

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Wed 10/08/08 09:47 PM

As a woman, I want just what you said.... a best friend, respect , honesty, PASSION, trust, and tenderness. and I'm trying to be patient in finding it.


That's really what women want then?

Respect.. not so good at...

Honesty.. I'm good on

Passion? passionate about what? I'm passionate about the things i love doing, is that what you mean?

Trust... I'm pretty good on trust, but, I'd rater be untrusting then gullible...

Tenderness... I'm kind, and i have weaknesses, is that good enough?


... any takers? ^_^



Ok lets get to it:
I cannot absolutely speak for all women, but I can speak for those I know and love.
Respect: Disrespect me, and you're gone with the trash.
Honesty: You can be as vile as you want; if I know you're being honest, I'll respect it. Might not like it, might tell you take a hike. but honesty, I'll always respect.
Passion: yes passion about the things in life that you love, but even more so, passion about the one you love. Passion that shows up in lovemaking.
Trust: can't blame you about being weary of being gullible, but with some of us women, if we can't trust you, then why should we bother. That's a matter between two people, to figure out who's trustworthy and who's not. you say you are, I take you at your word. but you say you don't want to be gullible, then I know you'll protect yourself at any cost, which I can't reject, but helps me know you might not be honest all the time.
tenderness: kindness is a turnon, for some of us. it is for me. and actually , your truthfulness about having weaknesses is also attractive. but it you can't be tender and mean it, why should I bother.
speaking in general of course.

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Wed 10/08/08 09:52 PM
He said the word whore way too much.laugh

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Wed 10/08/08 09:54 PM

He said the word whore way too much.laugh


that is a good point, we're not all lookin to be treated like whores. that's very true.

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Wed 10/08/08 10:34 PM
Thanks to responding to me allinoell, i thought I'd just get a few "ewww, no way creep"s



Ok lets get to it:
I cannot absolutely speak for all women, but I can speak for those I know and love.
Respect: Disrespect me, and you're gone with the trash.


That one is difficult for me, i tend to be the dominant one, it's just natural for me, and i have a hard time not being bossy, controlling, and even sometimes mean when i go overboard.

It's not a male/female thing, it's a submissive/dominant thing. I have alwalys had this respect for the latter that i have not had for the former, it's hard not to think of the two differently.

It's not about calling you "*****" or cheating on you, it's deeper then that, i have this "I'm the boss" mentality that is just a part of me, it's who i am... I can try to keep it in check, but in truth, i want to be in control, that's just how it is.

Passion: yes passion about the things in life that you love, but even more so, passion about the one you love. Passion that shows up in lovemaking.

I'm not big on making love...

I don't think i could ever be.

Although i could have passion for another.

Trust: can't blame you about being weary of being gullible, but with some of us women, if we can't trust you, then why should we bother. That's a matter between two people, to figure out who's trustworthy and who's not. you say you are, I take you at your word. but you say you don't want to be gullible, then I know you'll protect yourself at any cost, which I can't reject, but helps me know you might not be honest all the time.

:laughing:
You can trust me darlin, I'm no trader...

But it takes allot to earn my trust.


tenderness: kindness is a turnon, for some of us. it is for me. and actually , your truthfulness about having weaknesses is also attractive. but it you can't be tender and mean it, why should I bother.


What is being "tender"?

I look it up in the dictionary... and it seems that if you have kindness, and weakness, then you are tender, am i missing something?

There is also a redirect to "affectionate" i am capable of showing affection, if that is what you mean.

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Wed 10/08/08 10:49 PM

Thanks to responding to me allinoell, i thought I'd just get a few "ewww, no way creep"s



Ok lets get to it:
I cannot absolutely speak for all women, but I can speak for those I know and love.
Respect: Disrespect me, and you're gone with the trash.


That one is difficult for me, i tend to be the dominant one, it's just natural for me, and i have a hard time not being bossy, controlling, and even sometimes mean when i go overboard.

It's not a male/female thing, it's a submissive/dominant thing. I have alwalys had this respect for the latter that i have not had for the former, it's hard not to think of the two differently.

It's not about calling you "*****" or cheating on you, it's deeper then that, i have this "I'm the boss" mentality that is just a part of me, it's who i am... I can try to keep it in check, but in truth, i want to be in control, that's just how it is.

Passion: yes passion about the things in life that you love, but even more so, passion about the one you love. Passion that shows up in lovemaking.

I'm not big on making love...

I don't think i could ever be.

Although i could have passion for another.

Trust: can't blame you about being weary of being gullible, but with some of us women, if we can't trust you, then why should we bother. That's a matter between two people, to figure out who's trustworthy and who's not. you say you are, I take you at your word. but you say you don't want to be gullible, then I know you'll protect yourself at any cost, which I can't reject, but helps me know you might not be honest all the time.

:laughing:
You can trust me darlin, I'm no trader...

But it takes allot to earn my trust.


tenderness: kindness is a turnon, for some of us. it is for me. and actually , your truthfulness about having weaknesses is also attractive. but it you can't be tender and mean it, why should I bother.


What is being "tender"?

I look it up in the dictionary... and it seems that if you have kindness, and weakness, then you are tender, am i missing something?

There is also a redirect to "affectionate" i am capable of showing affection, if that is what you mean.


well Mentork,

First of all, I gotta applaud you for answering and telling your truth. That is very respectable and admirable. I don't think you're a creep at all. You are who you are and you're willing to say so. So many people aren't.

Regarding dominance..... even though I expect to be respected, I have to respect your willingness to tell it like it is for YOU, which is that you want to be dominant. That comes from somewhere in your past, and nobody can change it. It's a matter of finding someone who likes to feel dominated. and they are out there......

There's nothing wrong with not being "big on making love", where you find your passion is such a personal thing, I simply hope you find it. because it is an incredible feeling.

about trust.... somehow I believe you are trustworthy,and I don't blame you in the LEAST for having to have someone earn your trust... I'm the same way. male or female, I don't trust you until you show me why I should.

and for me , tender means gentle, physical touch that expresses love, . I guess I have to admit that tender to me is physical, but that's just me. It means someone who wants me to know they love me and their gestures and touches express that.

and affection...... just showing that you care. If I am with someone and he touches my arm, holds my hand, puts his arm around my waist, I consider that affection. BUT that's not the only way to be affectionate, so I have no way of saying who is affectionate and who isn't. to me, it's just a physical demonstration of deep caring.

So thanx for responding Mentork, this is how we learn from each other. smile2

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Wed 10/08/08 10:59 PM
You guys and ladies can't tell me there's never been a time when you wanted mad but soft sex and other times you just wanted your hair pulled and the sh.. f..... out of ya.If not your not doing it right.It's supposed to be like that.

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Wed 10/08/08 11:01 PM
{h yeah I'm sorry abouy using the word )Whore) so much I thought using other slurrs and changing them during my explanations whold just cause more anguish....sorry thoughflowerforyou

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Wed 10/08/08 11:02 PM

You guys and ladies can't tell me there's never been a time when you wanted mad but soft sex and other times you just wanted your hair pulled and the sh.. f..... out of ya.If not your not doing it right.It's supposed to be like that.


:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: rofl tongue2

You tell 'em Frank!!!!!


LMFAO

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Wed 10/08/08 11:17 PM
I can only speak for myself. I don't ever want to be treated like a whore. And I need sex just as much as a man does. I don't know what kind of women you hang out with but getting nasty and freaky is not something I have heard women talk about that often so I think that blanket statement is inaccurate also.

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