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Topic: Guilt By Association
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Mon 10/06/08 06:22 PM
Edited by heartSoul on Mon 10/06/08 06:22 PM
The mudslinging has begun and now all types of rumors and innuendos are flying around.

First off is Palin stating that Obama is a terrorist.

Mon, Oct. 06, 2008
Palin criticizes Obama's relationship with former radical Ayers
By NICHOLAS AZZARA
McClatchy Newspapers

With 29 days remaining before the presidential election, Alaska governor and Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin again went on the offensive, calling into question Sen. Barack Obama's patriotism and his association with the co-founder of the violent Weather Underground group whose members were blamed for several bombings.

Obama's relationship with Ayers has become a key attack point for Republicans in recent days. The Associated Press reported that Ayers hosted a small event for Obama in 1995 and the two once worked on the board of an anti-poverty group between 2000 and 2002, but Obama has denounced Ayers' radical views.

You can read the rest here:
http://www.kansascity.com/445/story/829378.html

I wonder if Palin knows that Hillary Clinton tried this same tactic and LOST!

Next we have Barack Obama and his attack on McCain

Obama Hits McCain on Keating Five as Attacks Heat Up (Update1)
By Julianna Goldman and Hans Nichols
Oct. 6 (Bloomberg) --

Democrat Barack Obama, after attacks on his character and past associations from John McCain's campaign, is hitting back by highlighting the Republican candidate's ties to the ``Keating Five'' savings-and-loan scandal in the 1980s.

You can read the rest here:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aPhSaL.Ohd7Y&refer=home



Is this information supposed to sway voters?
Or is it being retold to get the American public’s mind of off the economy?

Share your thoughts……

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Mon 10/06/08 06:33 PM
I heard on the radio that McCain/Palin are attacking Obama with exaggerated statements because Obama is ahead.

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Mon 10/06/08 06:34 PM
Palin's just a zookeeper tossing "red meat" into the crowds gathering to hear her smear Barack Obama. Palin rants,
"And, according to the New York Times, he (Ayers) was a domestic terrorist and part of a group that, quote, 'launched a campaign of bombings that would target the Pentagon and our U.S. Capitol."

"Kill him!" proposed one man in the audience.

You on this board who echo this sick strategy of republican campaigning must be so proud.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/10/06/in_fla_palin_goes_for_the_roug.html

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Mon 10/06/08 06:38 PM

Palin's just a zookeeper tossing "red meat" into the crowds gathering to hear her smear Barack Obama. Palin rants,
"And, according to the New York Times, he (Ayers) was a domestic terrorist and part of a group that, quote, 'launched a campaign of bombings that would target the Pentagon and our U.S. Capitol."

"Kill him!" proposed one man in the audience.

You on this board who echo this sick strategy of republican campaigning must be so proud.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/10/06/in_fla_palin_goes_for_the_roug.html


I read the article. Palin is just wrong for doing that. How can it be allowed?

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Mon 10/06/08 06:42 PM

I heard on the radio that McCain/Palin are attacking Obama with exaggerated statements because Obama is ahead.


it's on the radio, tv, any news media you can find.

Will the Republicans steal this election too?

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Mon 10/06/08 06:42 PM


Palin's just a zookeeper tossing "red meat" into the crowds gathering to hear her smear Barack Obama. Palin rants,
"And, according to the New York Times, he (Ayers) was a domestic terrorist and part of a group that, quote, 'launched a campaign of bombings that would target the Pentagon and our U.S. Capitol."

"Kill him!" proposed one man in the audience.

You on this board who echo this sick strategy of republican campaigning must be so proud.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/10/06/in_fla_palin_goes_for_the_roug.html


I read the article. Palin is just wrong for doing that. How can it be allowed?


Fearmongering is all the Republicans know.

They are really desperate and afraid they will LOSE this election that they will lie, obfuscate and grasp at anything to try to mischaracterize Obama.

Too bad McCain chose the lightweight novice Sarah Palin.

He should have chosen someone else.

Perhaps someone with more experience.

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Mon 10/06/08 06:43 PM



Palin's just a zookeeper tossing "red meat" into the crowds gathering to hear her smear Barack Obama. Palin rants,
"And, according to the New York Times, he (Ayers) was a domestic terrorist and part of a group that, quote, 'launched a campaign of bombings that would target the Pentagon and our U.S. Capitol."

"Kill him!" proposed one man in the audience.

You on this board who echo this sick strategy of republican campaigning must be so proud.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/10/06/in_fla_palin_goes_for_the_roug.html


I read the article. Palin is just wrong for doing that. How can it be allowed?


Fearmongering is all the Republicans know.

They are really desperate and afraid they will LOSE this election that they will lie, obfuscate and grasp at anything to try to mischaracterize Obama.

Too bad McCain chose the lightweight novice Sarah Palin.

He should have chosen someone else.

Perhaps someone with more experience.


Would it have made a difference?

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Mon 10/06/08 06:43 PM
Edited by Winx on Mon 10/06/08 06:44 PM
HeartSoul,

Your article says that McCain is saying that Obama is raising taxes and that's only true if you make over $250,000.

When I was listening to the radio, it also said that these attacks towards Obama are an attempt to divert attention from the economy.

In my opinion, Palin is a diversion from McCain too.


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Mon 10/06/08 06:49 PM

HeartSoul,

Your article says that McCain is saying that Obama is raising taxes and that's only true if you make over $250,000.

When I was listening to the radio, it also said that these attacks towards Obama are an attempt to divert attention from the economy.

In my opinion, Palin is a diversion from McCain too.




as for the tax issue, no matter who wins we ALL will be paying more in taxes

The attacks are just plain stupid.

I want to know what they are going to do to help people in this country.

Previous affiliations really don't matter to me.

It's time for a change, I just don't know if either guy can pull it off.

mnhiker's photo
Mon 10/06/08 06:49 PM

The mudslinging has begun and now all types of rumors and innuendos are flying around.

First off is Palin stating that Obama is a terrorist.

Mon, Oct. 06, 2008
Palin criticizes Obama's relationship with former radical Ayers
By NICHOLAS AZZARA
McClatchy Newspapers

With 29 days remaining before the presidential election, Alaska governor and Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin again went on the offensive, calling into question Sen. Barack Obama's patriotism and his association with the co-founder of the violent Weather Underground group whose members were blamed for several bombings.

Obama's relationship with Ayers has become a key attack point for Republicans in recent days. The Associated Press reported that Ayers hosted a small event for Obama in 1995 and the two once worked on the board of an anti-poverty group between 2000 and 2002, but Obama has denounced Ayers' radical views.

You can read the rest here:
http://www.kansascity.com/445/story/829378.html

I wonder if Palin knows that Hillary Clinton tried this same tactic and LOST!

Next we have Barack Obama and his attack on McCain

Obama Hits McCain on Keating Five as Attacks Heat Up (Update1)
By Julianna Goldman and Hans Nichols
Oct. 6 (Bloomberg) --

Democrat Barack Obama, after attacks on his character and past associations from John McCain's campaign, is hitting back by highlighting the Republican candidate's ties to the ``Keating Five'' savings-and-loan scandal in the 1980s.

You can read the rest here:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aPhSaL.Ohd7Y&refer=home



Is this information supposed to sway voters?
Or is it being retold to get the American public’s mind of off the economy?

Share your thoughts……



Right!

They're just regurgitating what has been circulated before, in hopes it will stick.

Can you feel the fear and desperation of the Republicans?

They are going to lose.

Winx's photo
Mon 10/06/08 06:53 PM
Edited by Winx on Mon 10/06/08 07:01 PM


HeartSoul,

Your article says that McCain is saying that Obama is raising taxes and that's only true if you make over $250,000.

When I was listening to the radio, it also said that these attacks towards Obama are an attempt to divert attention from the economy.

In my opinion, Palin is a diversion from McCain too.




as for the tax issue, no matter who wins we ALL will be paying more in taxes

The attacks are just plain stupid.

I want to know what they are going to do to help people in this country.

Previous affiliations really don't matter to me.

It's time for a change, I just don't know if either guy can pull it off.


I think that change won't happen for quite awhile. It's going to take years to clean up this administration's mess.

And with the bail-out and the Stimulus check monies coming from China and other countries, future generations are still going to be stuck paying back that bill.




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Mon 10/06/08 06:53 PM
Edited by heartSoul on Mon 10/06/08 06:54 PM
The fear is running rapid
and desperation is in the air

s1owhand's photo
Mon 10/06/08 06:56 PM
both campaigns are completely full of it.

ugh. ill

Lynann's photo
Mon 10/06/08 06:58 PM
Careful ladies and gentlemen, we are all posting on this board. One of us may have an unsavory background.

Have you ever been to a school board meeting? I have. After the meeting some parents and students went to a picnic at one of the instructor's home. less than a year later the host was charged with a series of sex crimes.

If I ran for office i can see the headline now. Wyn Knowing Associated with Pervert!

McCain...why talk about issues when you can sling mud!

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Mon 10/06/08 07:00 PM
stuck with the bill
that's a lovely thought isn't itnoway

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Mon 10/06/08 08:40 PM

both campaigns are completely full of it.

ugh. ill


it seems that way doesn't it?ohwell

wouldee's photo
Mon 10/06/08 09:07 PM

The mudslinging has begun and now all types of rumors and innuendos are flying around.

First off is Palin stating that Obama is a terrorist.

Mon, Oct. 06, 2008
Palin criticizes Obama's relationship with former radical Ayers
By NICHOLAS AZZARA
McClatchy Newspapers

With 29 days remaining before the presidential election, Alaska governor and Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin again went on the offensive, calling into question Sen. Barack Obama's patriotism and his association with the co-founder of the violent Weather Underground group whose members were blamed for several bombings.

Obama's relationship with Ayers has become a key attack point for Republicans in recent days. The Associated Press reported that Ayers hosted a small event for Obama in 1995 and the two once worked on the board of an anti-poverty group between 2000 and 2002, but Obama has denounced Ayers' radical views.

You can read the rest here:
http://www.kansascity.com/445/story/829378.html

I wonder if Palin knows that Hillary Clinton tried this same tactic and LOST!

Next we have Barack Obama and his attack on McCain

Obama Hits McCain on Keating Five as Attacks Heat Up (Update1)
By Julianna Goldman and Hans Nichols
Oct. 6 (Bloomberg) --

Democrat Barack Obama, after attacks on his character and past associations from John McCain's campaign, is hitting back by highlighting the Republican candidate's ties to the ``Keating Five'' savings-and-loan scandal in the 1980s.

You can read the rest here:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aPhSaL.Ohd7Y&refer=home



Is this information supposed to sway voters?
Or is it being retold to get the American public’s mind of off the economy?

Share your thoughts……



the Keating 5 has been eclipsed by the freddie fannie obama triangle.

that little menage a trois has some lovers too. Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, and Cox. maybe even Pelosi, but I tend to think she is just along for the ride. She is San Francisco's darling, next to Feinstein and Boxer.:wink: laugh

All clintonesque masqueraders. Sorry, hillaryus, but the left has had enough of your name making things just a little too tough to cover their a$$e$ if you are still in the limelight.ohwell

as for the right, well, that's another story.

Bush has done nothing to bridge differences and cross the aisle and afford the left any mandate becdause of their offensive and poor sportsmanship concerning Gore's defeat. Kerry was a lame attempt by the left to lerave Bush at the helm, knowing full well that clintonomics were going to blow up in the face of Bush if they let Bush get past the election.

We all saw it from the right.

We all knew the clintonomic mess was about to implode.

Try as we might, the libs in Congress resisted vociferously.

Not wanting to be found out and responsible for cleaning up clinton's mess which they didn't understand completely anyway, was just laziness, pure and simple.

The last two years giving us the catatonic paralysis of the "deer in the headlights" inaction of Cngress speaks more to biding time to get away from the mess than biding their time to figure out a solution for the mess.

The implosion of liquidity offered them the smokescreen.

Pelosi had the audacity to flip it at the vote on the floor and the first bail0out package actually authored by them on the left failed.

If she hadn't been such an a$$, the republicans would have let her lead the left out of the mess while tagging it on Bush.

But noooooooooooooo..............

she had to spout.

Either she choked and sabotaged it which is a brilliant move, if she did, or she is actually just an emotional idiot and couldn't help herself in having the NATIONAL SPOTLIGHT ON HER AS SHE "SMOKED" THE RIGHT WITH THIS BAILOUT.

Paulson gave a three page outline to Bush. What does Bush know? nothing, regarding liquidity issues.

Congress turned it onto 106 pages, as we know.

Now, with the right involved, thanks solely on Pelosi's big mouth, the bill is 450 pages and 2.4 trillion plus interest over the next five years.

I don't care who gets the White House, he will preside over the greates leap in the National Debt's balance on account in history, just on the basis of the compounding interest alone.

10 billion on Bush from 5 billion. Not his fault. It would have happened irregardless of him.

But now, 12.4 billion will be 25 billion in five years.

Hey barack?

you got this?

pretty brave of him. reckless too.

welcome to the big leagues.LOL

I have spoken.rofl

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Mon 10/06/08 09:20 PM
of course dems will win. they can thank bush for it, if it wasnt for him a woman and an african american prolly wouldnt have been on the card, as it is this race is tight because they picked kind of an odd candidate in obama, but he will unfortunately pull it off,lol.

Winx's photo
Mon 10/06/08 09:29 PM

of course dems will win. they can thank bush for it, if it wasnt for him a woman and an african american prolly wouldnt have been on the card, as it is this race is tight because they picked kind of an odd candidate in obama, but he will unfortunately pull it off,lol.


Are you saying if it wasn't for McCain picking a woman?

McCain picked a woman after Obama got on the card.

It's not because he's African American that he got picked.
It's because of his intelligence, education, integrity and philosophies.


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Mon 10/06/08 09:34 PM
ahhhhhhhhhhhh yeah. so youre saying if they were expecting a close race theyd pick someon a good majority of the country STILL isnt sure about even as they hate palin/mccain? lol. no way, dems arent that dumb, theyd play it safe and send in one of their activists.


and its not BECAUSe hes african he got pick MOSTLY, though knowing the winds of america and the hope for "change" they thought a woman and a black guy are totla opposites of the spectrum of bush, a hardlined white guy with money. its pretty easy to understand,lol.

as for "his" philosophy his philosophy is what the party says or he wouldnt be on the card, ntm his ideas dont matter they still need to get through the senate.

as for my woman comment i meant clinton, she was awesome and i wish shed have gotten the nom.

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