Topic: The Rat 's Race in on who is going to win ?
Lynann's photo
Tue 09/23/08 10:20 PM
Here is what would be awesome.

If everyone who posts here and truly believes we need real alternatives got off their collective asses after this election and began to work for and build real alternatives.

I bet that's something we can all agree on.

Why do I say after this election? Because we need to start with the school board, the drain commission, the zoning board and aim for the presidency.


Chazster's photo
Wed 09/24/08 04:03 AM
Write in Ron Paul.

Chazster's photo
Wed 09/24/08 04:06 AM



Not sure who will win. Probably Obama... Doesn't really matter anyway. The more you do your homework the more you find that Obama and McCain are actually quite similar, and niether are actually discussing the "change we need".

Time to make a statement...

Save the republic, vote third party!
drinker drinker drinker drinker

How bout...

Time to make a statement... Start empeaching congresmembers and senators...

Start with the worst ones right off the get... If your under investigation, have any criminal actions pending or past... Your gone right now.

Then start with the voting records... Ya got pork, asked for pork, put pork on a bill or lobbied for pork... Your gone next.

Oh wait... That would be all of them.


Wouldn't that be awsome? If all members of government were held accountable for all of their illegal actions. What i don't understand is when a senator is even convicted of a crime, they still get that fancy paycheck and benefits package. When a soldier, on the other hand get convicted of a felony, he or she loses all veteran's benefits. Kinda back asswards huh? Another thing that's pissing me off is little by little the judicial branch is losing it's power to the executive branch... Consolidation of power is the first step to corruption.

What's sad is the presidential candidates are chosen, and eventually voted into office by congress... Downright depressing huh? And everybody is getting so wrapped up in presidents...

BTW not all congressmen are crooked. Dr Paul is pretty reluctant to accept funding from anybody. And from what i hear has an outstanding voting record. Honestly, if we could get him in the White House, corruption would stop pretty soon, as most of what he does exposes corruption.


That is the whole reason they don't want him getting into office. He was stone walled a bit.

Drivinmenutz's photo
Wed 09/24/08 07:07 AM

Here is what would be awesome.

If everyone who posts here and truly believes we need real alternatives got off their collective asses after this election and began to work for and build real alternatives.

I bet that's something we can all agree on.

Why do I say after this election? Because we need to start with the school board, the drain commission, the zoning board and aim for the presidency.




First step, sign up for Ron Paul's campaign for liberty, donate money if at all possible. Then, for the election, either vote for one of Dr. Paul's candidates (Cynthia Mckinney, Chuck Baldwin, Ralph Nader), or just write in Ron Paul if you state actually counts the write ins. The whole point of that is you will give publicity to those people that will address the REAL issues and provide REAL solutions to these issues. If you really feel ambitious, Organize some town meetings, or some sort of community support groups that can get together and do what you brought up earlier.

What i don't get, is the people that want "change" the most blindly supporting Obama. If you vote for him or McCain, you aren't helping anyone out. You are just following the crowd of "sheeple".


no photo
Wed 09/24/08 07:13 AM

Here is what would be awesome.

If everyone who posts here and truly believes we need real alternatives got off their collective asses after this election and began to work for and build real alternatives.

I bet that's something we can all agree on.

Why do I say after this election? Because we need to start with the school board, the drain commission, the zoning board and aim for the presidency.


I agree with you...Locally here a lot of heads need to fall..You wouldn't believe the corruption..

Drivinmenutz's photo
Wed 09/24/08 07:15 AM
Another thing i don't get, is how the people that are complaining the most, about all these issues like, economy, healthcare, etc. all complain about how the government is screwing everything up. Yet they vote for bigger government, and more intervention... How does this make sense? Everyone agree's that the government is corrupt, and getting worse, but they want us to be more dependent on the same government they are complaining about? WTF?

First, regulate their power according to our constitution, than redistribute that power back to the states a bit more. If you deconsolidate power, and restore the checks and balances, you will find corruption start to dissappear.

The biggest problem here is when people vote for people and policies that offer handouts. This is how we get manipulated. Free this and free that. The government was never supposed to hold our hands from the moment we were born until we die. People are "voting themselves money" as old Benjamin Franklin put it. When people start doing that, it will "herald the end of the republic".

AdventureBegins's photo
Wed 09/24/08 09:31 AM

Here is what would be awesome.

If everyone who posts here and truly believes we need real alternatives got off their collective asses after this election and began to work for and build real alternatives.

I bet that's something we can all agree on.

Why do I say after this election? Because we need to start with the school board, the drain commission, the zoning board and aim for the presidency.




To be truly effective it must be done at all levels at once.

Saturate the political field of battle and they won't know where to respond, nor will they have the assets to respond to all of it.

Get out the truth on the locals. Make sure everyone knows their names and what they are doing. Do the same at the County, State, and Federal levels.

And do it all at the same time. All over the US.

Then perhaps they will remember who is actually the boss of US.

Drivinmenutz's photo
Wed 09/24/08 09:34 AM


Here is what would be awesome.

If everyone who posts here and truly believes we need real alternatives got off their collective asses after this election and began to work for and build real alternatives.

I bet that's something we can all agree on.

Why do I say after this election? Because we need to start with the school board, the drain commission, the zoning board and aim for the presidency.




To be truly effective it must be done at all levels at once.

Saturate the political field of battle and they won't know where to respond, nor will they have the assets to respond to all of it.

Get out the truth on the locals. Make sure everyone knows their names and what they are doing. Do the same at the County, State, and Federal levels.

And do it all at the same time. All over the US.

Then perhaps they will remember who is actually the boss of US.



drinker drinker drinker drinker

respectfull_man's photo
Wed 09/24/08 11:43 AM


Here is what would be awesome.

If everyone who posts here and truly believes we need real alternatives got off their collective asses after this election and began to work for and build real alternatives.

I bet that's something we can all agree on.

Why do I say after this election? Because we need to start with the school board, the drain commission, the zoning board and aim for the presidency.




To be truly effective it must be done at all levels at once.

Saturate the political field of battle and they won't know where to respond, nor will they have the assets to respond to all of it.

Get out the truth on the locals. Make sure everyone knows their names and what they are doing. Do the same at the County, State, and Federal levels.

And do it all at the same time. All over the US.

Then perhaps they will remember who is actually the boss of US.



wow that a good one :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:



Winx's photo
Wed 09/24/08 01:16 PM


Here is what would be awesome.

If everyone who posts here and truly believes we need real alternatives got off their collective asses after this election and began to work for and build real alternatives.

I bet that's something we can all agree on.

Why do I say after this election? Because we need to start with the school board, the drain commission, the zoning board and aim for the presidency.




To be truly effective it must be done at all levels at once.

Saturate the political field of battle and they won't know where to respond, nor will they have the assets to respond to all of it.

Get out the truth on the locals. Make sure everyone knows their names and what they are doing. Do the same at the County, State, and Federal levels.

And do it all at the same time. All over the US.

Then perhaps they will remember who is actually the boss of US.


That won't help with this election at this late date. But..it would be great for the next one and the next one....

AdventureBegins's photo
Wed 09/24/08 01:23 PM
And as many of them as it takes.

the long view.

Quikstepper's photo
Wed 09/24/08 02:40 PM
McCain/Palin....All the Way in 2008!!!!


then vote out EVERY incumbant...

What a coup that would be ...with our itsy bitsy vote...

laugh laugh laugh

respectfull_man's photo
Wed 09/24/08 04:37 PM

McCain/Palin....All the Way in 2008!!!!


then vote out EVERY incumbant...

What a coup that would be ...with our itsy bitsy vote...

laugh laugh laugh



Please i dont think so ...obama is going to take it , it time all those solders come home and the poor start getting health care .......full time ...drinker drinker drinker drinker

adj4u's photo
Wed 09/24/08 04:46 PM
the rat

adj4u's photo
Wed 09/24/08 04:48 PM



Here is what would be awesome.

If everyone who posts here and truly believes we need real alternatives got off their collective asses after this election and began to work for and build real alternatives.

I bet that's something we can all agree on.

Why do I say after this election? Because we need to start with the school board, the drain commission, the zoning board and aim for the presidency.




To be truly effective it must be done at all levels at once.

Saturate the political field of battle and they won't know where to respond, nor will they have the assets to respond to all of it.

Get out the truth on the locals. Make sure everyone knows their names and what they are doing. Do the same at the County, State, and Federal levels.

And do it all at the same time. All over the US.

Then perhaps they will remember who is actually the boss of US.


That won't help with this election at this late date. But..it would be great for the next one and the next one....


if every one that will not vote would go write in a candidate that would be GOOD STArt

Winx's photo
Wed 09/24/08 05:23 PM


McCain/Palin....All the Way in 2008!!!!


then vote out EVERY incumbant...

What a coup that would be ...with our itsy bitsy vote...

laugh laugh laugh



Please i dont think so ...obama is going to take it , it time all those solders come home and the poor start getting health care .......full time ...drinker drinker drinker drinker


drinker drinker

Giocamo's photo
Wed 09/24/08 06:05 PM
MCain will win...and...I PRECDICTTTTT...it won't be as close as the pools indicate

Winx's photo
Wed 09/24/08 06:25 PM

MCain will win...and...I PRECDICTTTTT...it won't be as close as the pools indicate


Bring it on.pitchfork

:wink:

Giocamo's photo
Wed 09/24/08 06:30 PM
Obama can't win unless your father and my father vote for him...which as we know...is NOT going to happen...

Winx's photo
Wed 09/24/08 06:36 PM

Obama can't win unless your father and my father vote for him...which as we know...is NOT going to happen...


My father, an Independent, is voting for Obama and so is my mother, a Democrat.