Topic: So here's an idea...
snarkytwain's photo
Tue 09/16/08 08:58 AM
I won't go into depth with my personal beliefs. If you REALLY want to know bad, just message me. Otherwise I won't bore ya with a long story. What I DO want to say is I have decided on something that works for me:

Jesus was the son of God.
He came to save people.
He did NOT come to save EVERYONE.
He came to save those who needed a blood sacrifice to feel God loves them.
This is not sarcasm. Everyone needs to know God in their own way.Others are saved in other ways; God did not make everyone different just for them to have to find Him in the same way.
There was a LOT more Jesus could have said and taught, but people weren't ready for it so He didn't say it.

Consider the ramifications of these statements. This is my faith.

Winx's photo
Tue 09/16/08 09:04 AM
What do you mean by people needing a blood sacrifice to feel that God loves them?

snarkytwain's photo
Tue 09/16/08 09:12 AM
Some people, especailly, I think, people in Jesus' day but even now there are many, feel that there should be a sacrifice made to a god in order for that god to be real. Others are a little more in-depth -- they feel that what they have done in life merits a major punishment, and Jesus paid that punishment for them. If you know the Christian faith you know why Jesus came. I don't dispute that. I do, however, dispute that He did it for EVERYONE. I think, rather, He did it for those who chose to find God that way, for those in which it makes sense.

ahuhalicious's photo
Tue 09/16/08 09:14 AM
good grief, what bible are you reading, smh

no photo
Tue 09/16/08 09:24 AM
ummm...you realize of course that Jesus was a jew and the son of a carpenter(by the way, he meant we were ALL gods children, not just him)...and that the last supper was a celebration of Passover, and that the "eating my body, drinking my blood...bit" was a METAPHOR....right?, right?...you know that, right????

slaphead shocked

snarkytwain's photo
Tue 09/16/08 09:32 AM
I have read the Bible backwards and forwards, upside down and inside out. I know what it says.

snarkytwain's photo
Tue 09/16/08 09:41 AM

ummm...you realize of course that Jesus was a jew and the son of a carpenter(by the way, he meant we were ALL gods children, not just him)...and that the last supper was a celebration of Passover, and that the "eating my body, drinking my blood...bit" was a METAPHOR....right?, right?...you know that, right????

slaphead shocked



...um...yes... I do... I'm a bit confused as to the relevance here... spock

ahuhalicious's photo
Tue 09/16/08 09:50 AM

I have read the Bible backwards and forwards, upside down and inside out. I know what it says.
i know you havent because your way off on what the bible states

snarkytwain's photo
Tue 09/16/08 09:54 AM
Well, I'm not trying to be on what the Bible states, so I guess we're doing just fine. :wink:

davidben1's photo
Tue 09/16/08 10:13 AM
there is not a human alive that does not pass thru all the same emotions that jesus felt, feeling the same feelings, seeing the same expereince, metophorically walking the same exact path, all at random time hiding the patterns of experience from each other, keeping all mixed and sturred in a churn, each drinking and eating of the same flesh and blood of mortal experience, each with a unique immortal face tasting of a single mortal space, bringing all to the essence of same experience in completion, one as all and all as one....

SharpShooter10's photo
Tue 09/16/08 10:16 AM
I believe Jesus led by example myself.

davidben1's photo
Tue 09/16/08 10:24 AM

I believe Jesus led by example myself.


indeed, all in history walking and following in essence of same emotions, teaching all the same things, thru many different situations, but all teaching the same principles, down many different paths.......

snarkytwain's photo
Tue 09/16/08 10:32 AM


I believe Jesus led by example myself.


indeed, all in history walking and following in essence of same emotions, teaching all the same things, thru many different situations, but all teaching the same principles, down many different paths.......


Thank-you for making my point a million times better than I did. Both of you. happy

davidben1's photo
Tue 09/16/08 10:49 AM



I believe Jesus led by example myself.


indeed, all in history walking and following in essence of same emotions, teaching all the same things, thru many different situations, but all teaching the same principles, down many different paths.......


Thank-you for making my point a million times better than I did. Both of you. happy


just proves we all really know and believe the same things, but communication was blocked, spurred by fearful interpretations of all truths, as sent and purposed thru history, keeping all and any from the seeing until the time, but all things come to see when the fear is dispelled, and the speech of all is opened, and understanding is unleashed, and all becomes as one, as peace and unity flows like rivers, creating happiness and bliss and peace for all.........peace