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Topic: where does life start?
TheLonelyWalker's photo
Fri 09/12/08 08:50 AM
I really and honestly believe that life starts when an individual spermatozoid fertilizes an individual egg. In this moment life in its whole extent is conceived.

What do you think or believe?

P.D.: I just would like to see how many people won't remain in the very question.

Queene123's photo
Fri 09/12/08 08:54 AM

I really and honestly believe that life starts when an individual spermatozoid fertilizes an individual egg. In this moment life in its whole extent is conceived.

What do you think or believe?

P.D.: I just would like to see how many people won't remain in the very question.



i belive the same:heart:

BobbyJ's photo
Fri 09/12/08 08:55 AM
My personal beliefs are the same as yours LonelyWalker. However, I believe this question is one of those that has so many different opinions that it will never have a definitive answer. So, I think it's a matter of conscience. Everyone must follow their own conscience on this question.

redhead44613's photo
Fri 09/12/08 08:57 AM
When the little heart starts to beat!

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Fri 09/12/08 08:57 AM
I agree 100%....it is still a child, no matter how smallflowerforyou flowerforyou flowerforyou

cottonelle's photo
Fri 09/12/08 08:58 AM
with a gleam in the eye, a cheap bottle of wine and a broken condum

redhead44613's photo
Fri 09/12/08 09:02 AM

with a gleam in the eye, a cheap bottle of wine and a broken condum
:laughing:

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Fri 09/12/08 09:02 AM
I agree with you Miguel. But, to extrapolate your question further, does this mean that just because an egg is fertilized that "life" truly begins? I think everyone needs to look at his or her own conscience and belief system to answer that for themselves.

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Fri 09/12/08 09:05 AM

I agree with you Miguel. But, to extrapolate your question further, does this mean that just because an egg is fertilized that "life" truly begins? I think everyone needs to look at his or her own conscience and belief system to answer that for themselves.

That is exactly my point.
My question would be better. what does your conscience say?

redhead44613's photo
Fri 09/12/08 09:08 AM
Like I said...life begins when the little heart starts beating. Nothing is alive till there is a heart beat, its just cells till then.

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Fri 09/12/08 09:16 AM

Like I said...life begins when the little heart starts beating. Nothing is alive till there is a heart beat, its just cells till then.

cells?

merriam-webster online definition of cell?

a small usually microscopic mass of protoplasm bounded externally by a semipermeable membrane, usually including one or more nuclei and various other organelles with their products, capable alone or interacting with other cells of performing all the fundamental functions of life, and forming the smallest structural unit of living matter capable of functioning independently

redhead44613's photo
Fri 09/12/08 09:20 AM
You asked what I believed so I told you, yes cells are alive but do they feel pain? or happiness? or anything at all?

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Fri 09/12/08 09:22 AM

You asked what I believed so I told you, yes cells are alive but do they feel pain? or happiness? or anything at all?

i respect your point of view.
Can I share mine and receive the same respect?

redhead44613's photo
Fri 09/12/08 09:23 AM


You asked what I believed so I told you, yes cells are alive but do they feel pain? or happiness? or anything at all?

i respect your point of view.
Can I share mine and receive the same respect?
of course you can sweetie, I'm not gonna bash your believes

no photo
Fri 09/12/08 09:25 AM


I agree with you Miguel. But, to extrapolate your question further, does this mean that just because an egg is fertilized that "life" truly begins? I think everyone needs to look at his or her own conscience and belief system to answer that for themselves.

That is exactly my point.
My question would be better. what does your conscience say?


I believe that life begins at conception. When it comes to a question of abortion, which is where my mind goes when a question like this comes up and maybe it's not your intention but I'll answer it as if it were, I think that "life" begins still at conception. But, I think that the mother's rights and "life" override any potential life that is created at conception. I do not believe in abortion for myself, however, I think it is my right to choose what happens with my body and my life. I don't advocate abortion and I certainly don't think that it should be used as a form of birth control. But, there are very good and valid reasons for ending a pregnancy and life within the first say 10-12 weeks of a pregnancy and even after, under some circumstances.

I know I probably just opened a can of worms. Everyone has an opinion and everyone thinks they are right. And I think both sides of this particular argument are both right and wrong, there is no black and white, there are a million shades of gray in between which need to be taken into account. Which is why I think everyone needs to look into their own conscience, decide what is right for themselves, and accept whatever consequences come of their action.

LAMom's photo
Fri 09/12/08 09:26 AM
(( Miguel ))):heart:

Life is awe-mazing and my views on conception and when is one truely alive have changed as I have gotten older,, and being blessed with 4 incredible children,, Life began as a single moment stopped in time,, when yes at that very
moment I knew,, just knew I was not one anymore
I was now two,,

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Fri 09/12/08 09:27 AM
Thank you.
I do believe that even at this primary stage in which the cells are dividing little by little there is some sort of sensivity in the baby.
The baby at this early stage can feel mommy's stress or happiness depending on her situation.
All these are the events that start developing the psyche of a person. Even at those early stages.
Just my honest point of view.

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Fri 09/12/08 09:29 AM



I agree with you Miguel. But, to extrapolate your question further, does this mean that just because an egg is fertilized that "life" truly begins? I think everyone needs to look at his or her own conscience and belief system to answer that for themselves.

That is exactly my point.
My question would be better. what does your conscience say?


I believe that life begins at conception. When it comes to a question of abortion, which is where my mind goes when a question like this comes up and maybe it's not your intention but I'll answer it as if it were, I think that "life" begins still at conception. But, I think that the mother's rights and "life" override any potential life that is created at conception. I do not believe in abortion for myself, however, I think it is my right to choose what happens with my body and my life. I don't advocate abortion and I certainly don't think that it should be used as a form of birth control. But, there are very good and valid reasons for ending a pregnancy and life within the first say 10-12 weeks of a pregnancy and even after, under some circumstances.

I know I probably just opened a can of worms. Everyone has an opinion and everyone thinks they are right. And I think both sides of this particular argument are both right and wrong, there is no black and white, there are a million shades of gray in between which need to be taken into account. Which is why I think everyone needs to look into their own conscience, decide what is right for themselves, and accept whatever consequences come of their action.


sweetie, i was not talking about abortion.

cottonelle's photo
Fri 09/12/08 09:31 AM
but she was

TheLonelyWalker's photo
Fri 09/12/08 09:33 AM

but she was

and I appreciate her position.

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