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Mr_Brightside777's photo
Wed 09/10/08 09:31 PM

Considering what this country has suffered in the last 8 years, Obama is the best man for the job. We do not need another 4 years of the same.



My feelings exactly. Not to trash the opposition, but I can't in good faith vote for someone who wants to "stay the course". The present course SUCKS, and has brought us down from a country that was once loved, admired, and respected (by most, anyway), to one that is now, loathed, feared, and suspected of being imeperialistic. That's not the country I grew up in, nor is the one in which I want my SON to grow up in. So sorry, Q. Can't say why to vote FOR Obama, but I personally would vote for Pinky and the Brain before I would McCain and that woman I've never heard of before...

Dragoness's photo
Wed 09/10/08 09:37 PM

thats a little better. But what do YOU think

I dont care what the Associated Press thinks


I already said, Obama stands as a better man with his attack ads because they stay on issue and they do not really slam his opponent with untruths, they just state the facts.

Off subject here but have you seen the one with him (McCain) hugging Bush like he was his long lost daddy? LOL Cracks me up. I don't think I have ever seen two men hug like that unless they were gay or one of them was sobbing so hard they couldn't stand. Okay I will stop laughing for now.

Anyway, Obama outshines McCain in giving this country hope, which has become a short commodity of late under dictator Bush.

wouldee's photo
Wed 09/10/08 09:42 PM
wiki view of McCain.

straight talk/ no axe to grind.

learn of Mc cain's record here. it is vast.

then watch the debates tomorrow on CNN

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_John_McCain

no photo
Wed 09/10/08 09:46 PM
stop with the links and the pasted articles

I want to know what the people think.

Not what the spin machines want me to think

wouldee's photo
Wed 09/10/08 09:55 PM
its not spin

wikipedia is a free site propelled by donations.

it is an attempt to make a digital encyclopedia of straight information and facts without spin.

It is a noble work.

anyone can donate, and many scholars donate their time and talent to the cause.

It isn't complete, but it is a very good beginning point for any search on any topic.

my favorite is the Pacific coast Highway. That is better than I thought it would be.

check it out.

type in obama's record too



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MirrorMirror's photo
Wed 09/10/08 10:08 PM
:smile: I feel like the election is already over since I know who is gonna win.:smile:

Dragoness's photo
Wed 09/10/08 10:11 PM

stop with the links and the pasted articles

I want to know what the people think.

Not what the spin machines want me to think


Sorry, I was lazy and did not want to type the whole thing myself. The article I posted is not biased, it states the facts of what each candidate stands for without any spin involved.

Spin is definitely a clouding effect of the real truth of what is going on, we all know it well, Bush did it to us for almost 8 years now.

Dragoness's photo
Wed 09/10/08 10:13 PM

:smile: I feel like the election is already over since I know who is gonna win.:smile:


Hopefully your intuition is telling you that the American people have learned their lesson and want change. Cause if it is McCain, the people have not learned their lessons yet.

TJN's photo
Wed 09/10/08 10:17 PM

I'd like to hear WHY Obama or McCain should be President. Not why either one shouldn't

Can anyone present an argument for their candidate without having to resort to politics of destruction bashing tactics?

just wondering, personally I don't think ya'll can
Funny that that didnt last long before got offtopic
I'm voting for McCain. He is honorable, and wants to change things in gov. I feel he is more in touch with us "average Americans"

MirrorMirror's photo
Wed 09/10/08 10:17 PM


:smile: I feel like the election is already over since I know who is gonna win.:smile:


Hopefully your intuition is telling you that the American people have learned their lesson and want change. Cause if it is McCain, the people have not learned their lessons yet.
:smile: Get used to talking about McCain and Sarah Palin.:smile: I am ohwell

Dragoness's photo
Wed 09/10/08 10:25 PM



:smile: I feel like the election is already over since I know who is gonna win.:smile:


Hopefully your intuition is telling you that the American people have learned their lesson and want change. Cause if it is McCain, the people have not learned their lessons yet.
:smile: Get used to talking about McCain and Sarah Palin.:smile: I am ohwell


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I love this country and I want it to be better than what Bush has made it into. We cannot have Bush Jr Jr in office or we are really going to have problems.frustrated sad ohwell tears what spock ill surprised scared

Drivinmenutz's photo
Wed 09/10/08 10:34 PM
I find it humorous and sad, that people think there is actually much of any difference between McCain and Obama. To anyone that believes otherwise i urge you to do some reading into both candidates from a neutral perspective. Be critical of both, and you will see little to no difference.

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Wed 09/10/08 10:42 PM




:smile: I feel like the election is already over since I know who is gonna win.:smile:


Hopefully your intuition is telling you that the American people have learned their lesson and want change. Cause if it is McCain, the people have not learned their lessons yet.
:smile: Get used to talking about McCain and Sarah Palin.:smile: I am ohwell


NNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tell me it ain't so

I love this country and I want it to be better than what Bush has made it into. We cannot have Bush Jr Jr in office or we are really going to have problems.frustrated sad ohwell tears what spock ill surprised scared
Bush Jr Jr? he isnt a Jrfrustrated slaphead

catwoman96's photo
Wed 09/10/08 10:43 PM
a divided america is not good
why does everybody get so angry????

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Drivinmenutz's photo
Wed 09/10/08 10:45 PM

a divided america is not good
why does everybody get so angry????

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because they allow themselves to be manipulated...?what winking flowers

catwoman96's photo
Wed 09/10/08 10:51 PM
Edited by catwoman96 on Wed 09/10/08 10:52 PM


a divided america is not good
why does everybody get so angry????

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because they allow themselves to be manipulated...?what winking flowers

thank you drivin.flowers

the OP did a smart thing. Tried to make it a thread and asked for there not to be any bashing.
It seems that even in america we do not respect eachother.

and in reality...we all want the same durn thing.
just different ideas of getting there.

well...we all bring something to the table.

if people cant try to discuss things without hurling insults and placing blame...

I do not wonder how wars get started.

kerbear73's photo
Wed 09/10/08 11:04 PM
Edited by kerbear73 on Wed 09/10/08 11:09 PM
I like McCain

He has done a lot for his country, and he has proven that he will be there for the country. He is a True American

He was a pilot in the Navy, as a matter of fact, he flew a AD Skyraider, that is the Aircraft my Father Flew in the Navy.

He has Dedicated his life for this country, being in the Navy, POW and entered politics in 1982.

McCain has a better track record than obama 2 years as a senator.

I just think he is a good person in General, and he has a better understanding than Obama would have..


noblenan's photo
Wed 09/10/08 11:05 PM

thats a little better. But what do YOU think

I dont care what the Associated Press thinks


Ok, here goes!
First, I want to thank Dragoness for that post. It was informative without sounding bias.

What do I think? I think we should vote for Ron Paul! And, here's my reasons. Dr. Paul puts the responsibility for the security of this country back on the people. He understands that we have become a country of people who spend more than they make, believe their government owes them something, and believes that their happiness depends on having more "bling". He understands that we as a country and as individuals have to change this mind set to avoid disaster. Our days of being greedy, manipulators are numbered. I can't quote you anything. He has a website just like the others. You can read for yourself. Unfortunately, the two political machines will not allow him to be a positive consideration and there's not enough people who can see through the political BS.

Now for McCain. I have not heard him say anything that makes me think that the next four years will be any different than the last eight. I think his "kick a$$ and take names" attitude is offensive. I think he will be as big a bully as Bush has been. I don't think he has a clue as to what people like me need or want to make our lives better. While I honor his service to his country, I believe he is a victim of the same kind of unnecessary war, as is Iraq. There will be no gain from this war any more than that one, and the long term affects will be far greater. His opinion is that we (the U.S.) needs to win. It's a no-win situation.

To be honest with you, I'm just not sure about Obama. he can talk a good game, but can he back up the talk? Universal health care for children? At least in my state, there is no reason why any child should go uninsured. The limits for state assistance are quite high. His proposal for the war, I don't really understand. Increasing the tax liability on higher income individuals and families? Sorry, rich folk, you might have to settle for the Lincoln instead of the Lexus.
But we won't know unless we give him a chance. Is his success something we want to take a chance on? It's a hard decision!

So there you go, that's my opinion and I'm stickin to it! waving flowers
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