Wheezer, My Faith is far stronger than many would believe. I walk a fine
line of spirituality that most would think is not possible. My belief in
the bible is as strong as any and as a result I search for more. Common
sense and the teachings tell us that prophets still walk this earth and
that the teachings they offer should be discussed and prayed about.

Common sense and the teachings also tell me that these same prophets
carry scriptures from the past to teach us in the latter days. It is
said many times in the Bible that in the latter days the words sealed
away will be given to man to learn more. These words will only be
Unsealed in the Latter days.

I ask you and anyone else reading this post to deny these facts and
stand with Proper supporting evidence that the tomes being offered today
in these latter days are Not the word of God. If you are one of those
who Deny that such tomes as these could exist I am wasting my time,
however if you have not taken the time to read some of these tomes
because you have been told they are a heretics rantings, maybe you
should read them. Several are worth the time and the feeling inside
becomes stronger as I pray as to the validity of them. Faith is a far
more powerful thing when the knowledge gained is used for peaceful
purposes and in peaceful ways.

In my reading and interpretations I become closer to the path I wish to
walk and am closer to his teachings. Only in this way can my questions
be answered, Food for thought is my number one priority in seeking
knowledge and his teachings.



G

no man should add or take away from the bible, so I'd say it's not for
man to choose if genesis or anyother book were to be removed.

the bible also states to be wary of false prophets increasing in numbers
in the end times

i dont know how much is missing or if anything is but you set down and
really study it from the beginning everything thats it said was going to
happen has happen up to this point, now how can you argue with that, do
we just set back til the end of time an say oh gosh i geuss it was
right, or do we take a chance now and do what it says, or do we toss it
aside just like any other book, thats the question everyone must ask
them self. as for me i believe it, and everyone has a right to believe
what they want, intresting this world and how it evolved and everything
isnt it

Hey gryph, I think maybe you misunderstood or I didn't make myself
clear....I absolutely believe that profits are walking this
earth......and a whole lot more that operate in the gift of "prophecy".
The only thing about that is prophecy never supercedes the word of God,
it has to line up, and not contradict the scriptures.
I would love to read these tomes you speak of....please tell me where
to find them.

To broken...............AMEN!

Well Fedman, many passages have already been removed from the Bible as I
listed in earlier posts. Since the compilation of the King James Bible
there are a number of edits to it. Passages have been reworded/edited
and even removed. If you read the info I posted earlier you would see
this as fact not a belief.

As I stated in a previous post also it is quite possible we are in the
Latter Days, and in as much the Tomes I speak of have been public for
quite some time. The Dead Sea Scrolls, The Book of Mormon, The Pearl of
Great Price, only to name a few. Ancient texts whether proven to be of
the days of old or not give enlightenment to all who read them. I would
Imagine that one or two more Tomes will be unearthed before the return
occurs. I have been reading from time to time these books and as far as
I can see they do Not contradict the teachings of Christ and in as much
I will continue to read them until I see otherwise.

I will also be adding several more pieces of reading material that I
have gathered during research of this post. Books that did not make it
to the King James version we have today are also on this list. I will be
searching for older versions of this bible to verify some conjecture I
have been reading about.





G

http://www.thelostbooks.com/kjvtoc1615.jpg

This shows some of the editing that has occured in the earlier versions
of The King James version

http://www.thelostbooks.com/missing.htm

Both are links and can lead to other areas if you are interested in
doing so.

G

Thanks Gryphyn, I'm interested and will check it out when I have some
more time. Just another point, though I can't prove it at the moment.
I read somewhere, years ago, before internet that much of what was
removed by King James was related to women. His reasons apparently were
that he did not believe that any woman should be held above a man -
there were some reasons given that escape me right now. So he took our
words, prases, whole passages that gave woman any part role in making
the bible or it's history.

This is somehting I need to research for the 1st time on-line. I love
the internet, makes the library obsolete.

lots are missing. mostly, its collaborating evidence, other acounts,
ect. good reading to be sure. i like the one where jesus makes the
throne wider because his father made it too narrow....

You could relate that parable in several ways, I like to think it
relates to walking a Narrow Path and to keep a clear point of view on
the reason to walk it as it is.



G

God's "word" is only in the 1st 5 books of the bible. Half of that to be
exact. God gave Moses a copy of these books, Moses broke them, and the
angels dictated the 2nd copy to Moses. Thus, there are often 2 versions
of the same story throughout the first 5 books.

After that, its no longer "God's Word". Its a collection of material
beleived to be divinely inspired, and divinely important. So, when Paul
writes how he thinks women should dress in church, HE is talking, its
not "Gods" word. When John is writing his vision of the Beast, its HIS
word, not God's word. This is very very important. We should not base
our worship on what Paul thinks love is like. We should not bet our
souls on what Matthew, Mark, John and Luke thought they remembered...

Taken in that context, it doesnt really "matter" what books of the bible
have been editted, which ones were dropped from cannon, and which ones
were 'added'. So long as they hold scriptual value, and insight, then
they are valuable. I personally would vote for the re-inclusion of "The
Book of Enoch", "The Book of Thomas", and a couple others.

I also dont think that there was a 'secret agenda' or 'DaVinci-Code
like-conspiracy'. The written record is clear enough - there were
political turf-battles over which books were considered 'cannon'. Sure,
Constantine lined up his allies along the lines of which would best suit
his political aims, and so, those Bishops are the ones who championed
which "5" of the gospels were considered "cannon".

I thank you all for the insightful information, I will use this info to
further gain the info I have been looking for. To those who spent the
time to answer me with your valuable comments it is very much
appreciated.



G

good point wheezer hope i spelled it right lol but when i first heard of
the missing books i was reading my preachers edition kingjames an the
storys inbetween the old an new testaments interesting actually i
incourage you to get one an check it out if your interested in the bible
might greatly broaden your respect for the lord as well as knowledge for
you i have learned some that i didnt want to learn an some that im glad
it was there but all in all it has a better explanation of the verses
below them at the bottom of the page. i plan to check out the dead sea
scrolls bible next to see how different the old books were or werent.
have fun with it i like to research it . hope i didnt offend you. take
care.

fedman i think the verse you are talkin about is in revelation chapter
22 verse 18 check it out makes me wonder what happened to the man who
took the books out of the bible because they didnt thing they were
appropiate or biblical what do you think. the books are called apocrypha
1 esdras
2 esdras
tobit
judith
additions to esther
wisdom of solomon
ecclesiasticus
baruch
letter of jeremiah
prayer of azariah
susanna
bel and the dragon
prayer of manasseh
1 maccabees
2 maccabees
now they say that these were listed under the westminster confession
(1643)states that the books commonly called apocrypha not being of
divine inspiration are no part of the canon of scripture and there fore
are of no authority in the church of god or to be any other writing . so
when we say that the use of adding or taking away is bad who has this
right to take away these verses an books if we do not understand what
god has for us in the verses evenly does it give us the right to take it
out remember revelation chapter 22 verse 18 kinda scary right it says (
for i testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of
this book, if any man shall add unto these things, god shall add unto
him the plagues that are written in this book.) what do youall think i
am curious about this one.