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Topic: Book Banning by Palin
usernamefayou's photo
Sat 09/06/08 10:21 PM
The library is a socialistic program. I can't believe she doesn't try to ban libraries.

tngxl65's photo
Sat 09/06/08 10:21 PM

bigsmile ok gotcha Chaz.:banana: But it is a little disturbing to hear that she asked about banning books "as a test". what Why would someone do that?what Its just strange.shocked


That I agree with. It is disturbing that she would consider banning books. It scares me.

But posting this list and associating it with her is BS.

MirrorMirror's photo
Sat 09/06/08 10:23 PM

I looked this up. From what I read, she didn't name books and she didn't go through with the banning. Back then she claimed to do it as a test of loyalty. Not too sure about that, what I am sure of is that it was in 1996 and none of those Harry Potter books you mentioned were written yet.




http://news.bostonherald.com/news/2008/view.bg?&articleid=1117009&format=&page=2&listingType=2008pres#articleFull


"Sarah said to Mary Ellen, ’What would your response be if I asked you to remove some books from the collection?" Kilkenny said.

"I was shocked. Mary Ellen sat up straight and said something along the line of, ’The books in the Wasilla Library collection were selected on the basis of national selection criteria for libraries of this size, and I would absolutely resist all efforts to ban books.’"

Palin didn’t mention specific books at that meeting, Kilkenny said.

Palin herself, questioned at the time, called her inquiries rhetorical and simply part of a policy discussion with a department head "about understanding and following administration agendas," according to the Frontiersman article."
huh Thats odd huh I dont understand why she would even ask about thathuh

Chazster's photo
Sat 09/06/08 10:23 PM
Dude, there is no need to clutter up the whole forum with cut and paste stuff from the article. If they want to go read it they can.

t22learner's photo
Sat 09/06/08 10:25 PM

Dude, there is no need to clutter up the whole forum with cut and paste stuff from the article. If they want to go read it they can.

No, we wouldn't want to clutter the forums with facts.

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Sat 09/06/08 10:29 PM

WASILLA -- Back in 1996, when she first became mayor, Sarah Palin asked the city librarian if she would be all right with censoring library books should she be asked to do so.





According to news coverage at the time, the librarian said she would definitely not be all right with it. A few months later, the librarian, Mary Ellen Emmons, got a letter from Palin telling her she was going to be fired. The censorship issue was not mentioned as a reason for the firing. The letter just said the new mayor felt Emmons didn't fully support her and had to go.

Emmons had been city librarian for seven years and was well liked. After a wave of public support for her, Palin relented and let Emmons keep her job.

It all happened 12 years ago and the controversy long ago disappeared into musty files. Until this week. Under intense national scrutiny, the issue has returned to dog her. It has been mentioned in news stories in Time Magazine and The New York Times and is spreading like a virus through the blogosphere.

The stories are all suggestive, but facts are hard to come by. Did Palin actually ban books at the Wasilla Public Library?

CONFRONTATION WITH PALIN

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In December 1996, Emmons told her hometown newspaper, the Frontiersman, that Palin three times asked her -- starting before she was sworn in -- about possibly removing objectionable books from the library if the need arose.

Emmons told the Frontiersman she flatly refused to consider any kind of censorship. Emmons, now Mary Ellen Baker, is on vacation from her current job in Fairbanks and did not return e-mail or telephone messages left for her Wednesday.

When the matter came up for the second time in October 1996, during a City Council meeting, Anne Kilkenny, a Wasilla housewife who often attends council meetings, was there.

Like many Alaskans, Kilkenny calls the governor by her first name.

"Sarah said to Mary Ellen, 'What would your response be if I asked you to remove some books from the collection?" Kilkenny said.

"I was shocked. Mary Ellen sat up straight and said something along the line of, 'The books in the Wasilla Library collection were selected on the basis of national selection criteria for libraries of this size, and I would absolutely resist all efforts to ban books.'"

Palin didn't mention specific books at that meeting, Kilkenny said.

Palin herself, questioned at the time, called her inquiries rhetorical and simply part of a policy discussion with a department head "about understanding and following administration agendas," according to the Frontiersman article.

TEST OF LOYALTY

Were any books censored banned? June Pinell-Stephens, chairwoman of the Alaska Library Association's Intellectual Freedom Committee since 1984, checked her files Wednesday and came up empty-handed.

Pinell-Stephens also had no record of any phone conversations with Emmons about the issue back then. Emmons was president of the Alaska Library Association at the time.Books may not have been pulled from library shelves, but there were other repercussions for Emmons.

Four days before the exchange at the City Council, Emmons got a letter from Palin asking for her resignation. Similar letters went to police chief Irl Stambaugh, public works director Jack Felton and finance director Duane Dvorak. John Cooper, a fifth director, resigned after Palin eliminated his job overseeing the city museum.

Palin told the Daily News back then the letters were just a test of loyalty as she took on the mayor's job, which she'd won from three-term mayor John Stein in a hard-fought election. Stein had hired many of the department heads. Both Emmons and Stambaugh had publicly supported him against Palin.

Emmons survived the loyalty test and a second one a few months later. She resigned in August 1999, two months before Palin was voted in for a second mayoral term.

Palin might have become a household name in the last week, but Kilkenny, who is not a Palin fan, is on her own small path to Internet fame. She sent out an e-mail earlier this week to friends and family answering, from her perspective, the question Outsiders are asking any Alaskan they know: "Who is this Sarah Palin?"

Kilkenny's e-mail got bounced through cyberspace and ended up on news blogs. Now the small-town mom and housewife is scheduling interviews with national news media and got her name on the front page of The New York Times, even if it was misspelled.



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Find Daily News reporter Rindi White online at www.adn.com/contact/rwhite or call 352-6709.

http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/story/515512.html
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catwoman96's photo
Sat 09/06/08 10:29 PM
Edited by catwoman96 on Sat 09/06/08 10:29 PM


bigsmile ok gotcha Chaz.:banana: But it is a little disturbing to hear that she asked about banning books "as a test". what Why would someone do that?what Its just strange.shocked


That I agree with. It is disturbing that she would consider banning books. It scares me.

But posting this list and associating it with her is BS.



obviously this list was purely FICTIONAL.
makes u question the crediablity of the librarian to begin with.
not palin

screw the media...facts are always subjective anymore and must be interpreted with caution.

TJN's photo
Sat 09/06/08 10:29 PM

The library is a socialistic program. I can't believe she doesn't try to ban libraries.
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madisonman's photo
Sat 09/06/08 10:34 PM
Well, I guess these are out:

Orwell's "1984" (gives away the plot against us)

Darwin's "Origin of the Species"

George Monbiot's "Heat" (explains anthropogenic global warming)

Joe Conason's "Big Lies" (exposes the myth of the "liberal media")

Barack Obama "Dreams of my Father"

William Greider "Who Will Tell the People?" (on bungled Republican economics)

:wink:

catwoman96's photo
Sat 09/06/08 10:37 PM
i wouldnt read them I dont think..
but madman..im sure u are free to check them out of almost any library that ya want to!

i have a nice reading list..I'd like you to check out!!!

catwoman96's photo
Sat 09/06/08 10:40 PM

rofl rofl rofl rofl


What can I say...

Just because she wanted to ban books?

Decency prevents me from saying what I'd really like to say.

Oh well...

I guess I shouldn't worry so much about Palin wanting to ban books when there are a whole lot of people walking around that clearly never read books.





Obviously someone doesn't read books and only believes insane propaganda from make believe web-siteshuh



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MirrorMirror's photo
Sat 09/06/08 10:43 PM

Well, I guess these are out:

Orwell's "1984" (gives away the plot against us)

Darwin's "Origin of the Species"

George Monbiot's "Heat" (explains anthropogenic global warming)

Joe Conason's "Big Lies" (exposes the myth of the "liberal media")

Barack Obama "Dreams of my Father"

William Greider "Who Will Tell the People?" (on bungled Republican economics)

:wink:
laugh Yeah ,we've been living in "1984" for a while nowlaugh

usernamefayou's photo
Sat 09/06/08 10:52 PM


The library is a socialistic program. I can't believe she doesn't try to ban libraries.
frustrated slaphead frustrated slaphead frustrated


heh heh heh

Just vote democratic so we have a very small shot at socialized health care. I'd never trust a doctor out to make cash and protect themselves first--insurance and such--evil bastards one and all. Then again, the times I've ever gone to a clinic I could have just gone to a witch doctor.

no photo
Sun 09/07/08 05:47 AM
Edited by singmesweet on Sun 09/07/08 05:54 AM

And we shouldn't like her based on her wanting to ban books? PlEEEEEEEEEEEEZE!!noway


It's just another thing to add to the list of what I don't like about her. Even attempting to ban books is scary.

Chazster's photo
Sun 09/07/08 06:09 AM


Dude, there is no need to clutter up the whole forum with cut and paste stuff from the article. If they want to go read it they can.

No, we wouldn't want to clutter the forums with facts.


You can discuss the facts w/o copy pasting the whole article. You can post the link "which I did" and people can read it.

Chazster's photo
Sun 09/07/08 06:12 AM


And we shouldn't like her based on her wanting to ban books? PlEEEEEEEEEEEEZE!!noway


It's just another thing to add to the list of what I don't like about her. Even attempting to ban books is scary.


LOL, she didn't even attempt. Voters were concerned about certain books. She ask the librarian if she would consider doing it if they needed to. It was basically a hypothetical.

As a mayor, you don't make decisions because "you" want to, you do it because your citizens want you to. The articles never mention her personal feelings towards book banning.

s1owhand's photo
Sun 09/07/08 06:31 AM
it's a fabrication.

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/06/the-bogus-sarah-palin-banned-books-list/

t22learner's photo
Sun 09/07/08 06:33 AM

it's a fabrication.

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/06/the-bogus-sarah-palin-banned-books-list/

Dude, michellemalkin.com? The little pit-bull of right-wing hate?

Chazster's photo
Sun 09/07/08 06:37 AM


it's a fabrication.

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/06/the-bogus-sarah-palin-banned-books-list/

Dude, michellemalkin.com? The little pit-bull of right-wing hate?

LOL, what are you complaining about. The original post was taken from a blog site that even stated there was no evidence to support the list.

t22learner's photo
Sun 09/07/08 06:52 AM
"Who's for Eva Braun here?"

http://www.destinationhollywood.com/avis/fieldofdreams_clip08.mov

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