Topic: THe Ann Coulter thread
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Fri 09/05/08 02:59 PM



Hummmmm living in the past and trying to analaze what happen back when does nothing for what is going on today or what will happen in the future. Trying to find others faults only shows others to look more towards the messager instead.

The past is the past we should learn to live for today and the future instead. JMO

Seems most of these threads in Politics are too ready to tear apart what happen in the past but have no solutions on how to fix them in the future.


To slam another through words is never the way to go about things either just poor Politic Behavior at it's best.noway


flowerforyou well said flowerforyou

it is so much easier to point fingers and pass blame but to take the initiative to make changes or provide solutions or hell to provide complete data/info would be nicer than 1/2 truths or biased info.

but to each their own

Nice to hear someone say something sensible


:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

madisonman's photo
Fri 09/05/08 04:41 PM
"If John Kerry had a dollar for every time he bragged about serving in Vietnam -- oh wait, he does."
wow Ann just switch the name to Mccain on this one

Zapchaser's photo
Fri 09/05/08 08:26 PM


Ann Coulter is a loudmouth ignoramus who spouts her outrageous nationalist inaccuracies on American television with little challenge from the empty talking heads who interview her. But she finally found someone to stand up to her, in Canada--and she was exposed for the arrogant fool she is. Interviewed by the Canadian Broadcasting Company's Bob McKeown for the investigative TV broadcast "The Fifth Estate," which devoted an hour-long January 26 special to how U.S. media have been highjacked by conservative bullies, Coulter was berating Canada for not sending troops to Iraq when she displayed her empty-headedness in the following exchange:

Coulter: "Canada used to be one of our most loyal friends and vice-versa. I mean Canada sent troops to Vietnam - was Vietnam less containable and more of a threat than Saddam Hussein?"

McKeown interrupts: "Canada didn't send troops to Vietnam."

Coulter: "I don't think that's right."

McKeown: "Canada did not send troops to Vietnam."

Coulter (looking desperate): "Indochina?"

McKeown: "Uh no. Canada ...second World War of course. Korea. Yes. Vietnam No."

Coulter: "I think you're wrong."

McKeown: "No, took a pass on Vietnam."

Coulter: "I think you're wrong."

McKeown: "No, Australia was there, not Canada."

Coulter: "I think Canada sent troops."

McKeown: "No."

Coulter: "Well. I'll get back to you on that."

McKeown tags out in script:

"Coulter never got back to us -- but for the record, like Iraq, Canada sent no troops to Vietnam."

You can see the entire exchange by clicking here.

Of course, Coulter was dead wrong. In fact, Canada's attitude toward America's war in Vietnam was extremely critical under several governments of our neighbor to the north. For example, when Prime Minister Lester Pearson--who'd won a Nobel Peace Prize for his role in defusing the '50s Suez crisis-- gave an April 2, 1965 speech at Temple University calling for a pause in U.S. bombing of Vietnam, he was the subject of rather notorious treatment by Lyndon Johnson at their subsequent meeting: LBJ grabbed the much smaller Canadian by the lapels, lifted him off the floor, and hollered, "You pissed on my rug!"

Pearson's successor, Pierre Trudeau, signaled his attitude toward the war in Vietnam when he granted political asylum to tens of thousands of draft-age Americans who fled to Canada to avoid having to fight in Vietnam, saying: "'Those who make the conscientious judgment that they must not participate in this war ... have my complete sympathy, and indeed our political approach has been to give them access to Canada. Canada should be a refuge from militarism." (How one wishes the current prime minister, Paul Martin, would take the same position with regard to those war resisters in uniform who have gone to Canada because of their opposition to what the U.S. is doing in Iraq.)

This is hardly the first time Coulter has invented "facts." To take just one more example, David Corn last year wrote a Nation web-post recounting how Coulter claimed, on the Chris Matthews Show, that George C. Scott had turned down his Oscar for the movie "Patton" because he was protesting the "critical" treatment of the general by Hollywood liberals. And even when Matthews challenged her on it and told her why she was wrong, she persisted in her falsehood.

The historically ignorant Coulter should be hiding in shame, and owes the Canadians an apology for insisting on her blatant untruth--while network bookers who continue to invite her to guest on their shows should be hiding under their desks if they maintain this empty-headed, epithet-throwing fictionalist on their rosters. (Thanks to the Canadian correspondent of This Is Rumor Control for spotting and providing the transcript of Coulter's on-air comeuppance).


http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0206-23.htm


Once again madboy, your ignorance is overshadowed by your anger.Absolutely disgusting. grumble

Wiki:
Canadian troops in Vietnam

Despite the repeated denials by CBC's interviewer, Canada DID send troops to Vietnam. The facts are well-documented and beyond dispute. The interviewer constantly repeats his assertions, but no other source supports them. These facts contradict him:

* The Canadian government sent troops to Vietnam in August 1954 during the partition of Vietnam. They stayed through January 1973. They incurred casualties and several deaths. Confirmation and further details appear in the articles on International Control Commission and International Commission of Control and Supervision, both of which contain extensive links and references.

* The government of Canada awarded medals to 1,550 of these troops for their service between August 7, 1954 and January 28, 1973. You can see the details HERE. A second medal was also awarded to the 240 Canadian troops who participated in Operation Gallant in Vietnam from January 28, 1973 to July 31, 1973. Details HERE.

* Many official Canadian government documents about the International Control Commission for Vietnam (a mixture of Canadian troops and Canadian civilians) are available on the Internet and elsewhere. Some of them can be found HERE.

Canadian military personnel who died while in Vietnam or other parts of Indochina include:

* Sergeant James S. BYRNE, CD, Royal Canadian Army Service Corps. Died 18 Oct 1965. His body was not recovered.
* Corporal Vernon J. PERKINS, Royal Highland Regiment of Canada (Black Watch). Died 18 Oct 1965. His body was not recovered.
* Leading Seaman Ned W. MEMNOOK, HMCS TERRA NOVA. Died 15 Mar 1973. He was posthumously awarded the Special Service Medal & "PEACE" Clasp
* Captain Charles E. LAVIOLETTE, CD, 12e Regiment Blinde du Canada. Died 7 Apr 1973.

madisonman's photo
Fri 09/05/08 08:38 PM
The Canadiana government never sent troops to vietnam but some canadian troops volunteerd to serve in Nam with US forces. so technicaly I am right. I see no reasone to start calling me ignorant But nice try

Zapchaser's photo
Fri 09/05/08 09:07 PM

The Canadiana government never sent troops to vietnam but some canadian troops volunteerd to serve in Nam with US forces. so technicaly I am right. I see no reasone to start calling me ignorant But nice try

Not starting...... merely continuing.noway

madisonman's photo
Fri 09/05/08 09:28 PM


The Canadiana government never sent troops to vietnam but some canadian troops volunteerd to serve in Nam with US forces. so technicaly I am right. I see no reasone to start calling me ignorant But nice try

Not starting...... merely continuing.noway
So did the Canadian government send men under the canadian flag no they did not. I do not doubt you found some loony right wing website so spin the story of some canadian troops who voluntered to serve in Nam. The Canadian government never did send anyone. Have a good night

madisonman's photo
Fri 09/05/08 09:33 PM



Ann Coulter is a loudmouth ignoramus who spouts her outrageous nationalist inaccuracies on American television with little challenge from the empty talking heads who interview her. But she finally found someone to stand up to her, in Canada--and she was exposed for the arrogant fool she is. Interviewed by the Canadian Broadcasting Company's Bob McKeown for the investigative TV broadcast "The Fifth Estate," which devoted an hour-long January 26 special to how U.S. media have been highjacked by conservative bullies, Coulter was berating Canada for not sending troops to Iraq when she displayed her empty-headedness in the following exchange:

Coulter: "Canada used to be one of our most loyal friends and vice-versa. I mean Canada sent troops to Vietnam - was Vietnam less containable and more of a threat than Saddam Hussein?"

McKeown interrupts: "Canada didn't send troops to Vietnam."

Coulter: "I don't think that's right."

McKeown: "Canada did not send troops to Vietnam."

Coulter (looking desperate): "Indochina?"

McKeown: "Uh no. Canada ...second World War of course. Korea. Yes. Vietnam No."

Coulter: "I think you're wrong."

McKeown: "No, took a pass on Vietnam."

Coulter: "I think you're wrong."

McKeown: "No, Australia was there, not Canada."

Coulter: "I think Canada sent troops."

McKeown: "No."

Coulter: "Well. I'll get back to you on that."

McKeown tags out in script:

"Coulter never got back to us -- but for the record, like Iraq, Canada sent no troops to Vietnam."

You can see the entire exchange by clicking here.

Of course, Coulter was dead wrong. In fact, Canada's attitude toward America's war in Vietnam was extremely critical under several governments of our neighbor to the north. For example, when Prime Minister Lester Pearson--who'd won a Nobel Peace Prize for his role in defusing the '50s Suez crisis-- gave an April 2, 1965 speech at Temple University calling for a pause in U.S. bombing of Vietnam, he was the subject of rather notorious treatment by Lyndon Johnson at their subsequent meeting: LBJ grabbed the much smaller Canadian by the lapels, lifted him off the floor, and hollered, "You pissed on my rug!"

Pearson's successor, Pierre Trudeau, signaled his attitude toward the war in Vietnam when he granted political asylum to tens of thousands of draft-age Americans who fled to Canada to avoid having to fight in Vietnam, saying: "'Those who make the conscientious judgment that they must not participate in this war ... have my complete sympathy, and indeed our political approach has been to give them access to Canada. Canada should be a refuge from militarism." (How one wishes the current prime minister, Paul Martin, would take the same position with regard to those war resisters in uniform who have gone to Canada because of their opposition to what the U.S. is doing in Iraq.)

This is hardly the first time Coulter has invented "facts." To take just one more example, David Corn last year wrote a Nation web-post recounting how Coulter claimed, on the Chris Matthews Show, that George C. Scott had turned down his Oscar for the movie "Patton" because he was protesting the "critical" treatment of the general by Hollywood liberals. And even when Matthews challenged her on it and told her why she was wrong, she persisted in her falsehood.

The historically ignorant Coulter should be hiding in shame, and owes the Canadians an apology for insisting on her blatant untruth--while network bookers who continue to invite her to guest on their shows should be hiding under their desks if they maintain this empty-headed, epithet-throwing fictionalist on their rosters. (Thanks to the Canadian correspondent of This Is Rumor Control for spotting and providing the transcript of Coulter's on-air comeuppance).


http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0206-23.htm


Once again madboy, your ignorance is overshadowed by your anger.Absolutely disgusting. grumble

Wiki:
Canadian troops in Vietnam

Despite the repeated denials by CBC's interviewer, Canada DID send troops to Vietnam. The facts are well-documented and beyond dispute. The interviewer constantly repeats his assertions, but no other source supports them. These facts contradict him:

* The Canadian government sent troops to Vietnam in August 1954 during the partition of Vietnam. They stayed through January 1973. They incurred casualties and several deaths. Confirmation and further details appear in the articles on International Control Commission and International Commission of Control and Supervision, both of which contain extensive links and references.

* The government of Canada awarded medals to 1,550 of these troops for their service between August 7, 1954 and January 28, 1973. You can see the details HERE. A second medal was also awarded to the 240 Canadian troops who participated in Operation Gallant in Vietnam from January 28, 1973 to July 31, 1973. Details HERE.

* Many official Canadian government documents about the International Control Commission for Vietnam (a mixture of Canadian troops and Canadian civilians) are available on the Internet and elsewhere. Some of them can be found HERE.

Canadian military personnel who died while in Vietnam or other parts of Indochina include:

* Sergeant James S. BYRNE, CD, Royal Canadian Army Service Corps. Died 18 Oct 1965. His body was not recovered.
* Corporal Vernon J. PERKINS, Royal Highland Regiment of Canada (Black Watch). Died 18 Oct 1965. His body was not recovered.
* Leading Seaman Ned W. MEMNOOK, HMCS TERRA NOVA. Died 15 Mar 1973. He was posthumously awarded the Special Service Medal & "PEACE" Clasp
* Captain Charles E. LAVIOLETTE, CD, 12e Regiment Blinde du Canada. Died 7 Apr 1973.

Dont see a reasone to call me madboy or say Iam ignorant when the facts are on my side. Have a great night etc etc

madisonman's photo
Fri 09/05/08 09:39 PM
Canada did not fight in the Vietnam War, and diplomatically it was officially "non-belligerent". The country's troop deployments to Vietnam were limited to a small number of peacekeeping forces in 1973.[1] Nevertheless, the war had considerable effects on Canada, while Canada and Canadians affected the war, in return.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_and_the_Vietnam_War

no photo
Sat 09/06/08 10:04 AM


Canada did not fight in the Vietnam War, and diplomatically it was officially "non-belligerent". The country's troop deployments to Vietnam were limited to a small number of peacekeeping forces in 1973.[1] Nevertheless, the war had considerable effects on Canada, while Canada and Canadians affected the war, in return.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_and_the_Vietnam_War

You would argue about the color of a piece of dog crap wouldn't you madboy? What a dull existence yours must be.


the man has presented a counter-point to your argument and all you can resort to is name calling??...Class, real class....what a pathetic waste of space...

Zapchaser's photo
Sat 09/06/08 10:36 AM



Canada did not fight in the Vietnam War, and diplomatically it was officially "non-belligerent". The country's troop deployments to Vietnam were limited to a small number of peacekeeping forces in 1973.[1] Nevertheless, the war had considerable effects on Canada, while Canada and Canadians affected the war, in return.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_and_the_Vietnam_War

You would argue about the color of a piece of dog crap wouldn't you madboy? What a dull existence yours must be.


the man has presented a counter-point to your argument and all you can resort to is name calling??...Class, real class....what a pathetic waste of space...

Have you looked in the mirror lately?laugh
He isn't here to PRESENT anything beyond rhetoric and hatred. Uh, kinda like you eh? I refuse to engage in discussions with fanatics. They will not see beyond their hatred. Kinda like you eh? They think that a dating forum is a place to spew venomous hatred. Their goal is to be a fly in your soup. As far as your waste of space comment? We had that. She moved to South America.yawn

madisonman's photo
Sat 09/06/08 12:05 PM
Its pretty simple the page zapchaser posted from is a USERPAGE if he would have put the link up you would have seen that. my info is from the official wikpedia site. there is no point to be made on this.

madisonman's photo
Sat 09/06/08 12:19 PM


Canada did not fight in the Vietnam War, and diplomatically it was officially "non-belligerent". The country's troop deployments to Vietnam were limited to a small number of peacekeeping forces in 1973.[1] Nevertheless, the war had considerable effects on Canada, while Canada and Canadians affected the war, in return.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_and_the_Vietnam_War

You would argue about the color of a piece of dog crap wouldn't you madboy? What a dull existence yours must be.
actualy my morning was eventfull I changed a brake line on my daughters carwith a buddy of 2o years and this evening Iam going to the winery with the girlfriend.

madisonman's photo
Sat 09/06/08 12:28 PM


Its pretty simple the page zapchaser posted from is a USERPAGE if he would have put the link up you would have seen that. my info is from the official wikpedia site. there is no point to be made on this.

OFFICIAL Wikipedia? laugh Delusional.
here User:Lou Sander/Canadian Troops - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
But for the record, like Iraq, Canada sent no troops to Vietnam. ... The Canadian government sent troops to Vietnam in August 1954 during the partition of Vietnam. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lou_Sander/Canadian_Troops - Cachedis your info eh?? from USer

madisonman's photo
Sat 09/06/08 12:32 PM
Edited by madisonman on Sat 09/06/08 12:32 PM
Canadians "better hope the United States doesn't roll over one night and crush them. They are lucky we allow them to exist on the same continent." [11/30/04]
Ann Coulter

madisonman's photo
Sat 09/06/08 04:00 PM



Canada did not fight in the Vietnam War, and diplomatically it was officially "non-belligerent". The country's troop deployments to Vietnam were limited to a small number of peacekeeping forces in 1973.[1] Nevertheless, the war had considerable effects on Canada, while Canada and Canadians affected the war, in return.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_and_the_Vietnam_War

You would argue about the color of a piece of dog crap wouldn't you madboy? What a dull existence yours must be.


the man has presented a counter-point to your argument and all you can resort to is name calling??...Class, real class....what a pathetic waste of space...
flowerforyou

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Sat 09/06/08 10:37 PM
"My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building."
Ann Coulter

kerbear73's photo
Mon 09/08/08 12:49 AM
Too bad Ann Coulter is not on this site, She is one Hot Conservative. I bet Hillary would Cross the parties for a night with her........ Not To mention, Bill and his magical Cigars.....

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Mon 09/08/08 07:52 AM

Too bad Ann Coulter is not on this site, She is one Hot Conservative. I bet Hillary would Cross the parties for a night with her........ Not To mention, Bill and his magical Cigars.....


bet you were the "star ace" in your high school debate team..
rofl

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Mon 09/08/08 03:50 PM
Wow, the libs are *****y more than ever tonight....

t22learner's photo
Mon 09/08/08 03:54 PM

Wow, the libs are *****y more than ever tonight....

Dude, Ann Coulter is sub-human.