Topic: Pro Lifers want to control your life
Zapchaser's photo
Fri 08/29/08 10:34 PM






Please provide links to support your opinion that the Republicans don't even want the vaccine to exist as it promotes promiscuity.


i read it in the paper here in LA sorry dont have a link.

Then state that it is your opinion so others aren't misled. flowerforyou

If you have the paper's name and approximate date that you read it I would be happy to research it for you.


the paper is called the Daily Breeze. dont know the date.

Thanks Dredz, I'll do a query. drinker

Dragoness's photo
Fri 08/29/08 10:35 PM












who the hell gave you the right to TRY to control my life?
You did!


that makes no sence


It is not that they want to control your life, its that they have a different opinion on when life begins. By having an abortion you are killing something, why do you think you have the right to kill it? (not trying to take a side, I am really just asking this question)

For the HPV do they want to make it illegal or not make it mandatory, because those are 2 different things.




if i have a tumor i have the right to cut it off. its growing on me ill do what i want. if i wanna chop my ear off and learn to paint. its my friggin ear right? if my girl feels that the best thing she can do for both of us considering the situation we are in then its her body and not the pro-lifers. they arent the ones who are going to have to care for the child. ive seen bombs at planned parenthoods. ive never seen lines at orphanages.

as for the hpv, they dont want to make it mandatory. they are making a heath issue into a political one because they want to control your sex life. after all if you have a child you get them shots for polio and tb and a host of others somehow preventing cervical cancer is a political issue?
I am still paying for you to cut off your ear, IS that something I want to pay for?? Hell NO! The parents should bear the burden of their kids shots, schools, ect... If the parent cannot or willnot take the resposibility of the kid, then someone has to.


ok point for point.
no one asked the government to pay for me to "cut my ear off"
in fact i dont know one case or one politician who supports that

your right parents should pay for their children. health insurance pays for shots unless you dont have it then the gov has clinics for low income people. if your a pro-lifer you should support life even after birth and stherefor support health care for the poor.

schools. the school system was started ages ago to establish a standard and provide school to every child even the poor. private schools are costly and since the standard says every child will go to school then every tax payer has been to school and thus pays for it.

and yes if parents dont care for their children then tax payers pay for that. so why get rid of abortion, which keeps a burden off a tax payer every time a woman has the right to choose to abort

Doesn't matter to me. Kill as many babies as you like. Don't take the easy way out by burning them with saline solution or sticking shears into their brain while they are half out of the womb so it can't be called murder, have fun with it! Have you considered inserting electrodes into the baby and turning the juice up slowly so they jump in the womb like a Mexican jumping bean? Now that would be fun! Wait! I have one! Keep poking an umbrella up there until a hand or leg falls out and take bets as to which part will fall out first. Yeah! I'm down for twenty bucks on an eyeball!huh


The old fearmongering, gruesome pro lifer rhetoric.
:angry: Not rhetoric- it is fact.
If you do not want the babies to be aborted, take them all in to your home and feed them all, cloth them all, school them all, support them all.
:angry: The American public is already paying for the irresponsibility of others.
Put a sign on the abortion clinic wall stating that you will willingly pay for the care of the mother throughout her whole pregnancy, pay her hospital and doctor costs, loss of work costs and then support the baby from birth till of age for all mothers coming to the clinic. I will gladly send them to you myself.
:angry: We are. In this state the program is called MN Care.

Although not a great choice it is and should be the choice of the mother. Until all children are cared for in this whole wide world and there is a shortage of children to adopt,
:angry: The waiting list for adoptions is years long.
I don't want to hear nothing from anyone about it.
:angry: Keep your head in the sand. You won't hear a thing.
Do your part and take in all these unwanted children so we can then discuss the subject of abortion and the possibility of the wanted children being aborted.
:angry: We are doing our thing by trying to have abstinence and other preventive measures taught but the right to be irresponsible and to have that irresponsibility funded by all is being trumpeted as we speak.



The states nor feds pay for abortions. Abortions are not funded by the government at any level. So how do you pay?

Like I said, adopt all the possibly aborted children and get all your friends of your ilk to do the same and the problem will be solved. Until then get out of other people's bodies and their personal business.

http://www.guttmacher.org/in-the-know/cost.html
13% of abortions are paid for by Medicaid. 13% by insurance carriers. Do the math. Billions of dollars of taxpayer's money paid for irresponsibility. As long as a hand is reaching into my wallet to steal from me I will most certainly get into their personal business.


That information is not accurate, try harder.

Zapchaser's photo
Fri 08/29/08 10:40 PM













who the hell gave you the right to TRY to control my life?
You did!


that makes no sence


It is not that they want to control your life, its that they have a different opinion on when life begins. By having an abortion you are killing something, why do you think you have the right to kill it? (not trying to take a side, I am really just asking this question)

For the HPV do they want to make it illegal or not make it mandatory, because those are 2 different things.




if i have a tumor i have the right to cut it off. its growing on me ill do what i want. if i wanna chop my ear off and learn to paint. its my friggin ear right? if my girl feels that the best thing she can do for both of us considering the situation we are in then its her body and not the pro-lifers. they arent the ones who are going to have to care for the child. ive seen bombs at planned parenthoods. ive never seen lines at orphanages.

as for the hpv, they dont want to make it mandatory. they are making a heath issue into a political one because they want to control your sex life. after all if you have a child you get them shots for polio and tb and a host of others somehow preventing cervical cancer is a political issue?
I am still paying for you to cut off your ear, IS that something I want to pay for?? Hell NO! The parents should bear the burden of their kids shots, schools, ect... If the parent cannot or willnot take the resposibility of the kid, then someone has to.


ok point for point.
no one asked the government to pay for me to "cut my ear off"
in fact i dont know one case or one politician who supports that

your right parents should pay for their children. health insurance pays for shots unless you dont have it then the gov has clinics for low income people. if your a pro-lifer you should support life even after birth and stherefor support health care for the poor.

schools. the school system was started ages ago to establish a standard and provide school to every child even the poor. private schools are costly and since the standard says every child will go to school then every tax payer has been to school and thus pays for it.

and yes if parents dont care for their children then tax payers pay for that. so why get rid of abortion, which keeps a burden off a tax payer every time a woman has the right to choose to abort

Doesn't matter to me. Kill as many babies as you like. Don't take the easy way out by burning them with saline solution or sticking shears into their brain while they are half out of the womb so it can't be called murder, have fun with it! Have you considered inserting electrodes into the baby and turning the juice up slowly so they jump in the womb like a Mexican jumping bean? Now that would be fun! Wait! I have one! Keep poking an umbrella up there until a hand or leg falls out and take bets as to which part will fall out first. Yeah! I'm down for twenty bucks on an eyeball!huh


The old fearmongering, gruesome pro lifer rhetoric.
:angry: Not rhetoric- it is fact.
If you do not want the babies to be aborted, take them all in to your home and feed them all, cloth them all, school them all, support them all.
:angry: The American public is already paying for the irresponsibility of others.
Put a sign on the abortion clinic wall stating that you will willingly pay for the care of the mother throughout her whole pregnancy, pay her hospital and doctor costs, loss of work costs and then support the baby from birth till of age for all mothers coming to the clinic. I will gladly send them to you myself.
:angry: We are. In this state the program is called MN Care.

Although not a great choice it is and should be the choice of the mother. Until all children are cared for in this whole wide world and there is a shortage of children to adopt,
:angry: The waiting list for adoptions is years long.
I don't want to hear nothing from anyone about it.
:angry: Keep your head in the sand. You won't hear a thing.
Do your part and take in all these unwanted children so we can then discuss the subject of abortion and the possibility of the wanted children being aborted.
:angry: We are doing our thing by trying to have abstinence and other preventive measures taught but the right to be irresponsible and to have that irresponsibility funded by all is being trumpeted as we speak.



The states nor feds pay for abortions. Abortions are not funded by the government at any level. So how do you pay?

Like I said, adopt all the possibly aborted children and get all your friends of your ilk to do the same and the problem will be solved. Until then get out of other people's bodies and their personal business.

http://www.guttmacher.org/in-the-know/cost.html
13% of abortions are paid for by Medicaid. 13% by insurance carriers. Do the math. Billions of dollars of taxpayer's money paid for irresponsibility. As long as a hand is reaching into my wallet to steal from me I will most certainly get into their personal business.


That information is not accurate, try harder.

Nope. It's your turn to exercise your fingers. The stats are there in black and white. Disprove them.

Zapchaser's photo
Fri 08/29/08 10:42 PM







Please provide links to support your opinion that the Republicans don't even want the vaccine to exist as it promotes promiscuity.


i read it in the paper here in LA sorry dont have a link.

Then state that it is your opinion so others aren't misled. flowerforyou

If you have the paper's name and approximate date that you read it I would be happy to research it for you.

Searched the last year and a half and there was a CDC report and an article that stated "U.S. health officials called for better screening, vaccination and prevention."

the paper is called the Daily Breeze. dont know the date.

Thanks Dredz, I'll do a query. drinker

Dragoness's photo
Fri 08/29/08 10:43 PM














who the hell gave you the right to TRY to control my life?
You did!


that makes no sence


It is not that they want to control your life, its that they have a different opinion on when life begins. By having an abortion you are killing something, why do you think you have the right to kill it? (not trying to take a side, I am really just asking this question)

For the HPV do they want to make it illegal or not make it mandatory, because those are 2 different things.




if i have a tumor i have the right to cut it off. its growing on me ill do what i want. if i wanna chop my ear off and learn to paint. its my friggin ear right? if my girl feels that the best thing she can do for both of us considering the situation we are in then its her body and not the pro-lifers. they arent the ones who are going to have to care for the child. ive seen bombs at planned parenthoods. ive never seen lines at orphanages.

as for the hpv, they dont want to make it mandatory. they are making a heath issue into a political one because they want to control your sex life. after all if you have a child you get them shots for polio and tb and a host of others somehow preventing cervical cancer is a political issue?
I am still paying for you to cut off your ear, IS that something I want to pay for?? Hell NO! The parents should bear the burden of their kids shots, schools, ect... If the parent cannot or willnot take the resposibility of the kid, then someone has to.


ok point for point.
no one asked the government to pay for me to "cut my ear off"
in fact i dont know one case or one politician who supports that

your right parents should pay for their children. health insurance pays for shots unless you dont have it then the gov has clinics for low income people. if your a pro-lifer you should support life even after birth and stherefor support health care for the poor.

schools. the school system was started ages ago to establish a standard and provide school to every child even the poor. private schools are costly and since the standard says every child will go to school then every tax payer has been to school and thus pays for it.

and yes if parents dont care for their children then tax payers pay for that. so why get rid of abortion, which keeps a burden off a tax payer every time a woman has the right to choose to abort

Doesn't matter to me. Kill as many babies as you like. Don't take the easy way out by burning them with saline solution or sticking shears into their brain while they are half out of the womb so it can't be called murder, have fun with it! Have you considered inserting electrodes into the baby and turning the juice up slowly so they jump in the womb like a Mexican jumping bean? Now that would be fun! Wait! I have one! Keep poking an umbrella up there until a hand or leg falls out and take bets as to which part will fall out first. Yeah! I'm down for twenty bucks on an eyeball!huh


The old fearmongering, gruesome pro lifer rhetoric.
:angry: Not rhetoric- it is fact.
If you do not want the babies to be aborted, take them all in to your home and feed them all, cloth them all, school them all, support them all.
:angry: The American public is already paying for the irresponsibility of others.
Put a sign on the abortion clinic wall stating that you will willingly pay for the care of the mother throughout her whole pregnancy, pay her hospital and doctor costs, loss of work costs and then support the baby from birth till of age for all mothers coming to the clinic. I will gladly send them to you myself.
:angry: We are. In this state the program is called MN Care.

Although not a great choice it is and should be the choice of the mother. Until all children are cared for in this whole wide world and there is a shortage of children to adopt,
:angry: The waiting list for adoptions is years long.
I don't want to hear nothing from anyone about it.
:angry: Keep your head in the sand. You won't hear a thing.
Do your part and take in all these unwanted children so we can then discuss the subject of abortion and the possibility of the wanted children being aborted.
:angry: We are doing our thing by trying to have abstinence and other preventive measures taught but the right to be irresponsible and to have that irresponsibility funded by all is being trumpeted as we speak.



The states nor feds pay for abortions. Abortions are not funded by the government at any level. So how do you pay?

Like I said, adopt all the possibly aborted children and get all your friends of your ilk to do the same and the problem will be solved. Until then get out of other people's bodies and their personal business.

http://www.guttmacher.org/in-the-know/cost.html
13% of abortions are paid for by Medicaid. 13% by insurance carriers. Do the math. Billions of dollars of taxpayer's money paid for irresponsibility. As long as a hand is reaching into my wallet to steal from me I will most certainly get into their personal business.


That information is not accurate, try harder.

Nope. It's your turn to exercise your fingers. The stats are there in black and white. Disprove them.


Here ya go:

What is the Hyde Amendment?

Passed by Congress in 1976, the Hyde Amendment excludes abortion from the comprehensive health care services provided to low-income people by the federal government through Medicaid. Congress has made some exceptions to the funding ban, which have varied over the years. At present, the federal Medicaid program mandates abortion funding in cases of rape or incest, as well as when a pregnant woman's life is endangered by a physical disorder, illness, or injury.

Most states have followed the federal government's lead in restricting public funding for abortion. Currently only seventeen states fund abortions for low-income women on the same or similar terms as other pregnancy-related and general health services. (See map.) Four of these states provide funding voluntarily (HI, MD, NY,1 and WA); in thirteen, courts interpreting their state constitutions have declared broad and independent protection for reproductive choice and have ordered nondiscriminatory public funding of abortion (AK, AZ, CA, CT, IL, MA, MN, MT, NJ, NM, OR, VT, and WV).2 Thirty-two of the remaining states pay for abortions for low-income women in cases of life-endangering circumstances, rape, or incest, as mandated by federal Medicaid law.3 (A handful of these states pay as well in cases of fetal impairment or when the pregnancy threatens "severe" health problems, but none provides reimbursement for all medically necessary abortions for low-income women.) Finally, one state (SD) fails even to comply with the Hyde Amendment, instead providing coverage only for lifesaving abortions.


Chew on it for a bit. Need real government information if you come against me.

Zapchaser's photo
Fri 08/29/08 10:47 PM
Edited by Zapchaser on Fri 08/29/08 10:47 PM















who the hell gave you the right to TRY to control my life?
You did!


that makes no sence


It is not that they want to control your life, its that they have a different opinion on when life begins. By having an abortion you are killing something, why do you think you have the right to kill it? (not trying to take a side, I am really just asking this question)

For the HPV do they want to make it illegal or not make it mandatory, because those are 2 different things.




if i have a tumor i have the right to cut it off. its growing on me ill do what i want. if i wanna chop my ear off and learn to paint. its my friggin ear right? if my girl feels that the best thing she can do for both of us considering the situation we are in then its her body and not the pro-lifers. they arent the ones who are going to have to care for the child. ive seen bombs at planned parenthoods. ive never seen lines at orphanages.

as for the hpv, they dont want to make it mandatory. they are making a heath issue into a political one because they want to control your sex life. after all if you have a child you get them shots for polio and tb and a host of others somehow preventing cervical cancer is a political issue?
I am still paying for you to cut off your ear, IS that something I want to pay for?? Hell NO! The parents should bear the burden of their kids shots, schools, ect... If the parent cannot or willnot take the resposibility of the kid, then someone has to.


ok point for point.
no one asked the government to pay for me to "cut my ear off"
in fact i dont know one case or one politician who supports that

your right parents should pay for their children. health insurance pays for shots unless you dont have it then the gov has clinics for low income people. if your a pro-lifer you should support life even after birth and stherefor support health care for the poor.

schools. the school system was started ages ago to establish a standard and provide school to every child even the poor. private schools are costly and since the standard says every child will go to school then every tax payer has been to school and thus pays for it.

and yes if parents dont care for their children then tax payers pay for that. so why get rid of abortion, which keeps a burden off a tax payer every time a woman has the right to choose to abort

Doesn't matter to me. Kill as many babies as you like. Don't take the easy way out by burning them with saline solution or sticking shears into their brain while they are half out of the womb so it can't be called murder, have fun with it! Have you considered inserting electrodes into the baby and turning the juice up slowly so they jump in the womb like a Mexican jumping bean? Now that would be fun! Wait! I have one! Keep poking an umbrella up there until a hand or leg falls out and take bets as to which part will fall out first. Yeah! I'm down for twenty bucks on an eyeball!huh


The old fearmongering, gruesome pro lifer rhetoric.
:angry: Not rhetoric- it is fact.
If you do not want the babies to be aborted, take them all in to your home and feed them all, cloth them all, school them all, support them all.
:angry: The American public is already paying for the irresponsibility of others.
Put a sign on the abortion clinic wall stating that you will willingly pay for the care of the mother throughout her whole pregnancy, pay her hospital and doctor costs, loss of work costs and then support the baby from birth till of age for all mothers coming to the clinic. I will gladly send them to you myself.
:angry: We are. In this state the program is called MN Care.

Although not a great choice it is and should be the choice of the mother. Until all children are cared for in this whole wide world and there is a shortage of children to adopt,
:angry: The waiting list for adoptions is years long.
I don't want to hear nothing from anyone about it.
:angry: Keep your head in the sand. You won't hear a thing.
Do your part and take in all these unwanted children so we can then discuss the subject of abortion and the possibility of the wanted children being aborted.
:angry: We are doing our thing by trying to have abstinence and other preventive measures taught but the right to be irresponsible and to have that irresponsibility funded by all is being trumpeted as we speak.



The states nor feds pay for abortions. Abortions are not funded by the government at any level. So how do you pay?

Like I said, adopt all the possibly aborted children and get all your friends of your ilk to do the same and the problem will be solved. Until then get out of other people's bodies and their personal business.

http://www.guttmacher.org/in-the-know/cost.html
13% of abortions are paid for by Medicaid. 13% by insurance carriers. Do the math. Billions of dollars of taxpayer's money paid for irresponsibility. As long as a hand is reaching into my wallet to steal from me I will most certainly get into their personal business.


That information is not accurate, try harder.

Nope. It's your turn to exercise your fingers. The stats are there in black and white. Disprove them.


Here ya go:

What is the Hyde Amendment?

Passed by Congress in 1976, the Hyde Amendment excludes abortion from the comprehensive health care services provided to low-income people by the federal government through Medicaid. Congress has made some exceptions to the funding ban, which have varied over the years. At present, the federal Medicaid program mandates abortion funding in cases of rape or incest, as well as when a pregnant woman's life is endangered by a physical disorder, illness, or injury.

Most states have followed the federal government's lead in restricting public funding for abortion. Currently only seventeen states fund abortions for low-income women on the same or similar terms as other pregnancy-related and general health services. (See map.) Four of these states provide funding voluntarily (HI, MD, NY,1 and WA); in thirteen, courts interpreting their state constitutions have declared broad and independent protection for reproductive choice and have ordered nondiscriminatory public funding of abortion (AK, AZ, CA, CT, IL, MA, MN, MT, NJ, NM, OR, VT, and WV).2 Thirty-two of the remaining states pay for abortions for low-income women in cases of life-endangering circumstances, rape, or incest, as mandated by federal Medicaid law.3 (A handful of these states pay as well in cases of fetal impairment or when the pregnancy threatens "severe" health problems, but none provides reimbursement for all medically necessary abortions for low-income women.) Finally, one state (SD) fails even to comply with the Hyde Amendment, instead providing coverage only for lifesaving abortions.


Chew on it for a bit. Need real government information if you come against me.

And the figure comes to..... get your paws out of the ice cream bucket for this one, 13%. Billions. Someone could buy a lot of Haagen Dasz with that much green! :banana:

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Fri 08/29/08 10:49 PM
http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/features/15248/grumble

Dredz_Hang_Low's photo
Fri 08/29/08 10:51 PM








Please provide links to support your opinion that the Republicans don't even want the vaccine to exist as it promotes promiscuity.


i read it in the paper here in LA sorry dont have a link.

Then state that it is your opinion so others aren't misled. flowerforyou

If you have the paper's name and approximate date that you read it I would be happy to research it for you.



the paper is called the Daily Breeze. dont know the date.

Thanks Dredz, I'll do a query. drinker

Searched the last year and a half and there was a CDC report and an article that stated "U.S. health officials called for better screening, vaccination and prevention."


yeah i dont know what article that is. the article i read was dealing with teen girls and hpv. try the breeze again and the LA times.

Dragoness's photo
Fri 08/29/08 10:55 PM
Edited by Dragoness on Fri 08/29/08 10:56 PM
















who the hell gave you the right to TRY to control my life?
You did!


that makes no sence


It is not that they want to control your life, its that they have a different opinion on when life begins. By having an abortion you are killing something, why do you think you have the right to kill it? (not trying to take a side, I am really just asking this question)

For the HPV do they want to make it illegal or not make it mandatory, because those are 2 different things.




if i have a tumor i have the right to cut it off. its growing on me ill do what i want. if i wanna chop my ear off and learn to paint. its my friggin ear right? if my girl feels that the best thing she can do for both of us considering the situation we are in then its her body and not the pro-lifers. they arent the ones who are going to have to care for the child. ive seen bombs at planned parenthoods. ive never seen lines at orphanages.

as for the hpv, they dont want to make it mandatory. they are making a heath issue into a political one because they want to control your sex life. after all if you have a child you get them shots for polio and tb and a host of others somehow preventing cervical cancer is a political issue?
I am still paying for you to cut off your ear, IS that something I want to pay for?? Hell NO! The parents should bear the burden of their kids shots, schools, ect... If the parent cannot or willnot take the resposibility of the kid, then someone has to.


ok point for point.
no one asked the government to pay for me to "cut my ear off"
in fact i dont know one case or one politician who supports that

your right parents should pay for their children. health insurance pays for shots unless you dont have it then the gov has clinics for low income people. if your a pro-lifer you should support life even after birth and stherefor support health care for the poor.

schools. the school system was started ages ago to establish a standard and provide school to every child even the poor. private schools are costly and since the standard says every child will go to school then every tax payer has been to school and thus pays for it.

and yes if parents dont care for their children then tax payers pay for that. so why get rid of abortion, which keeps a burden off a tax payer every time a woman has the right to choose to abort

Doesn't matter to me. Kill as many babies as you like. Don't take the easy way out by burning them with saline solution or sticking shears into their brain while they are half out of the womb so it can't be called murder, have fun with it! Have you considered inserting electrodes into the baby and turning the juice up slowly so they jump in the womb like a Mexican jumping bean? Now that would be fun! Wait! I have one! Keep poking an umbrella up there until a hand or leg falls out and take bets as to which part will fall out first. Yeah! I'm down for twenty bucks on an eyeball!huh


The old fearmongering, gruesome pro lifer rhetoric.
:angry: Not rhetoric- it is fact.
If you do not want the babies to be aborted, take them all in to your home and feed them all, cloth them all, school them all, support them all.
:angry: The American public is already paying for the irresponsibility of others.
Put a sign on the abortion clinic wall stating that you will willingly pay for the care of the mother throughout her whole pregnancy, pay her hospital and doctor costs, loss of work costs and then support the baby from birth till of age for all mothers coming to the clinic. I will gladly send them to you myself.
:angry: We are. In this state the program is called MN Care.

Although not a great choice it is and should be the choice of the mother. Until all children are cared for in this whole wide world and there is a shortage of children to adopt,
:angry: The waiting list for adoptions is years long.
I don't want to hear nothing from anyone about it.
:angry: Keep your head in the sand. You won't hear a thing.
Do your part and take in all these unwanted children so we can then discuss the subject of abortion and the possibility of the wanted children being aborted.
:angry: We are doing our thing by trying to have abstinence and other preventive measures taught but the right to be irresponsible and to have that irresponsibility funded by all is being trumpeted as we speak.



The states nor feds pay for abortions. Abortions are not funded by the government at any level. So how do you pay?

Like I said, adopt all the possibly aborted children and get all your friends of your ilk to do the same and the problem will be solved. Until then get out of other people's bodies and their personal business.

http://www.guttmacher.org/in-the-know/cost.html
13% of abortions are paid for by Medicaid. 13% by insurance carriers. Do the math. Billions of dollars of taxpayer's money paid for irresponsibility. As long as a hand is reaching into my wallet to steal from me I will most certainly get into their personal business.


That information is not accurate, try harder.

Nope. It's your turn to exercise your fingers. The stats are there in black and white. Disprove them.


Here ya go:

What is the Hyde Amendment?

Passed by Congress in 1976, the Hyde Amendment excludes abortion from the comprehensive health care services provided to low-income people by the federal government through Medicaid. Congress has made some exceptions to the funding ban, which have varied over the years. At present, the federal Medicaid program mandates abortion funding in cases of rape or incest, as well as when a pregnant woman's life is endangered by a physical disorder, illness, or injury.

Most states have followed the federal government's lead in restricting public funding for abortion. Currently only seventeen states fund abortions for low-income women on the same or similar terms as other pregnancy-related and general health services. (See map.) Four of these states provide funding voluntarily (HI, MD, NY,1 and WA); in thirteen, courts interpreting their state constitutions have declared broad and independent protection for reproductive choice and have ordered nondiscriminatory public funding of abortion (AK, AZ, CA, CT, IL, MA, MN, MT, NJ, NM, OR, VT, and WV).2 Thirty-two of the remaining states pay for abortions for low-income women in cases of life-endangering circumstances, rape, or incest, as mandated by federal Medicaid law.3 (A handful of these states pay as well in cases of fetal impairment or when the pregnancy threatens "severe" health problems, but none provides reimbursement for all medically necessary abortions for low-income women.) Finally, one state (SD) fails even to comply with the Hyde Amendment, instead providing coverage only for lifesaving abortions.


Chew on it for a bit. Need real government information if you come against me.

And the figure comes to..... get your paws out of the ice cream bucket for this one, 13%. Billions. Someone could buy a lot of Haagen Dasz with that much green! :banana:


So what your saying here, besides your obsession with ice cream, is that a thirteen year old girl has to have the concieved child from her father who molested her because you want to control her reproductive organs? Right?

Dragoness's photo
Fri 08/29/08 11:01 PM
Obviously the government does not support voluntary abortions in normal circumstances. So the issue is very much null and void unless you want to control others reproduction.

If you are bothered by it then adopt all the unwanted children, post it on the abortion clinic wall that you are willing to pay for all the mother's care and will adopt all the unwanted children so the women will not have the abortion.

Do it so your conscious can be clear.

Dredz_Hang_Low's photo
Fri 08/29/08 11:09 PM

http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/features/15248/grumble


im not sure how you feel about it but this is a fascinating article

madisonman's photo
Fri 08/29/08 11:31 PM

Obviously the government does not support voluntary abortions in normal circumstances. So the issue is very much null and void unless you want to control others reproduction.

If you are bothered by it then adopt all the unwanted children, post it on the abortion clinic wall that you are willing to pay for all the mother's care and will adopt all the unwanted children so the women will not have the abortion.

Do it so your conscious can be clear.
how verry interesting. I to will do my part to voluntarily fertalize all the eggs that would normaly just get wasted at the end of the month

catwoman96's photo
Fri 08/29/08 11:48 PM
huh huh huh

Chazster's photo
Sat 08/30/08 05:07 AM
Dragoness, you argue you want to do what you will to your body, thats good and all, but what about the babies body? That is not really yours. You of all people talk about the basic human rights to all people and that they all have the right to live. Well, some people believe that life starts at conception and if that is the case then their human rights start then.

I personally am against abortions, but I don't think its the federal governments job to tell people whether they can or can't.

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Sat 08/30/08 08:45 AM
please stop referring to the radical right's movement as "pro-life", since there is nothing about the movement to indicate that. These folks are pro death penalty, anti-gun control, war mongerers, fight tooth and nail against any kind of socialized health care, love to hunt, the list goes on and on when it come to quality (pro) of life issues

they are ANTI-CHOICE, pure and simple...this movement is dedicated to restricting a woman's autonomy and right to self rule..thats the bottom line, hiding behind biblical rehtoric just makes it sound nicer....

Chazster's photo
Sat 08/30/08 08:48 AM

please stop referring to the radical right's movement as "pro-life", since there is nothing about the movement to indicate that. These folks are pro death penalty, anti-gun control, war mongerers, fight tooth and nail against any kind of socialized health care, love to hunt, the list goes on and on when it come to quality (pro) of life issues

they are ANTI-CHOICE, pure and simple...this movement is dedicated to restricting a woman's autonomy and right to self rule..thats the bottom line, hiding behind biblical rehtoric just makes it sound nicer....


Just because someone is against abortion doesn't mean they support war or guns. It also doesn't make them religious either.

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Sat 08/30/08 08:51 AM


please stop referring to the radical right's movement as "pro-life", since there is nothing about the movement to indicate that. These folks are pro death penalty, anti-gun control, war mongerers, fight tooth and nail against any kind of socialized health care, love to hunt, the list goes on and on when it come to quality (pro) of life issues

they are ANTI-CHOICE, pure and simple...this movement is dedicated to restricting a woman's autonomy and right to self rule..thats the bottom line, hiding behind biblical rehtoric just makes it sound nicer....


Just because someone is against abortion doesn't mean they support war or guns. It also doesn't make them religious either.


doesnt mean they dont either

madisonman's photo
Sat 08/30/08 08:52 AM

please stop referring to the radical right's movement as "pro-life", since there is nothing about the movement to indicate that. These folks are pro death penalty, anti-gun control, war mongerers, fight tooth and nail against any kind of socialized health care, love to hunt, the list goes on and on when it come to quality (pro) of life issues

they are ANTI-CHOICE, pure and simple...this movement is dedicated to restricting a woman's autonomy and right to self rule..thats the bottom line, hiding behind biblical rehtoric just makes it sound nicer....
The rethuglicans need lots of kids born to fight in the wars they are planning

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Sat 08/30/08 08:56 AM

Here goes another post that will probably be pulled...
So why are you and I am presuming you are a man , so interested in a womans freedom or restriction on abortion..
It is a complex subject and depends on the personality involved and circumstances..
I would never do it ,would never help do it or ever help pass a law that encourages it.
I am asking why you want it to be a option when the life of the child or mother are not in jeopardy. Birth control maybe?
Option out for child support payments? Tell me but do not use the excuse that government is trying to control you...You have the option of birth control, men and women, so why are birth rates up among teens and teenage abortions up..Lack of control...sad but true and then we get cussed out for trying to control...
Abortion kills...are you pro gun...
I chose to err on the side of the life to be and not the corpse to be..


Let's not forget about partial birth abortions... that killing life. Talk about disgusting???

There should be restrictions on abortion. Medically neccessary is too broad & now abortion is run amok in this nation. That's a woman's POV speaking here.

Maybe people in general should stop playing it so fast & loose then it would elliminate the need for abortions. Yu think?

It doesn't end by saying "it's my body"...it ends when people show some self respect & discipline enough to take precautions & think about what they are doing & the consequences.

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Sat 08/30/08 08:59 AM


Here goes another post that will probably be pulled...
So why are you and I am presuming you are a man , so interested in a womans freedom or restriction on abortion..
It is a complex subject and depends on the personality involved and circumstances..
I would never do it ,would never help do it or ever help pass a law that encourages it.
I am asking why you want it to be a option when the life of the child or mother are not in jeopardy. Birth control maybe?
Option out for child support payments? Tell me but do not use the excuse that government is trying to control you...You have the option of birth control, men and women, so why are birth rates up among teens and teenage abortions up..Lack of control...sad but true and then we get cussed out for trying to control...
Abortion kills...are you pro gun...
I chose to err on the side of the life to be and not the corpse to be..


Let's not forget about partial birth abortions... that killing life. Talk about disgusting???

There should be restrictions on abortion. Medically neccessary is too broad & now abortion is run amok in this nation. That's a woman's POV speaking here.

Maybe people in general should stop playing it so fast & loose then it would elliminate the need for abortions. Yu think?

It doesn't end by saying "it's my body"...it ends when people show some self respect & discipline enough to take precautions & think about what they are doing & the consequences.

geeze lady, what color is the sky in the world you live in???