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Topic: Free atlast ..Free atlast..!!
MirrorMirror's photo
Wed 08/27/08 06:49 AM

The Count will pass a law so that everyone will have to wear a cape.

Beware the man in a cape. He must be up to no good.

I think I will go get my cape and hat out now.
laugh laugh laugh flowerforyou

respectfull_man's photo
Thu 08/28/08 02:43 AM

The Count will pass a law so that everyone will have to wear a cape.

Beware the man in a cape. He must be up to no good.

I think I will go get my cape and hat out now.


Healthcare in the state is crap it need sorting out the us need to start taking care of it own ...drinker

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Thu 08/28/08 06:38 AM

"Free healthcare" is an Orwellian term that is laced with deception and dishonesty. There is no such thing as "free" healthcare. Someone will always pay for it, unless all doctors decided to just treat for nothing, but judging as they need to provide for their welfare, security and families, that is an unrealistic and ridiculous expectation. The truth remains that it is socialized medicine which is funded through government theft upon the individual's assets. Taxing the labor/assets of everyone for universal healthcare is morally wrong.

And don't give me that left-wing crap about "well in Europe we could ________". This isn't Europe. Here in the states, we actually have some vestige of respect for the individual and the concept of liberty.

:banana: Ding ding ding! This man gets the door prize. :banana: drinker

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Thu 08/28/08 02:58 PM


"Free healthcare" is an Orwellian term that is laced with deception and dishonesty. There is no such thing as "free" healthcare. Someone will always pay for it, unless all doctors decided to just treat for nothing, but judging as they need to provide for their welfare, security and families, that is an unrealistic and ridiculous expectation. The truth remains that it is socialized medicine which is funded through government theft upon the individual's assets. Taxing the labor/assets of everyone for universal healthcare is morally wrong.

And don't give me that left-wing crap about "well in Europe we could ________". This isn't Europe. Here in the states, we actually have some vestige of respect for the individual and the concept of liberty.

:banana: Ding ding ding! This man gets the door prize. :banana: drinker




full time ....obama free up healthcare .....ahah .

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Thu 08/28/08 03:25 PM
I the good old days, most EMPLOYERS in the US provided health care for their employees as an incentive to attract and retain good workers.

As the cost of health care increased, many EMPLOYERS eliminated this benefit and put the responsibility back on the employee or the gov't.

The new generation of EMPLOYEE does not care about corporate benefits and has taken the attitude of "show me the money"! they are young and healthy and don't care about benefits.

Now we find that there are millions of people who need some type of health care when a catastrophic illness strikes.

People in this country, especially the south, have turned ANTI-UNION and they wonder why they have no health care?

Why not REQUIRE EMPLOYERS to provide health care for their employees? We already reqire them to provide Workmens Comp and various other insurances. Almost everyone pays into Social Security and Medicare.

People in this country need to wake up and quit acting like a bunch of Chinese slave laborers. We are Americans!

I know the argument you will hear will be employers CANNOT afford to pay health care premiums for employees. DON'T kid yourself. What they are saying is that they do NOT care about you or value you as an employee.

Employees need to negotiate these benefits from their employers. Demand they provide insurance.

If the employers threaten to move the company overseas, slap such a heavy tarriff on the products it will make their head spin. We are the greatest nation of consumers and they know it.

WE MUST ALL HANG TOGETHER OR WE WILL HANG SEPARATELY

Stay United as Americans. Don't buy into the propaganda.


cutelildevilsmom's photo
Thu 08/28/08 03:33 PM

I the good old days, most EMPLOYERS in the US provided health care for their employees as an incentive to attract and retain good workers.

As the cost of health care increased, many EMPLOYERS eliminated this benefit and put the responsibility back on the employee or the gov't.

The new generation of EMPLOYEE does not care about corporate benefits and has taken the attitude of "show me the money"! they are young and healthy and don't care about benefits.

Now we find that there are millions of people who need some type of health care when a catastrophic illness strikes.

People in this country, especially the south, have turned ANTI-UNION and they wonder why they have no health care?

Why not REQUIRE EMPLOYERS to provide health care for their employees? We already reqire them to provide Workmens Comp and various other insurances. Almost everyone pays into Social Security and Medicare.

People in this country need to wake up and quit acting like a bunch of Chinese slave laborers. We are Americans!

I know the argument you will hear will be employers CANNOT afford to pay health care premiums for employees. DON'T kid yourself. What they are saying is that they do NOT care about you or value you as an employee.

Employees need to negotiate these benefits from their employers. Demand they provide insurance.

If the employers threaten to move the company overseas, slap such a heavy tarriff on the products it will make their head spin. We are the greatest nation of consumers and they know it.

WE MUST ALL HANG TOGETHER OR WE WILL HANG SEPARATELY

Stay United as Americans. Don't buy into the propaganda.



Amen brotha!!!

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Thu 08/28/08 05:43 PM

I the good old days, most EMPLOYERS in the US provided health care for their employees as an incentive to attract and retain good workers.

As the cost of health care increased, many EMPLOYERS eliminated this benefit and put the responsibility back on the employee or the gov't.

The new generation of EMPLOYEE does not care about corporate benefits and has taken the attitude of "show me the money"! they are young and healthy and don't care about benefits.

Now we find that there are millions of people who need some type of health care when a catastrophic illness strikes.

People in this country, especially the south, have turned ANTI-UNION and they wonder why they have no health care?

Why not REQUIRE EMPLOYERS to provide health care for their employees? We already reqire them to provide Workmens Comp and various other insurances. Almost everyone pays into Social Security and Medicare.

People in this country need to wake up and quit acting like a bunch of Chinese slave laborers. We are Americans!

I know the argument you will hear will be employers CANNOT afford to pay health care premiums for employees. DON'T kid yourself. What they are saying is that they do NOT care about you or value you as an employee.

Employees need to negotiate these benefits from their employers. Demand they provide insurance.

If the employers threaten to move the company overseas, slap such a heavy tarriff on the products it will make their head spin. We are the greatest nation of consumers and they know it.

WE MUST ALL HANG TOGETHER OR WE WILL HANG SEPARATELY

Stay United as Americans. Don't buy into the propaganda.


I agree that unions have been unfairly criticized in many capacities (in others, they are as guilty as charged), but mandating healthcare benefits from employers? Are you insane? If a person works and does not get healthcare benefits then they are free to pick up and go to a job that does. That's the way the free market works. Injecting the government into the equation just makes things more costly and puts smaller business owners in the gutter.

I work a 60k+ job where I get no benefits, and I am MORE than capable of affording separate health insurance. Granted, I also do a whole lot of investing, but if I wanted benefits, I wouldn't have taken the current job I have.

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Fri 08/29/08 09:12 PM
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I the good old days, most EMPLOYERS in the US provided health care for their employees as an incentive to attract and retain good workers.

As the cost of health care increased, many EMPLOYERS eliminated this benefit and put the responsibility back on the employee or the gov't.

The new generation of EMPLOYEE does not care about corporate benefits and has taken the attitude of "show me the money"! they are young and healthy and don't care about benefits.

Now we find that there are millions of people who need some type of health care when a catastrophic illness strikes.

People in this country, especially the south, have turned ANTI-UNION and they wonder why they have no health care?

Why not REQUIRE EMPLOYERS to provide health care for their employees? We already reqire them to provide Workmens Comp and various other insurances. Almost everyone pays into Social Security and Medicare.

People in this country need to wake up and quit acting like a bunch of Chinese slave laborers. We are Americans!

I know the argument you will hear will be employers CANNOT afford to pay health care premiums for employees. DON'T kid yourself. What they are saying is that they do NOT care about you or value you as an employee.

Employees need to negotiate these benefits from their employers. Demand they provide insurance.

If the employers threaten to move the company overseas, slap such a heavy tarriff on the products it will make their head spin. We are the greatest nation of consumers and they know it.

WE MUST ALL HANG TOGETHER OR WE WILL HANG SEPARATELY

Stay United as Americans. Don't buy into the propaganda.


I agree that unions have been unfairly criticized in many capacities (in others, they are as guilty as charged), but mandating healthcare benefits from employers? Are you insane? If a person works and does not get healthcare benefits then they are free to pick up and go to a job that does. That's the way the free market works. Injecting the government into the equation just makes things more costly and puts smaller business owners in the gutter.

I work a 60k+ job where I get no benefits, and I am MORE than capable of affording separate health insurance. Granted, I also do a whole lot of investing, but if I wanted benefits, I wouldn't have taken the current job I have.


Sir i do understand what you or saying there or unemployed people , low income famaily's who need help with healthcare , the state should provided for them ..sad



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