Topic: Admiring From Afar: The Downside
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Fri 08/08/08 10:31 AM
Just wondering if anyone else has ever had this sort of experience.

First, I have to say that I have never put a great deal of emphasis on looks when considering someone as a relationship prospect. It's a consideration, but it's not in the top 5, and the fact of the matter is, there are very few people I find instantaneously attractive anyway.

I can go through 100 or 200 Mutual Match candidates, and I may run across 1 or 2 who strike me immediately as "she's absolutely gorgeous." Which is meaningless, anyway, since they always live in Uzbekistan or don't want to get involved with guys who have blue eyes or they don't like writers or something; or their profile reads like an ADHD-riddled second grader's "What I Did On My Summer Vacation" report, except with worse spelling and fewer words.

{"I don't know what to write here" is rarely a turn-on, even in the best of circumstances.}

But, once in awhile, I run into someone who strikes me as genuinely attractive, but not necessarily in an "attainable" sense. Most often, it's someone I see working in a store, etc., someone who I "admire from afar," as the old saying goes, but who I would probably never make any real effort to "pursue."

Several years ago, there was a girl who worked in a nearby mall who more or less served as a perfect example. Her name was Jessica; anyone who has read my short story, "The Coin," will immediately know who I am talking about here.

For some reason, I had this idea of what Jessica must be like as a real person, outside of the workplace; the idea wasn't based on anything, as far as I can tell, other than wishful thinking and sheer delusion, but it seemed reasonable to me, at the time, anyway. I had this image of her as someone who I would like to know, would like to get to know, even though I knew it was unlikely to ever happen.

Then, an acquaintance who knew a little about her, advised me to go check out her MySpace page. He said, "I think you need to see this if you really want to know who Jessica is."

So I did, and what I found was, to say the least, disturbing. Jessica, it turned out, was an abusive, vulgar, downright nasty person on her MySpace page. She was so different from the image I had formulated that it left me a little stunned. I asked myself "How could I have been so wrong?" before ultimately realizing that the thing I was so wrong about, was something I never knew anything about in the first place.

(After a couple years away, she is now back at the same job at the same mall again.)

Under those circumstances, I suppose it's not all that outrageous to expect a little wrongness.

More recently, I have been "admiring from afar" another person, this one working in a nearby grocery store. Once again, I had built up this picture of "who she is," based on nothing more than personal observation and a few bits and pieces from a friend of mine who knows her slightly, or who claims to (I have seen nothing to substantiate this).

I decided to strike up a conversation with her the other day, more as an experiment than anything. My ultimate reaction to this discussion -- to paraphrase Herb Morrison -- "Oh, the vapidity!" I would have gotten a better conversation from a bag of frozen peas.

So, I'm wondering what it is, exactly, that's behind my insane desire to see these people as intelligent, evolved, communicative, and good human beings, when every experience I have with them dictates precisely the opposite....?

"Admiring from afar" is almost fun, until you start to learn about them.

I suppose, in the end, the desire to find someone with some substance, some genuineness, someone to really click with, outweighs any kind of common sense....for me, anyway. And its starting to hit me that the valid candidates in real life are so few and far between -- perhaps non-existent -- that maybe it's just easier to construct artificial personalities for people I really know nothing about.

Sad but true....

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Fri 08/08/08 10:36 AM
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NomadicAngel's photo
Fri 08/08/08 10:46 AM
I would say its almost like judging the cover of a book and then reading it and thinking how could i have wasted my time reading this gibberish. It happens i guess. Its the people we should get to know that are the ones we leave behind....

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Fri 08/08/08 10:51 AM
Unfortunately, some of us dupes out here do that same thing right with people we think we know. And get burned before the awareness sets in. I, being one of those dupes, I have made up my mind to be celibate because of my inablility to judge character. This is aimed just at me, just so you know, but doesn't change a thing.

I have a crush on someone totally out of my league, and I know this coming into it, so I've chosen to "just be friends".

It isn't that easy for us females to get the point anymore than the males. I understand what you're saying completely and agree.

Sorry you had to have that happen, but it seems from what you wrote that you have an understanding and are learning a valuable lesson. Wish I had that intuition. Would have saved me a lot of heartache.

So kudo's to you for recognizing this and sharing.

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Fri 08/08/08 11:04 AM
awwww this was perfection what you wrote.

I think at least for me that it fits along the lines of what people perceive would be the best person for them. Let me explain a lil. When I started the Matchmaking Game....It was really to prove a point or observation that I had for a long time. People get in their head what they think is perfect for them. So they look and look for that perfect in their mind person. H E L L O.....It doesn't exist. Anyway I knew that a lot of people are wasting their time and missing out meeting some really awesome men and women. So I would match people that I knew otherwise would not give each other the time of day. So what happen. They became friends or started dating someone that they would of not so on their own. How cool is that.

I think that is what you do.....You have it in your mind what these gals should be like...and then when they are not......you just can't understand it....or you do and say "How could I of been so wrong." People are never what is the delusion on the outside.....It's whats on the inside that truly matters.

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Fri 08/08/08 11:10 AM
This is a clear case of assuming.............you seem to be looking at their outside attributes and equating it to a persons character and that is always a dissapoiting game to play.............i do believe that you have to have an attraction but you cant assume what you see from the outside is what you get in the inside..............

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Fri 08/08/08 11:23 AM

Just wondering if anyone else has ever had this sort of experience.

First, I have to say that I have never put a great deal of emphasis on looks when considering someone as a relationship prospect. It's a consideration, but it's not in the top 5, and the fact of the matter is, there are very few people I find instantaneously attractive anyway.

I can go through 100 or 200 Mutual Match candidates, and I may run across 1 or 2 who strike me immediately as "she's absolutely gorgeous." Which is meaningless, anyway, since they always live in Uzbekistan or don't want to get involved with guys who have blue eyes or they don't like writers or something; or their profile reads like an ADHD-riddled second grader's "What I Did On My Summer Vacation" report, except with worse spelling and fewer words.

{"I don't know what to write here" is rarely a turn-on, even in the best of circumstances.}

But, once in awhile, I run into someone who strikes me as genuinely attractive, but not necessarily in an "attainable" sense. Most often, it's someone I see working in a store, etc., someone who I "admire from afar," as the old saying goes, but who I would probably never make any real effort to "pursue."

Several years ago, there was a girl who worked in a nearby mall who more or less served as a perfect example. Her name was Jessica; anyone who has read my short story, "The Coin," will immediately know who I am talking about here.

For some reason, I had this idea of what Jessica must be like as a real person, outside of the workplace; the idea wasn't based on anything, as far as I can tell, other than wishful thinking and sheer delusion, but it seemed reasonable to me, at the time, anyway. I had this image of her as someone who I would like to know, would like to get to know, even though I knew it was unlikely to ever happen.

Then, an acquaintance who knew a little about her, advised me to go check out her MySpace page. He said, "I think you need to see this if you really want to know who Jessica is."

So I did, and what I found was, to say the least, disturbing. Jessica, it turned out, was an abusive, vulgar, downright nasty person on her MySpace page. She was so different from the image I had formulated that it left me a little stunned. I asked myself "How could I have been so wrong?" before ultimately realizing that the thing I was so wrong about, was something I never knew anything about in the first place.

(After a couple years away, she is now back at the same job at the same mall again.)

Under those circumstances, I suppose it's not all that outrageous to expect a little wrongness.

More recently, I have been "admiring from afar" another person, this one working in a nearby grocery store. Once again, I had built up this picture of "who she is," based on nothing more than personal observation and a few bits and pieces from a friend of mine who knows her slightly, or who claims to (I have seen nothing to substantiate this).

I decided to strike up a conversation with her the other day, more as an experiment than anything. My ultimate reaction to this discussion -- to paraphrase Herb Morrison -- "Oh, the vapidity!" I would have gotten a better conversation from a bag of frozen peas.

So, I'm wondering what it is, exactly, that's behind my insane desire to see these people as intelligent, evolved, communicative, and good human beings, when every experience I have with them dictates precisely the opposite....?

"Admiring from afar" is almost fun, until you start to learn about them.

I suppose, in the end, the desire to find someone with some substance, some genuineness, someone to really click with, outweighs any kind of common sense....for me, anyway. And its starting to hit me that the valid candidates in real life are so few and far between -- perhaps non-existent -- that maybe it's just easier to construct artificial personalities for people I really know nothing about.

Sad but true....



Fantasy barely ever stands the test of reality...sadly.

I would think if you want to fantasize, leave it in the fantasy realm and then they will forever be what you want to see???!!!

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Fri 08/08/08 11:29 AM
smitten Lexy....smitten

I got to tell you.... you believe in unicorns too. You are a hopeful, optimistic person who believes in the wonder of the world and that people are wonderful.

Gosh... it is why I adore you.

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Fri 08/08/08 06:06 PM

smitten Lexy....smitten

I got to tell you.... you believe in unicorns too. You are a hopeful, optimistic person who believes in the wonder of the world and that people are wonderful.

Gosh... it is why I adore you.


The "dreamer" syndrome -- and sometimes so difficult to keep it contained, bottled up, under wraps --

Lilith, I'm so amazed that you can see this. I do my best to ensure that nothing larger than a hydrogen atom ever slips out!

Ah, but then, you have always been the perceptive sort....!

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unsure's photo
Fri 08/08/08 10:44 PM
I was going to say, I have a similar situation. I have always had this terrible terrible crush on my brothers best friend since I was oh I would say about 10 years old. Now I am 44 years old, I always swore that when I grew up and got married that I would marry my brothers best friend Brian. Brian's mother loved me and thought we would be the perfect couple, as did my mother!! BUT Brian always considered me "his little sister." OMG talk about words that could just break my heart!!
But Brian is very happily married and has children now, and actually, every time my brother and his wife go there to visit...his wife makes the comment about "Hey if your sister still wants my husband, she can have him." Trust me, it was very well known how I felt about this guy :heart:
In all honesty, Brian is what I call my "fantasy man." I think I have put him up on a pedestal and IF I ever ended up with him, it would NEVER be as great as I thought it would be! I think that sometimes we build people up way to much and we disappoint ourselves!! So, for all of those "Brians" out there, its just not fair to them that we put them up on that pedestal!!brokenheart

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Sat 08/09/08 01:12 AM
In communication, there is a theory known as the "Halo Effect". :angel:
To boil it down, if I see someone as having an attractive (or "good") characteristic, then I automatically assign other attractive ("good") characteristics to them, regardless of whether I know them or have observed these characteristics. Keep in mind that the attractive characteristics are based on my perception of attractive.


So, in this situation, you look at these women, and based on what you do know about them, you attribute other characteristics based on that.

And there's the "Reverse Halo Effect"..but that's for another thread.devil