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Topic: why does the truth hurt, rather than
notmytimeline20x6's photo
Sun 08/03/08 03:34 PM
A lie is a treatment for a disease, it makes you feel better,
but your still dieing.
smokin

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Sun 08/03/08 03:34 PM




Telling the truth can be overrated. You have to think about telling the truth before you do it. servey the situation. Sometimes Lie, and take the chance of getting caught later. Lying can be a positive thing, depending what the situation is. It even makes you feel good sometimes to do it. just dont get caught. Have funbigsmile


How are lies positive?



i think german philosopher, Kant, used an example of positive lies when he illustrated the point of a situation where or if germans were hiding jews in their homes and they came to that house, would you lie to protect the jews or be honest and get them all shot in the head. there is a positive lie.flowerforyou


:smile:


And yes, that would be a positive lie.

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Sun 08/03/08 03:35 PM





There...finally you say something I agree withdrinker




i like when you agree with meflowerforyou

missy51970's photo
Sun 08/03/08 03:37 PM
The truth sucks for some people, Miss Know it Alls hate it so do the male equivalent of that..

scoundrel's photo
Sun 08/03/08 03:37 PM

make others feel good?


...the truth usually obvious, especially when an honest person points it out to me. My opinion of anything is not the truth; it is my view, or my belief. I've seen threads killed by a person stating an opinion as a truth, without respect to others.
What I mean is that the truth doesn't hurt, so much as the opinion or the manner of expression does the damage. Mods can be skilled at handling the truth considerately...better than I.
spock

Lily0923's photo
Sun 08/03/08 03:38 PM


"The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off" Gloria Steinum....

and Brian, telling a lie is never good... no matter the reason, you have to remember the lies you tell, you don't have to remember the truth.

You can tell the same lie a thousand times, it doesn't make it any more true than it was the first time.

Truth hurts once, lies hurt over and over.
I didnt say be a chronicsmokin liar. You have to pick your spots. Please no one on this earth can walk on water. We all lie. Big,Small,Black, or your everyday little white lie. :banana:


I still don't see a good reason to lie, people lie to make themselves look good, or to deceive others, or to promote and get themselves ahead in life, none of these are good reasons to hurt people, and lieing hurts others, and in the long run it hurts you even more. It's a little thing called Karma, if I lie then someone will eventually lie to me.... I respect my friends more if they are honest, and say "hey, you were being a b*tch" than if they say "oh you were fine" then talk trash behind my back about it... Rule of thumb, don't say anything about anyone, that you wouldn't say TO someone.... otherwise, keep your trap shut about it...

Etrain's photo
Sun 08/03/08 03:38 PM
If your mother, whos on her death bed and looks like death warmed over asks you how she looks...are you gonna tell her..."hey you look great mom" or are you gonna tell her she looks like death warmed over?

briancarr's photo
Sun 08/03/08 03:41 PM

If your mother, whos on her death bed and looks like death warmed over asks you how she looks...are you gonna tell her..."hey you look great mom" or are you gonna tell her she looks like death warmed over?
Im going to tell her she looks like the woman that i will always remember, as a beautiful, and caring Motherflowers flowers

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Sun 08/03/08 03:41 PM
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head. there is a positive lie.flowerforyou
Man thats deep.spock I was just talking about, you know, when you girl ask you if she looks fat in her pantswinking flowers


its much more complex than this but he did use this example.

briancarr's photo
Sun 08/03/08 03:42 PM



"The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off" Gloria Steinum....

and Brian, telling a lie is never good... no matter the reason, you have to remember the lies you tell, you don't have to remember the truth.

You can tell the same lie a thousand times, it doesn't make it any more true than it was the first time.

Truth hurts once, lies hurt over and over.
I didnt say be a chronicsmokin liar. You have to pick your spots. Please no one on this earth can walk on water. We all lie. Big,Small,Black, or your everyday little white lie. :banana:


I still don't see a good reason to lie, people lie to make themselves look good, or to deceive others, or to promote and get themselves ahead in life, none of these are good reasons to hurt people, and lieing hurts others, and in the long run it hurts you even more. It's a little thing called Karma, if I lie then someone will eventually lie to me.... I respect my friends more if they are honest, and say "hey, you were being a b*tch" than if they say "oh you were fine" then talk trash behind my back about it... Rule of thumb, don't say anything about anyone, that you wouldn't say TO someone.... otherwise, keep your trap shut about it...
Your so rightohwell Sorry, i lied againflowers

Lily0923's photo
Sun 08/03/08 03:43 PM

If your mother, whos on her death bed and looks like death warmed over asks you how she looks...are you gonna tell her..."hey you look great mom" or are you gonna tell her she looks like death warmed over?


I'm gonna tell her she's beautiful, because she is beautiful to me, no matter what her Physical state is.

briancarr's photo
Sun 08/03/08 03:45 PM


If your mother, whos on her death bed and looks like death warmed over asks you how she looks...are you gonna tell her..."hey you look great mom" or are you gonna tell her she looks like death warmed over?


I'm gonna tell her she's beautiful, because she is beautiful to me, no matter what her Physical state is.
Yea, in a Death kind of way. You can forget to add thatflowers

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Sun 08/03/08 03:47 PM

truth is interesting...what if you have a friend that asks you if there fat....and they are...should you say yes???huh


At least then I would know that you are truthful. I am fat and I know it. I prefer honesty over lies which include the sugar coated lies.

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Sun 08/03/08 03:48 PM

make others feel good?
:heart: flowerforyou :wink: To me,

It does make me feel GOOD,wink,lol.

So I guess it comes down to one's REAL TRUTH!

MINE will NEVER hurt me, as it is who I am and how I am,wink...

But ANY and ALL who mislead will HATE THEIR TRUTH, back on them..:wink: I know as I have given theirs back here many times,,,lol:heart:

briancarr's photo
Sun 08/03/08 03:49 PM


truth is interesting...what if you have a friend that asks you if there fat....and they are...should you say yes???huh


At least then I would know that you are truthful. I am fat and I know it. I prefer honesty over lies which include the sugar coated lies.
I would like to be called, big bonededrofl

Etrain's photo
Sun 08/03/08 03:49 PM
i think german philosopher, Kant, used an example of positive lies when he illustrated the point of a situation where or if germans were hiding jews in their homes and they came to that house, would you lie to protect the jews or be honest and get them all shot in the head. there is a positive lie

Is this an exceptable lie???huh huh huh

iamherefornow's photo
Sun 08/03/08 03:50 PM



truth is interesting...what if you have a friend that asks you if there fat....and they are...should you say yes???huh


At least then I would know that you are truthful. I am fat and I know it. I prefer honesty over lies which include the sugar coated lies.
I would like to be called, big bonededrofl


I am as well as fat.:smile:

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Sun 08/03/08 03:57 PM

i think german philosopher, Kant, used an example of positive lies when he illustrated the point of a situation where or if germans were hiding jews in their homes and they came to that house, would you lie to protect the jews or be honest and get them all shot in the head. there is a positive lie

Is this an exceptable lie???huh huh huh
For every action they is a reaction.
If ALL of us knew the reaction first, we ALL would be liers,
at some points and areas through life.
To say NO to THIS would be a lie to your self NOW.

If the jews hiding were kept safe by the lie then yes, it was a lie to save a life, if on the other hand, the German man who lied had two of his family members killed before he told the truth, then HE, would have never tried the lie to start with,wink.

Life is to me, way-to-short to live it telling only make-believe stories of one's life. Or self, as who they are or feel about life.drinker :heart: smokin

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