Topic: ABRA-THE GOD PARTICLE???
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Thu 07/31/08 09:23 PM
was watching science channel, is the LHC in switzerland up and running now? have they found the heigs particle the bozon? god particle?

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Thu 07/31/08 09:25 PM



I Have no Idea what This is?

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Thu 07/31/08 10:32 PM

was watching science channel, is the LHC in switzerland up and running now? have they found the heigs particle the bozon? god particle?


They wish. laugh It's only hypothetical. They will never find a particle. That's because there are nothing but waves and frequencies in a holographic universe.

bigsmile

JB

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Thu 07/31/08 10:36 PM


was watching science channel, is the LHC in Switzerland up and running now? have they found the heigs particle the boson? god particle?


They wish. laugh It's only hypothetical. They will never find a particle. That's because there are nothing but waves and frequencies in a holographic universe.

bigsmile

JB


ye but is it up and running? it did not say when thr documentary was filmed?

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Thu 07/31/08 10:38 PM
drinker Abra is the God-Particledrinker

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Thu 07/31/08 10:46 PM
Edited by Belushi on Thu 07/31/08 10:46 PM

drinker Abra is the God-Particledrinker


Careful, or you might get Spider disputing that, just because he wants to be the god-particle laugh laugh laugh laugh

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Thu 07/31/08 10:55 PM
I did not see the documentary. There a bunch of scientists who are competing to discover the existence or non-existence of the so-called "god particle."

The payoff for whoever discovers the Higgs boson would be nothing less than a Nobel Prize.

I wonder what they will give the guy who discovers that it does not exist and that we are living in a hologram. (There are some who think that "particles" are simply standing waves.)

I don't know if any of the machines are up and running. I know they are spending billions of dollars on them. What a waste of money.

Do a search for "god particle" and you will find lots of stuff about it.

JB



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Thu 07/31/08 11:01 PM



http://www.particledetectives.net/html/lhc_today.html

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Fri 08/01/08 07:06 AM
thnx all you Abra wanna bee's - hahahalaugh JB, according to the show and my expierience with "fermalab" in Chicago, there are 3 or 4 large accelerators, the one in Geneva is supposed to be 7 times larger than fermalab and able to accelerate particles to near light speed, fermalab is where the quarks etc were discovered, according to this show they have pics of the god particles trails, but but not the particle yet, but i did not know how old the show was, they showed the almost complete Geneva accelerator and were saying it was a couple of years away from completion so that's why i was asking thnx again guys.flowerforyou

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Fri 08/01/08 07:17 AM
God particle is kind of a misnomer. The author wanted to call it the "god****" particle, because they can't find it. It was a joke, but the media has taken up the term "god particle" and run with it. The importance of the Higgs Boson is that it would be source of weight for atomic particles.

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Fri 08/01/08 11:15 AM

God particle is kind of a misnomer. The author wanted to call it the "god****" particle, because they can't find it. It was a joke, but the media has taken up the term "god particle" and run with it. The importance of the Higgs Boson is that it would be source of weight for atomic particles.


It is true that the "God" particle was a nick name for the Higgs Boson.

It is like God in that it can't be located in space, but also because the theory was that it would be some sort of endless source of energy if it were ever to come under our control as it seemed to appear out of nowhere inside of a vacuum that had been completely emptied.

But it will never be located as mass. Again, we live in a holographic universe that consists only of waves and frequencies and energy fields. IMHO of course. bigsmile

JB

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Fri 08/01/08 11:17 AM
Therefore, the key to creating "mass" is frequency.

JB

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Fri 08/01/08 11:23 AM

Therefore, the key to creating "mass" is frequency.

JB


or as i've stated before - vibration, a "vibratory universe" - but i still want to know if the geneva accellerator is up and running or not??bigsmile

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Fri 08/01/08 11:36 AM


Therefore, the key to creating "mass" is frequency.

JB


or as i've stated before - vibration, a "vibratory universe" - but i still want to know if the geneva accellerator is up and running or not??bigsmile


frequency, vibration, same difference. I don't know about if it is up and running. Why do you need this information? bigsmile Did you do a search on them?

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Fri 08/01/08 11:40 AM
It was supposed to be running by May. Some scientists were afraid it would create a black hole and kill us all.

Here's how one of the physicists involved in a collider project phrased it:

John Nelson, professor of nuclear physics at Birmingham University who is leading the British scientific team at RHIC, said the chances of an accident were infinitesimally small - but Brookhaven had a duty to assess them. "The big question is whether the planet will disappear in the twinkling of an eye. It is astonishingly unlikely that there is any risk - but I could not prove it," he said.

* 6 months ago

Source(s):
http://www.co-intelligence.org/CIIPol_ho...

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Fri 08/01/08 11:43 AM

or as i've stated before - vibration, a "vibratory universe" - but i still want to know if the geneva accellerator is up and running or not??bigsmile


They're supposed to start running in September.

Give them a year of 'shakedown' before they start settling in with solid information. bigsmile

They keep pushing the start-up day forward anyway. bigsmile

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Fri 08/01/08 12:10 PM


or as i've stated before - vibration, a "vibratory universe" - but i still want to know if the geneva accellerator is up and running or not??bigsmile


They're supposed to start running in September.

Give them a year of 'shakedown' before they start settling in with solid information. bigsmile

They keep pushing the start-up day forward anyway. bigsmile



If they aren't sure that it is dangerous and if some scientists think it could open a black hole and destroy us all, then what are they doing messing with things they don't understand?

All for a stupid Nobel prize? Ridiculous.

JB

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Fri 08/01/08 12:12 PM

It was supposed to be running by May. Some scientists were afraid it would create a black hole and kill us all.

Here's how one of the physicists involved in a collider project phrased it:

John Nelson, professor of nuclear physics at Birmingham University who is leading the British scientific team at RHIC, said the chances of an accident were infinitesimally small - but Brookhaven had a duty to assess them. "The big question is whether the planet will disappear in the twinkling of an eye. It is astonishingly unlikely that there is any risk - but I could not prove it," he said.

* 6 months ago

Source(s):
http://www.co-intelligence.org/CIIPol_ho...


This was a post in response to the above statement that some scientists were worried about black holes:

""The particle accelerator at Brookhaven National Lab, on Long Island, NY, has been creating micro-black holes for years. Ever heard of it before? Probably not. These black holes are microscopic and evaporate almost instantly. They pose no threat to anyone on Earth because they contain pretty much NO mass. Squish anything down small enough and you'll get a black hole (including you!) but not a very powerful or long-lasting one.

No scientists are suggesting that the LHC will be dangerous in any way. I'd be curious to know where you heard that. I'm guessing it was from someone who didn't really know what they were talking about.""


Personally, I don't think there is any danger, but I am not very scientific minded.

JB

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Fri 08/01/08 06:11 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 08/01/08 06:12 PM
Here is a posted article from the NY times about this subject:

http://mingle2.com/topic/show/151666

Here is a link to the article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/21/science/21cernw.html?_r=1&em&ex=1214280000&en=bec6298d50f55156&ei=5087%0A&oref=slogin

The physicists, who labored anonymously for the last year and a half, are John Ellis, Michelangelo Mangano, Gian Giudice and Urs Wiedemann, of Cern, and Igor Tkachev, of the Institute for Nuclear Research in Moscow. In a press release, Cern’s director general Robert Aymar said, “With this report, the Laboratory has fulfilled every safety and environmental evaluation necessary to ensure safe operation of this exciting new research facility.”

Here is their report:

http://lsag.web.cern.ch/lsag/LSAG-Report.pdf.

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Fri 08/01/08 07:18 PM
ye JB, they went into the black hole scenario on the show, i'm aware of that and i dont see it as a danger at all. but if it happens anyway that will be great - blam-suck-zoom - into the next dimension - hahaha

i was only curious to see if it was up and running yet, there were no times on how old the show i was watching was, so i was just trying to see if abra or someone knew - now i know, thnx guys. i'll keep an eye out for sept. and any news, i get daily updates on science news on yahoo. flowerforyou