Double post.

Why abra because you say so...I think not.

History backs up what I say abra...so who chooses to ignore.

You don't have to believe in any of it abra.....God, the Bible, parents. But the reasons for you not believing is what makes me sad......Because you were like a lil 2 year old who didn't get their way....But as my mother has told me on occsions...the world does not revolve around you sweet man. And no matter what I know in my heart and soul that God does nothing without reason....Everything he does is on his terms not ours ever ever ever.

And learn the Bible....no one can truly know all that the Bible holds....you can study and study for 100 years and still learn more. So to assume that you know all the bible and especially enough to teach others....It think not.

All the answers are in the Bible...one just needs to see it, to grasp it....to understand and like you said abra to study and read it.....But for me this is every day.....every night...and still I learn more.....And of course I would or no one should claim to know it enough to give ever single answer to every single question. But this is where I ask the Lord to show me and he does......this is the big difference...It's like people can attend church but does that mean they have a relationship with Christ....nope..And just like your uncles this is why constant Bible studies are so important.

If there is a question that cannot be answered in the Bible abra I say bring it on and lets work this theory of yours.

There is to many inconsistent answers for me of your true understanding of the Bible. And like I said it's a book that one can study forever and still learn daily.....Also I believe firmly that if the Lord God is not in your heart, soul, and mind...that it will always never make sense.

Share what you have learned with a sincere kind heart...and I may by it....Put it out and let the people decide.....don't decide for them....

And again saying that you would like to share your discoveries with reasonable people...shows me where exactly your heart is.

1. A supposedly all-powerful God is at war with a lowly angel that he can't keep under control.

Answer: Again answered 100 times.....but you choose to not hear. Satan was his #1 right hand man....Satan decided he was better then God...big mistake......He didn't just kill him abra....because he was who he was...and God need him to learn lessons....killing him would of been easy....making him roam the earth for thousands of years....with nothing....And bringing him back in man greatest rebellion and then putting him back to the pits of hell forever and ever is teaching him.

2. A supposedly all-wise and all-loving God tells people to stone their unruly children to death instead of giving them the wisdom of how to raise them properly.

Answer: Again have answered many many times....But it was not said in the bible the age of the child....

10 Now the son of an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father went out among the Israelites, and a fight broke out in the camp between him and an Israelite. 11 The son of the Israelite woman blasphemed the Name with a curse; so they brought him to Moses. (His mother's name was Shelomith, the daughter of Dibri the Danite.) 12 They put him in custody until the will of the LORD should be made clear to them.

13 Then the LORD said to Moses: 14 "Take the blasphemer outside the camp. All those who heard him are to lay their hands on his head, and the entire assembly is to stone him. 15 Say to the Israelites: 'If anyone curses his God, he will be held responsible; 16 anyone who blasphemes the name of the LORD must be put to death. The entire assembly must stone him. Whether an alien or native-born, when he blasphemes the Name, he must be put to death.

17 " 'If anyone takes the life of a human being, he must be put to death. 18 Anyone who takes the life of someone's animal must make restitution—life for life. 19 If anyone injures his neighbor, whatever he has done must be done to him: 20 fracture for fracture, eye for eye, tooth for tooth. As he has injured the other, so he is to be injured. 21 Whoever kills an animal must make restitution, but whoever kills a man must be put to death. 22 You are to have the same law for the alien and the native-born. I am the LORD your God.' "

23 Then Moses spoke to the Israelites, and they took the blasphemer outside the camp and stoned him. The Israelites did as the LORD commanded Moses.

3. A God who supposedly loves the world so much that he's willing to give in only begotten son to save them actually drowns out all but a few people at one time.

Answer: The price people pay for not listening to God abra.....It so simple yet so many don't.....why is that? Then again because God so loved us he did give us HIS only SON so that so once again we would be given the chance to get it right.......and have we.......nope.....G

4. A supposedly all-wise Fatherly-figure God who can intervene at any moment allowed the world to get so far out of hand that he had to drown it out in the first place. That's not a consistent picture of what an all-wise Fatherly-figure would do.


Answer: And this coming from a man who so studied the Bible...I think not. God is a God of Love and patience.....But when he destroyed the world he had had it with man's rebellion....and was this God's fault....nope....it was mans...and there again they had to pay the price. Again a question I have answered at least 50 times...but again you don't care about the answer...because you think should be abra's way.....I think not.


5. The book blames mankind for being responsible for bringing sin and death into the world, but we now know that it has always been this way long before mankind ever came onto the scene.

Answer: Again abra you know not what you speak..Adam and Eve brought it on.....and paid the price...

6. Jesus Christ had a totally different persona and agenda from the God of Abraham yet he was supposed to be the same God.

Answer: What the heck are you talking abut. Jesus Christ was a direct decendent of Abraham whom was the chosen of God's true people. Through the blood is what binds them but God is God and Christ through being his son is Also God.


7. The very fact that an all-wise, all-loving God would require blood sacrifices to pay for man's disobedience of his rules is not in-line with what it means to be all-wise, and all-loving. There's nothing wise about telling men that if they slaughter an animal you'll forgive them for having disobeyed you. All you'd be doing then is saying that it's ok to disobey as long as they have lambs to slaughter. A genuinely WISE God would have had men do something much more productive to gain repentance of disobedience. Like maybe insist that he learn how to play a musical instrument and go around sinning spiritual hymns to 100 people for every thought of sin that he has. And sing to 1000 people for every sin he actually commits. Not THAT would have been a WISE God!

Answer: Another I have answered so much it's getting rather annoying. giggle...Sacrifices were done to take our sin and burn it with the sacrifice. It was through the blood and it was with Jesus.....And Jesus allowed there to be no more sacrafice of animals......get it.....And I am sorry abra it was what it was and you can't change it or make it fit what you think it should of been. Was it an awful thing to have to slaughter the unblemished first lamp or cow.....yes....but there had to be a way between God's forgiveness and mans sin.
8. An all-wise God doesn't solve all his problems using violent methods. That's not a display of wisdom. Any thug can do that.

9. An all-loving God doesn't allow entire civilizations to be lost from his grace for 400 years and then treat the finally offspring generation like as if they are at fault. An all wise intervening God who is a "Fatherly-figure" would have acted more responsible in his parenting duties.

Answer: Well yes he does....It's called generational curses...but see again obedience to God can break it...I was the breaker in my family. We had a generational curse of alcoholism.....But when I found the Lord I was able to release that generational curse....which is now off my family, there family, and all the generations to come. This is one of those experiences I talk about that I have been through. SEE LIKE YOU ABRA ALL THOSE PEOPLE WANTED THINGS THERE WAY....WELL MY FRIEND IT WILL NEVER EVER WORK THAT WAY.....IT'S GOD'S WAY OR THE HIGHWAY.


10. No deity who plays Hide & Seek can claim to be righteous by making people guess which religion might be the true religion and punish all the people who guess wrong for having guessed wrong. That's neither wise nor righteous.

Answer: Man made religion not God....Love God, his Son, and love the neighbor as yourself...pretty simple...Take religion out of it and make it a personal relationship..

There's nothing about these stories that indicates that they were written by an all-wise, all-loving God who is a fatherly figure. One the contrary these stories reek of man's stupidity and arrogance. All problems are solved via violence and threats. So typical of men. So untypical of what we should expect from an all-loving all-wise God.

Again says you abra......imo The Bible to me is the infallible, inspired, inherent Word of the Living God. I believe each and every word from Genesis to Revelation, cover to cover. It is the owners manual for human being-a must read. God would never let just a book of stories and myths as you call them be here fore 2000 years no sir re abra.

I see all reason for people to believe these stories true and all are back historically. And you have proven nothing except as many others in the past and in the present that you think it should be your way...Well dear man.....not going to happen.

I'm just sharing my own personal testimony and trying to help others see what I already know to be true.

ANSWER ANSWER

Again over and over on deaf ears......

14 This fulfills the prophecy of Isaiah that says,

‘When you hear what I say,
you will not understand.
When you see what I do,
you will not comprehend.
15 For the hearts of these people are hardened,
and their ears cannot hear,
and they have closed their eyes—
so their eyes cannot see,
and their ears cannot hear,
and their hearts cannot understand,
and they cannot turn to me
and let me heal them.’

16 “But blessed are your eyes, because they see; and your ears, because they hear. 17 I tell you the truth, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see, but they didn’t see it. And they longed to hear what you hear, but they didn’t hear it.

18 “Now listen to the explanation of the parable about the farmer planting seeds: 19 The seed that fell on the footpath represents those who hear the message about the Kingdom and don’t understand it. Then the evil one comes and snatches away the seed that was planted in their hearts. 20 The seed on the rocky soil represents those who hear the message and immediately receive it with joy. 21 But since they don’t have deep roots, they don’t last long. They fall away as soon as they have problems or are persecuted for believing God’s word. 22 The seed that fell among the thorns represents those who hear God’s word, but all too quickly the message is crowded out by the worries of this life and the lure of wealth, so no fruit is produced. 23 The seed that fell on good soil represents those who truly hear and understand God’s word and produce a harvest of thirty, sixty, or even a hundred times as much as had been planted!”

yep on purpose I think God is really looking for you to look at the answers instead of just putting up your beliefs....without a second glance of what is right in front of your nose.


Now read my answers abra....so that you see not a question was not answered....

Feralcatlady,

I want you to use your thinking mind for a minute about your above answer about how god was just "teaching" satan.

To teach someone something is usually for a purpose. What good are the things learned by Satan if he is to spend eternity forever and ever in the pits of hell?

For what purpose will god have of all the teaching he bestowed upon Satan?

Unless he uses Satan simply to torture non-believers for eternity. Or unless god simply derives pleasure out of torturing Satan for eternity.

What is your answer there? What good is teaching Satan a lesson if he is to spend eternity in the pits of hell?

JB

Feralcatlady please answer,

What does the age matter? Even if the people are unruly adults, is this a kind thing to do? Stone them?

I know that Christian puritanism was extremely cruel in ancient times, but do you think God approved of that cruelty? If it was okay back then, then why is it not okay today? Has God gotten kinder or was that God not the true God after all?

JB

He doesn't really spend eternity in the pits of hell. That's where another contradiction comes into play. In the 'end' the Virgin Mary chrushes the head of Satan.

I wonder what he does with all the lessons he learned then.

The whole story is extremely inconsistent becasue in the Book of Job Satan asks God for permission before he messes over Job. Preachers have also told me that Job is not to be considered to have been a single man, but rather the story is to be taken as a parable, and Job is taken generically to mean any average man (like Joe Blow, or John Doe).

But that would then imply that Satan asks God for permission to screw over everyone. So Satans seems to be one of God's most dependable servants since he always asks God for permission before he does anything. Why would God have the Virgin Mary crush the head of Satan at the end. Seems to me he should be given a reward for having served God so devoutly.

Clearly this mythology has tons of self-inconsistency problems.

Also, contrary to what people keep saying, it's not true that all people need to do is accept Jesus as their savior and they'll be saved. If you actually go by what the mythology says, here it is in Matthew's own words, (supposedly Jesus' own words),...

"Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."


So according to the mythology the vast majority of mankind are going to eternal damnation. This is totally contrary to what most Christians seem to believe.

Clearly they close their minds and ears when there is something they don't want to believe.

According to the mythology, the vast majority of people who think they are saved, are on a direct path to hell. Only very few will make it into the heaven of this mythological God.

I'm in total agreement with JB. Age is truly irrelavent. An all-wise all-loving God doesn't teach people to stone people to death.

Let's see?

Wasn't there something earlier about "Thou Shalt Not Kill"?

Once again. Mixed messages from a God that is supposed to be consistent.

There's no hope Debbie. It's a lost cause.

If it could have been saved I would have saved it. Trust me.

Isaac Newton also tried to save the biblical picture but finally conlcluded that it is a lost cause. I only wish that society would have accepted his conclusion in the matter so that I wouldn't have had to go through the same process. I wasn't aware that Isaac Newton gave up on the picture as being hopeless. If I had known that I probably woudln't have ever bought into it in the first place.

Seems that my parents and preachers taught me very selective things, and kept the truth from me.

Fortunately I was able to discover the truth on my own.

The fact is, neither Jesus or Abraham can be proven to have actually lived. Some believe that they are both totally fictional Characters to begin with.

The Christian Church is a farce founded on a fantasy. If anyone requires confirmation of how easy it is for the few to control the masses, they need look no further than the billions of people who have worshiped the fairy tales peddled these past 2,000 years by men in long frocks. And what goes for Christianity goes for the rest of them, Judaism, Islam, Hinduism and all the rest.

These religions were created by the same force to achieve the same effect and, therefore, the saviour-god myths throughout the ancient world have an identical game plan: 1 You are born with original sin and so you are an unworthy piece of **** from the day you arrive on the planet. 2 You can only be saved by believing in the ‘Saviour’ and that means doing what the priesthood tell you to do. 3 If you don’t do that, you will be condemned to the bowels of hell forever. What guilt and terror this has created over thousands of years.

“The New Testament, the Church and Christianity, were all the creation of the Calpurnius Piso (pronounced Peso) family, who were Roman aristocrats. The New Testament and all the characters in it - Jesus, all the Josephs, all the Marys, all the disciples, apostles, Paul, John the Baptist - all are fictional. The Pisos created the story and the characters; they tied the story to a specific time and place in history; and they connected it with some peripheral actual people, such as the Herods, Gamaliel, the Roman procurators, etc. But Jesus and everyone involved with him were created (that is fictiotional!) characters.”

Source: The True Authorship Of The New Testament by Abelard Reuchlin, first printed in the United States in 1979

JB

This is utterly absurd Debbie.

You can't "take the religion out of it".

You just said "Love God and his Son"

You want to cling to the idea that Jesus died to pay for your sins. But that's RELIGION!!!

That whole notion requires believing in the entire folklore.

You can't claim that the Bible is the WORD OF GOD, and claim that this isn't a RELIGION.

That's what it means to be a RELIGION!!!

You're insisting that a particular STORY of God is TRUE!!!

You're insisting that the BIBLE is TRUE.

Yet you claim that it's all about God and not religion.

You're just in denial about what RELIGION is.

Why would you say such a thing other than to try to discredit me?

I don't 'blame' God for anything. I'm not complaining about anything.

I'm just pointing out that a particular mythology can't possibly be true.

What does that have to do with me getting my way?

Could you be more specific on precisely why you would make a such a claim about someone you don't even know?

Christianity is all about saving personal butts. It's entirely a self-centered religion. It's all about getting YOUR WAY. It's all about getting your own butt into heaven.

I'm the least important thing in this universe Debbie. I don't care about me. Saving my own butt is not even important to me. I'm more interested in contributing to the sanity of humanity as a whole.

Yet, the religion that you support is ALL ABOUT me saving my own butt!

That's all it has to offer.

It's an extremely self-centered religion.

He was teaching satan that you should never think your better then God even if you are an arch angel.....and God's right hand. And this was for the purpose to show not only satan but anyone who thinks that there way is better.....

Ahhhh but see here JB this is the best part about what satan learned before Christ sends him to the pits of hell for all eternity.....satan is here now....and gathering all the people that he can to turn them against God.....because even now as we write...satan thinks he is better then God...as do people walking and talking on this planet.....so they choose to have it their way as does satan....but in the end who do you think wins? God does........

Sorry Deb.

There are no winners in such a story. The story is a loser's story all the way around. Any god who loses his own creation to rebellion is a loser himself.

It matters because every time abra brings this up.....he is making those that don't know think that it's baby's or lil 1-2 year olds....and as it was never said..again it's abra taking something and twisting it to fit his need..Now also understand the reason for the stoning....was for children and adults alike who rebelled directly against God.....(GOD WAS THERE) This was after as you say the parents tried all other means, and they still rebelled and were unruly....it was not just a one time thing...if you would of read the scripture I posted then it might of been more clear.

Is it a kind thing to do......of course not....did it serve it's purpose for the time.....yes it did.....Is this the difference between why people feared God then....yes.....do we have to now.....yes and no......yes only for the rebellious......no because live as Jesus wants and always Love the Lord your God with all your heart, sould and mind, and love your neighbor as yourself...then no fear when the Book of Life is open and you have to answer to God. Which of course is not by works but through Grace.

God is God and in the day you didn't follow God and you paid the price......period. I think it's funny how everyone wants to blame God for mans doing......Man broke the law....Man broke God's heart....Now today you still have the people who rebel against God, Jesus etc. But now when Christ comes back and you have to stand in front of God himself and when he opens the Book of Life you will be held accountable for all your actions on earth.

So you are saying that this unfortunate story of Lucifer is told "as a lesson to all" that they dare not rise up against the Almighty God and think that they are better, or even equal.

You are saying that God was making an example of Lucifer. Is this correct?

How has that story made an impact on your life? Has it served its purpose and kept you feeling subservient to and fearful of God? If so, then that, I say, is the very reason for the story to be told in that manner.

When I try to get people to realize the god within them and that they are connected to prime source and are in fact, part of the body of God Itself, I always hear this same old tired and fearful worn out story, which amounts to a threat, and warns that no human should dare to think them self a God.

This is religion and the Church talking, or else false alien gods. This is the way religion keeps stealing the power away from individuals and keeps them feeling subservient and powerless to effect their own lives and their own choices. It is a sad story indeed, my friend.



Not every Christian doctrine would agree with you on that, but it makes for a good excuse as to why so many people are turning away from the power stealing doctrines of religion and the Church.

Yes we want to have it our way. That is the God in us! That is the desire of God living within us. It is not God's desire or our desire to be subservient to the dogma of man and his religions; because religion is dogma created by Man, not God. God lives in us, not in a book and not in the Church. We are free and yes we will have it our way and our way is God's way. I speak for myself and for those who are free from religions grasp and control. God is free and so are we.

JB

Amen to that!

To recognize that you're the creator of your own life has absolutely nothing to do with arrogance or thinking that your better than someone else, or better than a God.

Only sick egotists would think like that.

It's not about arrogance at all. It's about taking responsiblity for what you truly are!!!

It's about accepting your true nature.

It's not about wanting to rule the world.

That's the problem with thinking of God as being a "ruler".

The idea is to grow to the point where you are responsible enough that you don't need to be baby-sat anymore.

A heaven that is constantly ruled by a single Godhead would be nothing more than an eternal daycare center.

Praise God for Jeanniebean our priestess of truth and honesty!

; because religion is dogma created by Man, not God

Somebody PLEASE read these words and understand.

We're not rebelling against God.

We're rebelling against the oppression of the superstitions men who would have us believe lies!

; because religion is dogma created by Man, not God

; because religion is dogma created by Man, not God

; because religion is dogma created by Man, not God

; because religion is dogma created by Man, not God

; because religion is dogma created by Man, not God

; because religion is dogma created by Man, not God

; because religion is dogma created by Man, not God

; because religion is dogma created by Man, not God

; because religion is dogma created by Man, not God

; because religion is dogma created by Man, not God

; because religion is dogma created by Man, not God

; because religion is dogma created by Man, not God

; because religion is dogma created by Man, not God

; because religion is dogma created by Man, not God

; because religion is dogma created by Man, not God

; because religion is dogma created by Man, not God

; because religion is dogma created by Man, not God

; because religion is dogma created by Man, not God

You people are worshiping MAN, not God!

You're falling for the bigotry and lies of MEN.

Oh really abra.......so tell me then.....what does this scripture mean to you......

Revelation 20
The Thousand Years

1And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key to the Abyss and holding in his hand a great chain. 2He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. 3He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short time.

4I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5(The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.
Satan's Doom

7When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison 8and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore. 9They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God's people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them. 10And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
The Dead Are Judged

11Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. 12And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. 13The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done. 14Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. 15If anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.


NOW YOU CAN TAKE THE LAKE OF FIRE AS HELL....OR WHATEVER YOU LIKE.......I CALL IT HELL.....YOU CALL IT WHATEVER YOU WANT.


Well abra I haven't seen you prove one of yours....yet I have proved all over the place mine.

AGAIN GOING TO QUOTE SCRIPTURE PLEASE PUT THE VERSE AND ALL.....BECAUSE I FRANKLY DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH ALL OF MATTHEW TO GET WHAT YOUR TRYING TO SAY.......And contrary to what you may believe I don't have the bible memorized. Eexample Mathew 4:23-30...then I can go right to it....and put what I want......It's just proper when debating...ok thanks for the extra work....gigglesnort


Matthew 7 (see how easy)

The Narrow and Wide Gates
13"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
A Tree and Its Fruit

15"Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' 23Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'

Again abra you take scripture and manipulate it to fit your needs.....the gate means that people like you have a wide gate because you want to believe what you want to.....which leads to destruction....but the narrow gate which is a much harder journey is the way to the kingdom....now I went a little further with this.

Just because someone thinks they are a good person does not the kingdom of heaven the get......But the ones that do the will of the Father do...Does that mean these people are perfect.....nope....does that mean these people don't falter.....nope....but blatantly ignore the Father and call him a myth....and pay the price....and this is not me saying this but God....

And what is it oh great abra that most Christians believe?

I think the above scripture is mighty clear.
Read it....grasp it......understand as to see who eyes and ears are truly closed.

Why can't you take religion out of it.....religions are made made.......correct?

Loving God and his son.......is not a religion......did you not see my post on Christianity for me......it explains it perfect...

No Jesus was a man who died for my sins....following the path that was set by his Father......what is religion about that.....It's a personal relationship abra not a religion......

Again abra....please get this.......if it is folklore to you ok.......But please it is not to me.....so it is not written in stone what you think.....just because "you think it"


YES I CAN.......GET THIS ALSO ABRA.....GOD IS GOD....PERIOD.....CHRIST IS GOD'S SON.....PERIOD.....THIS IS MY PERSONAL BELIEF......THE BIBLE WAS WRITTEN BY MAN YES.....BUT INSPIRED BY GOD....GOD SPOKE AND THEY WROTE. I AM A CHRISTIAN (RELIGION) FOR THE FELLOWSHIP OF OTHERS WHO BELIEVE CHRIST DIED FOR OUR SINS......LIKE I SAID BEFORE.....MY BRETREN IS THERE FOR ME, WHEN SOMEONE IS SICK, THEY ARE THERE, WHEN SOMEONE NEEDS PRAYER, THEY ARE THERE, WHEN SOMEONE HAS A BABY, THEY ARE THERE, WHEN SOMEONE MOVES, THEY ARE THERE.....WHEN SOMEONE DIES, THEY ARE THERE. THAT IS THE RELIGION ASPECT FOR ME.

God and Christ are the personal part.....a personal relationship that I and only I have..

DENIAL FOR YOU.....AND FOR ME MY TRUTH......DO I SAY WHAT YOU SHOULD AND SHOULD NOT BELIEVE AS A PANTHIEST....NOPE.....AND YOU M FRIEND HAVE NO RIGHTS TO TELL ME WHAT MY BELIEFS SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT BE.

Sorry to interrupt you ladies unending war...(I am sure you will get back to it)

I was a child who needed to be taught....Now, I am an adult and fully capable of thinking for myself.

I do not need a God or a Saviour to let me know when I screw up...I know that from my personal experience.

I was taught right from wrong....don't need a dead man or the writings about a dead man to morally spank me for my Ideas and beliefs.

Unless Jesus himself is standing in front of me to gripe at me for my life....not sure why anyone else's opinions would actually matter.

.....not gonna hold my breath over the Jesus whining thing....he seems to be cool with the first 40 years of my heathen life.

Gotta laugh hard enough to spit a little whenever people tell me what Jesus thought...wish I had that talent!

Heck! I can't even tell you what my dogs are thinking short of..."I want more Creole shrimp"

Must make it easy to be able to know what God's son is thinking.....so....what are tonight's lotto #'s......If you are gonna impress me...here is your shot.