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The Hedgehog has spikes.
Whoever gets close to it will get hurt. The Hedgehog is, as a natural disposition, lonely, and seeks the closeness of others. Whenever the Hedgehog gets close to say, another Hedgehog, they both get hurt. Does the Hedgehog stay alone, isolated from the closeness of others, to avoid being hurt, and to hurt others? Or does she take her lot in with all the others of her kind, and make the decision to get close to someone, thus fulfilling her own natural disposition for company and closeness, with the inevitability of hurting another, and getting hurt? To hurt another by being close to the Hedgehog isn’t necessarily an intentional thing, but it is necessarily going to happen as the sufficient and necessary condition of being close to someone with spikes around their whole body. The hedgehog is going to be hurt, one way or another. We may not hurt others if we don’t get close to them, but we can hurt them in other ways too… Is it worth the pain of being hurt to be close to another? Is it worth the possibility of hurting another to find closeness and to fulfill the need of the other Hedgehog? How important is it to obey our natural disposition, over a forced isolation to protect others from possibly being hurt? _________________________________________________ Something I read I liked. (If you're into anime, you might know where it comes from) In short.... Is love worth it... considering all the pain that comes with it? |
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Uh, are you supposed to be the hedgehog?
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your hedgehog sounds so much like my child, who is bipolar. She is lonely and seeks relationships but then always seeks to destroy them. Loving her means having a high pain tolerance and most people won't bother. Why should they, when they can love someone who will be nice to them? I fear that she will always be alone.
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Am I the hedgehog? No, well, maybe... but no. Everyone is, that's the whole point. Unless you believe love as being all roses and butterflies... (bad analogy, couldn't think of anything better. =P) But yeah, everyone gets hurt one way or another... but like sparkleplenty424 mentioned, it all depends on what your pain tolerance is.
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People say LOVE hurts but I think wanting so badly to be in love is what really hurts...
When one person is not as in love as the other person is or one falls "out of love". These are the things that lead to bon bon's and country songs. Don't get me wrong, I believe in love but I do not believe most people are IN LOVE.... it's a game of not wanting to be alone and settling for whatever comes their way. This is what causes failed relationships and broken hearts. People who are truly in love with each other are HAPPY... Just sayin. |
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People say LOVE hurts but I think wanting so badly to be in love is what really hurts... <snip> Don't get me wrong, I believe in love but I do not believe most people are IN LOVE.... it's a game of not wanting to be alone and settling for whatever comes their way. Yeesh. Unfortunately, I have been in both situations. I have been truly in love, and happy, and I have settled for less than I really wanted, and was pretty miserable. The problem is trying to find the middle ground where you can be happy with someone who isn't EXACTLY what you were looking for. : shrugs : |
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Love is best served with caution........
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your hedgehog sounds so much like my child, who is bipolar. She is lonely and seeks relationships but then always seeks to destroy them. Loving her means having a high pain tolerance and most people won't bother. Why should they, when they can love someone who will be nice to them? I fear that she will always be alone. I hear what you are saying and I feel for you and your daughter.My experience with a person with bypolar is limited to a friend from the past.There were days when I wasn't sure what he would do next mood swings not taking his medications eventually we drifted apart today I regret that I didn't take the time to learn about bypolar.Hopefully your daughter will find people that can be patient and good friends. Warm wishes to you mom. |
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you ARE talking about Ron Jeremy right?
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your hedgehog sounds so much like my child, who is bipolar. She is lonely and seeks relationships but then always seeks to destroy them. Loving her means having a high pain tolerance and most people won't bother. Why should they, when they can love someone who will be nice to them? I fear that she will always be alone. Unfortunately, my past experience with someone who is Bi Polar was when I was in an actual relationship. Unfortunately, she denied anything was wrong with her until after we split up. Also unfortunately, my experience with her was bad enough to make me not ever want to deal with something like that again. I have always been very adaptable. I can deal with just about anything and it doesn't really stress me out or bother me. I just don't think I would be willing to put myself through something like that again. I won't say that I feel sorry for your daughter because that would be a pretty trite comment. But I will honestly say that I do feel for her. I have a good idea what she is going through with that particular disorder. For her to find someone, that person is going to have to have more patience than the vast majority of men have. I guess it will come down to just how severe her mood swings are. Sometimes, when staying on medication, they aren't that bad. Unmedicated, the mood swings can be very severe. I wouldn't wish my experience with unmedicated Bi Polar on anyone. |
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Edited by
carolanne58
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Wed 07/23/08 09:06 PM
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your hedgehog sounds so much like my child, who is bipolar. She is lonely and seeks relationships but then always seeks to destroy them. Loving her means having a high pain tolerance and most people won't bother. Why should they, when they can love someone who will be nice to them? I fear that she will always be alone. Unfortunately, my past experience with someone who is Bi Polar was when I was in an actual relationship. Unfortunately, she denied anything was wrong with her until after we split up. Also unfortunately, my experience with her was bad enough to make me not ever want to deal with something like that again. sorry my last comment got plopped in the middle of someone elses sorry! Like I said my experieNce is limited,But my friend told me that there are days that you feel really good and you can convience yourself you don't need the meds . I have always been very adaptable. I can deal with just about anything and it doesn't really stress me out or bother me. I just don't think I would be willing to put myself through something like that again. I won't say that I feel sorry for your daughter because that would be a pretty trite comment. But I will honestly say that I do feel for her. I have a good idea what she is going through with that particular disorder. For her to find someone, that person is going to have to have more patience than the vast majority of men have. I guess it will come down to just how severe her mood swings are. Sometimes, when staying on medication, they aren't that bad. Unmedicated, the mood swings can be very severe. I wouldn't wish my experience with unmedicated Bi Polar on anyone. |
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your hedgehog sounds so much like my child, who is bipolar. She is lonely and seeks relationships but then always seeks to destroy them. Loving her means having a high pain tolerance and most people won't bother. Why should they, when they can love someone who will be nice to them? I fear that she will always be alone. I hear what you are saying and I feel for you and your daughter.My experience with a person with bypolar is limited to a friend from the past.There were days when I wasn't sure what he would do next mood swings not taking his medications eventually we drifted apart today I regret that I didn't take the time to learn about bypolar.Hopefully your daughter will find people that can be patient and good friends. Warm wishes to you mom. |
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Sorry justaguy I really messed up your post oooooopppppps!
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Thank you sparkleplenty, When I was in my twenties I was pretty self centered I am ashamed to say.Now in my 50's and having had many loses and due to my volunteer work I look at life differently.I am sometimes sceptical of the internet because it is hard to relay feelings and you can't see expression but I really enjoy being on this site.
As for the hedgehog I believe in giving the person a chance but if you lie to me I have to move on.I have been know to jump in with both feet and that is when good friends will point out what I am to blind to see. lol |
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Sorry justaguy I really messed up your post oooooopppppps! No worries. I usually mess them up myself. You just took care of it for me this time. LOL |
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Thank you sparkleplenty, When I was in my twenties I was pretty self centered I am ashamed to say.Now in my 50's and having had many loses and due to my volunteer work I look at life differently.I am sometimes sceptical of the internet because it is hard to relay feelings and you can't see expression but I really enjoy being on this site. As for the hedgehog I believe in giving the person a chance but if you lie to me I have to move on.I have been know to jump in with both feet and that is when good friends will point out what I am to blind to see. lol |
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glad to be helpful justaguy lol
They say you have to walk in someone elses shoes to know were they are coming from I think the persons shoes I am wearing are three sizes to big lol there are many situations in life that I don't understand But In the end I only hope I get points for trying smiles. |
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