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Topic: Anyone else hear of the recent find of yellow cake in Iraq
Chazster's photo
Sat 07/12/08 07:33 PM
I think this is kind of significant, but I am finding it hard to find more than people talking about it. I know people that personally saw it on the news and said they barely mentioned it and thought they were kind of trying to sweep it under the rug.

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Sat 07/12/08 07:34 PM
I like chocolate cake. drinker

Chazster's photo
Sat 07/12/08 07:35 PM
Oh I found the article

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/US/07/07/iraq.uranium/index.html

Chazster's photo
Sat 07/12/08 07:35 PM

I like chocolate cake. drinker


mmmm tasty

Fanta46's photo
Sat 07/12/08 07:37 PM
This article from the AP was posted yesterday, reporting the sale and transport of 550 metric tons of yellowcake uranium from Iraq to Canada. Some of the leading right wing blogs were quick to hail the find as a significant victory for the Bush administration and proof of Saddam’s WMD program, but as Daniel De Groot at Open Left Points out, their celebrations may be a bit premature, if not dishonest:

I noted last night that a supply of uranium from Iraq had been successfully moved to Montreal in secrecy.

If you check into this, you’ll quickly find that the uranium a) was not weapons grade and b) was well known to the UN and IAEA and was being stored legally by Saddam’s government. It was legally in Iraq according to international law.

I wondered if the right wing echo chamber would use this as “proof” that the WMD claims were true after all. I got even better than I hoped, as not only do they use it that way, but they reveal how dishonest they are by the way they have done this.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/07/06/yellowcake-uranium-found-in-iraq-bush-was-right-well-not-so-much/

Yellowcake uranium found in Iraq, Saddam’s legacy, Bush was right!

Well…not so much.


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Sat 07/12/08 07:37 PM
I'll be surprised when they find living matter in Bush's brain.

Fanta46's photo
Sat 07/12/08 07:39 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Sat 07/12/08 07:40 PM
More lies.drinker

4 min to bust that lie!laugh laugh

Oh by the way yellow cake uranium is naturally found all over Iraq!

Chazster's photo
Sat 07/12/08 07:41 PM

This article from the AP was posted yesterday, reporting the sale and transport of 550 metric tons of yellowcake uranium from Iraq to Canada. Some of the leading right wing blogs were quick to hail the find as a significant victory for the Bush administration and proof of Saddam’s WMD program, but as Daniel De Groot at Open Left Points out, their celebrations may be a bit premature, if not dishonest:

I noted last night that a supply of uranium from Iraq had been successfully moved to Montreal in secrecy.

If you check into this, you’ll quickly find that the uranium a) was not weapons grade and b) was well known to the UN and IAEA and was being stored legally by Saddam’s government. It was legally in Iraq according to international law.

I wondered if the right wing echo chamber would use this as “proof” that the WMD claims were true after all. I got even better than I hoped, as not only do they use it that way, but they reveal how dishonest they are by the way they have done this.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/07/06/yellowcake-uranium-found-in-iraq-bush-was-right-well-not-so-much/

Yellowcake uranium found in Iraq, Saddam’s legacy, Bush was right!

Well…not so much.




Yes it was not weapons grade, but could be if it went through a series of enrichment processes.

Yellow cake is typically used for power plants, but Iraq had nuclear power plants.

The UN knew about it and it was there Illegally.

It may not prove bush was right, but I think it does punch a hole in the Bush was wrong.

Tazz42's photo
Sat 07/12/08 07:41 PM

I'll be surprised when they find living matter in Bush's brain.


Here...here!!!!!!drinker drinker

Chazster's photo
Sat 07/12/08 07:41 PM
Edited by Chazster on Sat 07/12/08 07:42 PM

More lies.drinker

4 min to bust that lie!laugh laugh

Oh by the way yellow cake uranium is naturally found all over Iraq!


Where is there a lie anywhere?
Where is your source that its found all over Iraq? 500tons is a lot, you don't find that lying around.

Fanta46's photo
Sat 07/12/08 07:45 PM


More lies.drinker

4 min to bust that lie!laugh laugh

Oh by the way yellow cake uranium is naturally found all over Iraq!


Where is there a lie anywhere?
Where is your source that its found all over Iraq? 500tons is a lot, you don't find that lying around.



On the Reb blog sites and the AP report generated by the Bush Administration!

LIES!!!

Fanta46's photo
Sat 07/12/08 07:46 PM
This article from the AP was posted yesterday, reporting the sale and transport of 550 metric tons of yellowcake uranium from Iraq to Canada. Some of the leading right wing blogs were quick to hail the find as a significant victory for the Bush administration and proof of Saddam’s WMD program..

LIES!!!!!

Fanta46's photo
Sat 07/12/08 07:50 PM
The IAEA knew that material was in Iraq since 1992, and had been monitoring it ever since.
Why all of a sudden, 16 yrs later is there a report to the AP?

Ask your self that when you go vote Republican in Nov!!

Chazster's photo
Sat 07/12/08 07:51 PM

This article from the AP was posted yesterday, reporting the sale and transport of 550 metric tons of yellowcake uranium from Iraq to Canada. Some of the leading right wing blogs were quick to hail the find as a significant victory for the Bush administration and proof of Saddam’s WMD program..

LIES!!!!!


You can't call that a lie since you can't be sure what its for. I am not claiming it is truth either. The point is that we don't know what its for but it would be nice to investigate this. The media seems to almost want to ignore it all together. You may say the rebus are quick to hail it as a victory, but you as a dem are just as quick to claim it a lie.

Like I said we really can't be sure what it was gonna be used for since they would have no need for it at all. It can, however, be a vary dangerous substance and the iraq government agreed which is one reason they decided to get rid of it.

Chazster's photo
Sat 07/12/08 07:54 PM

The IAEA knew that material was in Iraq since 1992, and had been monitoring it ever since.
Why all of a sudden, 16 yrs later is there a report to the AP?

Ask your self that when you go vote Republican in Nov!!


Whats that have to do with voting republican, and who says that I am not voting independent? If I am not mistaken, we had a democrat from 1992-2002.

Fanta46's photo
Sat 07/12/08 07:55 PM


This article from the AP was posted yesterday, reporting the sale and transport of 550 metric tons of yellowcake uranium from Iraq to Canada. Some of the leading right wing blogs were quick to hail the find as a significant victory for the Bush administration and proof of Saddam’s WMD program..

LIES!!!!!


You can't call that a lie since you can't be sure what its for. I am not claiming it is truth either. The point is that we don't know what its for but it would be nice to investigate this. The media seems to almost want to ignore it all together. You may say the rebus are quick to hail it as a victory, but you as a dem are just as quick to claim it a lie.

Like I said we really can't be sure what it was gonna be used for since they would have no need for it at all. It can, however, be a vary dangerous substance and the iraq government agreed which is one reason they decided to get rid of it.


Crooks and Liars have already done the leg work.
Its a lie!! The material was in the IAEA inventories since 1992. Believe it Chaz. Its well documented!

Fanta46's photo
Sat 07/12/08 07:59 PM
The story begins at the end of the first Gulf War when inspectors found a 500 ton cache of refined yellow cake uranium at Iraq's primary nuclear research facility in Al—Tuwaitha outside of Bagdhad. The cache was part of a huge inventory of nuclear materials discovered by UN inspectors that included low—level radioactive material of the type used for industrial and medical purposes as well as a quantity of highly enriched uranium suitable for bomb production.

This HE uranium was shipped to Russia where it was made relatively harmless by a process known as 'isotopic dilution' — but only after the Iraqis dragged their heels for more than 6 months following the cease fire by playing a cat and mouse game with the IAEA's inspectors. The history of those early IAEA inspections can be found here and is an eye opening look at both the gullibility of the IAEA and the lengths to which Saddam sought to keep as much of his nuclear bomb making capability as he could.

The IAEA placed a seal on the nuclear materials in November of 1992. From then until the fall of Saddam, the agency attempted to make sure that Iraq did not use the yellow cake to reconstitute its nuclear program, something the IAEA acknowledged could be done if the Iraqis were able to rebuild its centrifuges and gain access to additional fissile material. Keeping track of the material was made extraordinarily difficult by the Iraqis who regularly impeded IAEA officials from carrying out even the most routine inspections.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2005/07/about_that_500_tons_of_yellow.html

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Sat 07/12/08 08:31 PM
Correct, yellow cake is an "average" concentration of uranium ore, specifically refined to increase the concentration of U238. In the "yellowcake" produced in Utah in the 1950's, U238 was in a concentration of %1 - 3. Further refinement using centrifuges extracts the U238 which was used in early nuclear reactors, the breakdown of which produced some small amount of plutonium, used in current nuclear weapons. 84# of U238 was what was used in the Hiroshima bomb in WW2. If, and I specify if, the yellowcake was of "average" concentration, It could have yeilded 5 to 15 tons of reactor grade uranium, or, with additional concentration, as the Iranians are doing with centrifuges, in the vicinity of 300 - 500# of weapons grade uranium. His technology at the time did not allow successful refining to weapons grade uranium. The Israeli bombing of his breeder reactor had put a "crimp" in his plans.The function of a breeder reactor is to hasten the transition of uranium to plutonium on a larger scale. A significant technological endeavor to get from yellowcake to weapons grade.

Fanta46's photo
Sat 07/12/08 08:55 PM

I'll be surprised when they find living matter in Bush's brain.



LMAO!!drinker

damnitscloudy's photo
Sat 07/12/08 09:08 PM
WTF kind of scientist names something, as scary as enriched uranium, after my favorite kind of cake!? It boggles my mind. Is there a chocolate cake version of uranium? Or maybe a corn bread muffin uranium?rant

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