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I would like to say that because I appose Zionism, a few people wrongly have slandered me calling me a bigot and an anti-Semite.
I also have seen many evangelic Christians who support the Zionist movement and indeed even heard Condi Rice on television last night declare continued support for Israel and the Zionist movement. This is a grave mistake in my opinion. True religious Jews appose Zionism and so does their holy book. Please educate yourself and stop calling people Jew haters because they don't support the political agenda of Zionism. People need to wake up and stop being intimidated by the JDL and other thugs who pretend to be defending Jews when they are defending a ruthless political agenda. Traditional Jews Are Not Zionists "Although there are those who refuse to accept the teachings of our Rabbis and will continue to support the Zionist state, there are also many who are totally unaware of the history of Zionism and its contradiction to the beliefs of Torah-True Jews." http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/zionism/zanda.cfm Zionism and Anti-Semitism We implore and beseech our Jewish brethren to realize that the Zionists are not the saviors of the Jewish People and guarantors of their safety, but rather the instigators and original cause of Jewish suffering in the Holy Land and worldwide. The idea that Zionism and the State of “Israel” is the protector of Jews is probably the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the Jewish People. Indeed, where else since 1945 have Jews been in such physical danger as in the Zionist state?! Jews are enjoined by their religious laws to be loyal to the country of which they are citizens. Ever since the destruction of the holy Temple in Jerusalem and the exile of the Jewish People some two thousand years ago, we have been enjoined to be scrupulously loyal to the countries we reside in. One of the great biblical prophets, Jeremiah, in chapter 29 of his book proclaimed G-d's message to all the exiled; verse seven reads, "Seek out the welfare of the city to which I have exiled you and pray for it to the Almighty, for through its welfare will you have welfare." This has been a cornerstone of Jewish morality throughout our history to this very day. Torah-true Jews wish to live in peace and harmony with their neighbors in every country among the community of nations, including in historic Palestine. They deplore acts and policies of violence carried out by those who, misusing the name of Israel our forefather, have substituted the ideal of chauvinist nationalism for the eternal values of the Torah, the eternal divinely bestowed inheritance of the Jewish people. It has been the age-old intention of Zionism to intentionally stir up anti-Semitism anywhere possible, and even more commonly, to take advantage of any Jewish suffering anywhere in order to enhance its cause Indeed, hatred of Jews and Jewish suffering is the oxygen of the Zionist movement, and from the very beginning has been to deliberately incite hatred of the Jew and then, in feigned horror, use it to justify the existence of the Zionist state – this is, of course, Machiavellianism raised to the highest degree. Thus, the Zionists thrive on hatred and suffering of Jews, and seek to benefit thereby through keeping Jews in perpetual fear, causing them to ignore the true nature of Zionism, and instead to consider the Zionist state is their salvation. |
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I would like to say that because I appose Zionism, a few people wrongly have slandered me calling me a bigot and an anti-Semite. I also have seen many evangelic Christians who support the Zionist movement and indeed even heard Condi Rice on television last night declare continued support for Israel and the Zionist movement. This is a grave mistake in my opinion. True religious Jews appose Zionism and so does their holy book. Please educate yourself and stop calling people Jew haters because they don't support the political agenda of Zionism. People need to wake up and stop being intimidated by the JDL and other thugs who pretend to be defending Jews when they are defending a ruthless political agenda. Traditional Jews Are Not Zionists "Although there are those who refuse to accept the teachings of our Rabbis and will continue to support the Zionist state, there are also many who are totally unaware of the history of Zionism and its contradiction to the beliefs of Torah-True Jews." http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/zionism/zanda.cfm Zionism and Anti-Semitism We implore and beseech our Jewish brethren to realize that the Zionists are not the saviors of the Jewish People and guarantors of their safety, but rather the instigators and original cause of Jewish suffering in the Holy Land and worldwide. The idea that Zionism and the State of “Israel” is the protector of Jews is probably the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the Jewish People. Indeed, where else since 1945 have Jews been in such physical danger as in the Zionist state?! Jews are enjoined by their religious laws to be loyal to the country of which they are citizens. Ever since the destruction of the holy Temple in Jerusalem and the exile of the Jewish People some two thousand years ago, we have been enjoined to be scrupulously loyal to the countries we reside in. One of the great biblical prophets, Jeremiah, in chapter 29 of his book proclaimed G-d's message to all the exiled; verse seven reads, "Seek out the welfare of the city to which I have exiled you and pray for it to the Almighty, for through its welfare will you have welfare." This has been a cornerstone of Jewish morality throughout our history to this very day. Torah-true Jews wish to live in peace and harmony with their neighbors in every country among the community of nations, including in historic Palestine. They deplore acts and policies of violence carried out by those who, misusing the name of Israel our forefather, have substituted the ideal of chauvinist nationalism for the eternal values of the Torah, the eternal divinely bestowed inheritance of the Jewish people. It has been the age-old intention of Zionism to intentionally stir up anti-Semitism anywhere possible, and even more commonly, to take advantage of any Jewish suffering anywhere in order to enhance its cause Indeed, hatred of Jews and Jewish suffering is the oxygen of the Zionist movement, and from the very beginning has been to deliberately incite hatred of the Jew and then, in feigned horror, use it to justify the existence of the Zionist state – this is, of course, Machiavellianism raised to the highest degree. Thus, the Zionists thrive on hatred and suffering of Jews, and seek to benefit thereby through keeping Jews in perpetual fear, causing them to ignore the true nature of Zionism, and instead to consider the Zionist state is their salvation. so let it be written, so let it be done - there is no fallacy in there words or your's, god did not give the land back to the jews they acted politically to gain there accsess back into the land. read em and weep, new temple buider wanna be's - if a temple is ever built by those there it wont be gods doing it will be zionist agenda's doing, and all the futurist are wrong on this point!! |
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Absolutely correct. Any temple being built by war mongering Zionists is an agenda to further their political manipulation of people who believe in any religion that reads the Bible or evolves from Biblical legends and personalities.
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Absolutely correct. Any temple being built by war mongering Zionists is an agenda to further their political manipulation of people who believe in any religion that reads the Bible or evolves from Biblical legends and personalities. JB YEP !! |
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A MESSAGE FROM TRUE TORAH JEWS:
THE STATE OF ISRAEL HAS DECLARED ALL-OUT WAR ON THE JEWISH PEOPLE WORLDWIDE Ariel Sharon, the Prime Minister of Israel told the crowd at a Rome hotel. "We are witness to a great wave of anti-Semitism, and apart from the usual anti-Semitism against Jews, there is today the added hate of the collective Jew, which is Israel.”… “The best solution to anti-Semitism is immigration to Israel. It is the only place on Earth where Jews can live as Jews," he said. (BBC website of Monday, 17 November, 2003 (http:/ /news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3275979.stm) Mr. Sharon has moved from the planning stages as stated in November, 2003, to the execution of the plan which has been in development since the days of Herzl, the founder of the Zionist movement, who stated in his diary “It is essential that the sufferings of Jews. . . become worse. . . this will assist in realization of our plans. . .I have an excellent idea. . . I shall induce anti-Semites to liquidate Jewish wealth. . . The anti-Semites will assist us thereby in that they will strengthen the persecution and oppression of Jews. The anti-Semites shall be our best friends”. (From his Diary, Part I, pp. 16) In executing this plan they have successfully escalated anti-Semitism throughout the world. There is great pain that the press and politicians are calling the actions of the Zionist movement “Jewish actions.” With these words they are helping the Zionists to fulfill their dreams. We call upon the world again to understand that the state of “Israel” does not represent the Jewish faith and traditions and that Zionists are the greatest enemies to the Jewish people. We appeal to people of good will in the media itself to open their minds and hearts to what we are proclaiming about the truth of Judaism, which has been distorted by the Zionists. http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/index.cfm |
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A MESSAGE FROM TRUE TORAH JEWS: THE STATE OF ISRAEL HAS DECLARED ALL-OUT WAR ON THE JEWISH PEOPLE WORLDWIDE Ariel Sharon, the Prime Minister of Israel told the crowd at a Rome hotel. "We are witness to a great wave of anti-Semitism, and apart from the usual anti-Semitism against Jews, there is today the added hate of the collective Jew, which is Israel.”… “The best solution to anti-Semitism is immigration to Israel. It is the only place on Earth where Jews can live as Jews," he said. (BBC website of Monday, 17 November, 2003 (http:/ /news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3275979.stm) Mr. Sharon has moved from the planning stages as stated in November, 2003, to the execution of the plan which has been in development since the days of Herzl, the founder of the Zionist movement, who stated in his diary “It is essential that the sufferings of Jews. . . become worse. . . this will assist in realization of our plans. . .I have an excellent idea. . . I shall induce anti-Semites to liquidate Jewish wealth. . . The anti-Semites will assist us thereby in that they will strengthen the persecution and oppression of Jews. The anti-Semites shall be our best friends”. (From his Diary, Part I, pp. 16) In executing this plan they have successfully escalated anti-Semitism throughout the world. There is great pain that the press and politicians are calling the actions of the Zionist movement “Jewish actions.” With these words they are helping the Zionists to fulfill their dreams. We call upon the world again to understand that the state of “Israel” does not represent the Jewish faith and traditions and that Zionists are the greatest enemies to the Jewish people. We appeal to people of good will in the media itself to open their minds and hearts to what we are proclaiming about the truth of Judaism, which has been distorted by the Zionists. http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/index.cfm nice |
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So why do Christians support Zionism? It is because of the way they have been influenced by their faith. They still believe that Zionism represents today's true Jews. (I believe they have been manipulated.)
Below is how why they support this political movement. With this information, it is difficult for anyone to tell me that the war in the middle east is not a holy war. It is supported for reasons of faith and false teachings in my opinion. Mission Statement of Got Questions Ministries: "Got Questions Ministries seeks to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by providing Biblical, applicable, and timely answers to spiritually-related questions through an internet presence." GotQuestions.org is a volunteer ministry of dedicated and trained servants who have a desire to assist others in their understanding of God, Scripture, salvation, and other spiritual topics. We are Christian, Protestant, conservative, evangelical, fundamental, and non-denominational. We view ourselves as a para-church ministry, coming alongside the church to help people find answers to their spiritually related questions. ********************************************** Question: "What is Zionism / Christian Zionism?" Answer: Zionism, simply a political movement at its inception, has today become more of an ideology than anything else. By definition, Zionism is an international movement for the return of the Jewish people to Zion, the Land of Israel, while exercising the right to retain authority of government over the state of Israel, which was promised to them in the Hebrew Scriptures. The roots for Zionism lie in Genesis chapters 12 and 15, in which God makes a covenant with Abraham promising him that his descendants would inherit the land between Egypt and the Euphrates River. Due to the fact that Zionism was begun as a politically motivated movement, there exists, among secular Gentiles and non-religious Jews, a line of thought stating that the religious background of the Jewish people had nothing to do with Zionism. It is argued that Zionism was instead a reaction of the Jewish people to worldwide persecution during World Wars I and II. No nation would take them in, so they were forced to create their own nation, the land of their ancestry being the most opportune place. Regardless, the Zionist movement, begun in the late 1890s, found fulfillment in 1948 when Israel was officially recognized as a state and granted sovereignty as a nation within Palestine by the United Nations. This is when, technically, the political Zionist movement ended and the ideology of Zionism began, and as such, has become a much-debated topic. Some would say that Zionism has become a motivation for racism, or a reaction against anti-Semitism. Others believe that Zionism as it currently exists is merely Jewish patriotism. Associated with Jewish Zionism is Christian Zionism. Christian Zionism is simply Gentile support of Jewish Zionism as based on the promises to Israel found in the Bible, passages such as Jeremiah 32 and Ezekiel 34. Christian Zionists are primarily evangelical, and give support in any way possible for the Jewish state of Israel. The return of the Jews to the Promised Land is the fulfillment of prophecy and is seen, especially by dispensationalists, as a sign that the world has entered the End Times. |
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So why do Christians support Zionism? It is because of the way they have been influenced by their faith. They still believe that Zionism represents today's true Jews. (I believe they have been manipulated.) Below is how why they support this political movement. With this information, it is difficult for anyone to tell me that the war in the middle east is not a holy war. It is supported for reasons of faith and false teachings in my opinion. Mission Statement of Got Questions Ministries: "Got Questions Ministries seeks to glorify the Lord Jesus Christ by providing Biblical, applicable, and timely answers to spiritually-related questions through an internet presence." GotQuestions.org is a volunteer ministry of dedicated and trained servants who have a desire to assist others in their understanding of God, Scripture, salvation, and other spiritual topics. We are Christian, Protestant, conservative, evangelical, fundamental, and non-denominational. We view ourselves as a para-church ministry, coming alongside the church to help people find answers to their spiritually related questions. ********************************************** Question: "What is Zionism / Christian Zionism?" Answer: Zionism, simply a political movement at its inception, has today become more of an ideology than anything else. By definition, Zionism is an international movement for the return of the Jewish people to Zion, the Land of Israel, while exercising the right to retain authority of government over the state of Israel, which was promised to them in the Hebrew Scriptures. The roots for Zionism lie in Genesis chapters 12 and 15, in which God makes a covenant with Abraham promising him that his descendants would inherit the land between Egypt and the Euphrates River. Due to the fact that Zionism was begun as a politically motivated movement, there exists, among secular Gentiles and non-religious Jews, a line of thought stating that the religious background of the Jewish people had nothing to do with Zionism. It is argued that Zionism was instead a reaction of the Jewish people to worldwide persecution during World Wars I and II. No nation would take them in, so they were forced to create their own nation, the land of their ancestry being the most opportune place. Regardless, the Zionist movement, begun in the late 1890s, found fulfillment in 1948 when Israel was officially recognized as a state and granted sovereignty as a nation within Palestine by the United Nations. This is when, technically, the political Zionist movement ended and the ideology of Zionism began, and as such, has become a much-debated topic. Some would say that Zionism has become a motivation for racism, or a reaction against anti-Semitism. Others believe that Zionism as it currently exists is merely Jewish patriotism. Associated with Jewish Zionism is Christian Zionism. Christian Zionism is simply Gentile support of Jewish Zionism as based on the promises to Israel found in the Bible, passages such as Jeremiah 32 and Ezekiel 34. Christian Zionists are primarily evangelical, and give support in any way possible for the Jewish state of Israel. The return of the Jews to the Promised Land is the fulfillment of prophecy and is seen, especially by dispensationalists, as a sign that the world has entered the End Times. especially by dispensationalists, as a sign that the world has entered the End Times. key to futurist thinking and teaching, but they wll fight you tooth and nail in there holding on to the "teaching!" |
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Sat 07/12/08 09:33 PM
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Edited by
MirrorMirror
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Sat 07/12/08 09:39 PM
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.. and who said religion was the answer to peace?
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What if the UN decided it would be best that this area that holds so much world attention because Mohammed, Jesus, and Abraham evolved there would be cleared out. This whole area of Israel and Palestinen was cleared out meaning not a single living soul can live there for it is to holy to have humans feet on it. So it just stays empty.
The Jews would live in America or a country that accepts them. They get a whole state somewhere to build their towns and the Palestinens will get a Muslim country that will accept them to create their own towns. The area that is so sensitive and caused many wars should be not touched anymore. Now I know this will never happen as the Jews and Palestinens will continue to fight each other over the land for many many years. Adults with the highest educational degrees one can ask for cannot come to a resolution in that area. Very very sad! |
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What if the UN decided it would be best that this area that holds so much world attention because Mohammed, Jesus, and Abraham evolved there would be cleared out. This whole area of Israel and Palestinen was cleared out meaning not a single living soul can live there for it is to holy to have humans feet on it. So it just stays empty. The Jews would live in America or a country that accepts them. They get a whole state somewhere to build their towns and the Palestinens will get a Muslim country that will accept them to create their own towns. The area that is so sensitive and caused many wars should be not touched anymore. Now I know this will never happen as the Jews and Palestinens will continue to fight each other over the land for many many years. Adults with the highest educational degrees one can ask for cannot come to a resolution in that area. Very very sad! Who gave the U.N. the power to decide this? That would be the main concern. Screw the U.N. They have no business doing what they do now, let alone something like that. I am anti-U.N. as you can see. I think they are evil and infiltrated with ... well I will just say... the bad guys. JB |
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What if the UN decided it would be best that this area that holds so much world attention because Mohammed, Jesus, and Abraham evolved there would be cleared out. This whole area of Israel and Palestinen was cleared out meaning not a single living soul can live there for it is to holy to have humans feet on it. So it just stays empty. The Jews would live in America or a country that accepts them. They get a whole state somewhere to build their towns and the Palestinens will get a Muslim country that will accept them to create their own towns. The area that is so sensitive and caused many wars should be not touched anymore. Now I know this will never happen as the Jews and Palestinens will continue to fight each other over the land for many many years. Adults with the highest educational degrees one can ask for cannot come to a resolution in that area. Very very sad! Who gave the U.N. the power to decide this? That would be the main concern. Screw the U.N. They have no business doing what they do now, let alone something like that. I am anti-U.N. as you can see. I think they are evil and infiltrated with ... well I will just say... the bad guys. JB The UN has 190 nations collaborated together to discuss issues on how to keep peace on earth. Now I know they have done a miserable job, but let us say we just create a new world foundation that will vote what is best in war zones and the decision is to have everyone leave this land of holyiness to muslims, jews, and christians to preserve peace would that be worth it? I am also in disagreement of how the UN decided in 1948 with the world powers to suddenly accept Israel as a nation without consulting neigboring countries who didn't have a chance to give their opinions on the matter. |
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Actually my proposal will never happen anyway, but I just think that this escalating problem will have the world involved in it sooner or later. I just don't hope it becomes a world war because of it!
I am sure there are so many solutions people come up with, yet they aren't practiced. Israel will continue to fight to keep their country and Palestinen's will continue to fight to have a country. Pretty sad story! |
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Actually my proposal will never happen anyway, but I just think that this escalating problem will have the world involved in it sooner or later. I just don't hope it becomes a world war because of it! I am sure there are so many solutions people come up with, yet they aren't practiced. Israel will fight to keep there country and Palestinen's will fight to have a country. Pretty sad story! This is true, It will never happen. If the UN's job is about world peace and they have failed at that so miserably they should be disbanded. They are a farce and they are now just trying to push people around. They want to be the new government of the world when the new world order comes into power. JB conspiracy theorist... ![]() |
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i dont think its a conspiricy as much as a fact
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i dont think its a conspiricy as much as a fact The UN works for the US and their allies like Israel and NATO . Are you surprised ?. Just have a look at their past ten years . |
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