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Topic: Dismantle the ACLU
adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Sat 07/05/08 07:20 AM
I agree the ACLU needs to be stopped. They are constantly suing the gov for illegal immigration laws. Every time a State makes a law to enforce existing Federal laws concerning Illegal immigration the ACLU jumps up and files lawsuits on behalf of the illegal immigrants! It seems they are constantly taking up one cause or another against Americans. I always thought they were supposed to be on our side. They aren't funded by tax dollars however so that wouldn't help. The most you could hope for is to get their tax-exempt status removed, and stop their lobbying of politicians in Washington. Most all their donations come from private donations. I would like to find out who these people are exactly. Some are fondations such as pro-life, Carnegie, etc. Others, and probably giving larger sums, (I suspect) are various corporations, who benefit from illegal immigration. You might find out who these people are and then boycott their goods and services. Despite the name however they are not a Gov org. Pro-life for ACLU? I think NOT. Pro abortion YES. The ACLU is the most despicable entity in the USA. Lindyy i would have to say congress has that titlie

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Sat 07/05/08 08:56 AM
DES MOINES -- The Iowa Civil Liberties Union today blasted school officials for threatening to punish two teenage girls who wore anti-abortion T-shirts to school. The group also offered to assist the students in their quest to continue wearing the shirts at school. "These students had their free speech rights violated, and the ICLU stands ready to defend them," said Ben Stone, Executive Director of the ICLU. "This appears to be a clear case of government abuse of power, and it must be stopped." The ICLU, which staunchly defends the reproductive rights of women, also has a long track record of defending the rights of anti-abortion and conservative Christian groups. In 1990, the Iowa affiliate of the ACLU successfully represented an anti-abortion group in a dispute with Iowa City over an unconstitutional parade ordinance. In 1995, a conservative Christian activist, Elaine Jaquith of Waterloo, had her rights vindicated by the ICLU in a case involving her free speech rights on public access television. Conservative Christians in Clarke County in 1997 won the right to force a county referendum on gambling after the ICLU took up their case. In addition, the ICLU submitted a friend-of-the-court brief in 2002 in support of the right of students in Davenport schools to distribute Christian literature, including Bibles, during non-instructional time. The school eventually backed down and allowed the literature to be distributed. "When the ACLU and ICLU say we defend everyone's rights, we mean it," said Stone. For more information on the ACLU's work defending religious liberty, go to "". http://www.aclu.org/studentsrights/expression/12852prs20050429.html Upon further investigation these are isolated incidents and in more cases than not they do oppose the the attempts by the pro life organization to stomp on the rights of women to seek an abortion. Although the pro-life organization does at times, as in these cases fund the ACLU! My original statement that they are not funded in any way by the government stands! The ACLU receives funding from a large number of sources. For example, in 2004, the ACLU and its affiliate, the American Civil Liberties Union Foundation reported revenues totaling $85,559,887. Of that total, 87% was from donations and dues from the public, 1.8% from program services, including awards of legal fees, royalty income, and literature sales, and the remainder from investment income and income from sale of assets. The distribution and amount of funding for state affiliates varies from state to state. For example, the ACLU of New Jersey reported $1.2 million in income to both the ACLU-NJ and its affiliated tax-exempt foundation in the 2005 fiscal year. Of that income, 46% came from contributions, 19% came from membership dues, 18% came from court awarded attorney fees, 12% came from grants, 4% came from investment income and the remainder from other sources. Its expenses in the same period were $800,000, of which 12% went to administration and management. Smaller affiliates with fewer resources, such as that in Nebraska, receive subsidies from the national ACLU. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACLU

cutelildevilsmom Joined Sat 04/07/07 Posts: 8862	Sat 07/05/08 10:25 AM
We dont have any REAL civil liberties anyway I think my grandparents were free But now your only as free as your allowed to be at the moment This U.S. government can lock me and you up and throw away the key and not blink an eye. They dont give a damned how loyal you are May I ask where you get your information to make the above statements? I would like to know what you have read to ignite your opinions in such a negative manner. Lindyy Has the patriot act slipped your mind? NOT HARDLY. If YOU WANT ATTACKED AGAIN - GO FOR IT. BE AGAINST THE PATRIOT ACT, ONLY DO NOT COME CRYING TO ME. Lindyy The Patriot Act is bull**** and unless we have the worst intelligience since the Keystone cops,we knew 911 was brewing.The Patriot Act will not stop terrorism and ask all the Japanese who were sent to internment camps during WW2 even as their relatives were fighting for this country,what it means to have your basic freedoms stripped away because of misplaced paranoia. It's thinking like this that put us all in harm's way in the first place. Thanks for nothing. Yep my thinking the Constitution should mean something caused 911.

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Sat 07/05/08 10:33 AM
Yep, That's what it was! Then you ran over to Iraq and hid every one of Saddams WMD!! I knew it, I knew it all along.....

Gretali Joined Sun 06/01/08 Posts: 66	Sat 07/05/08 10:33 AM
We dont have any REAL civil liberties anyway I think my grandparents were free But now your only as free as your allowed to be at the moment This U.S. government can lock me and you up and throw away the key and not blink an eye. They dont give a damned how loyal you are No one is doing that... They play hardball with criminals...and rightfully so. Do you want to be attacked & bullied by thugs or not? the problem comes in when the checks and balances in deciding who is a criminal are thrown out. for a long time the us criminal justice system, far from perfect was the most fair thing going. now This U.S. government can lock me and you up and throw away the key and not blink an eye. , etc...

cutelildevilsmom Joined Sat 04/07/07 Posts: 8862	Sat 07/05/08 10:35 AM
Yep, That's what it was! Then you ran over to Iraq and hid every one of Saddams WMD!! I knew it, I knew it all along..... I'm busted!!

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Sat 07/05/08 10:40 AM
Yep, That's what it was! Then you ran over to Iraq and hid every one of Saddams WMD!! I knew it, I knew it all along..... I'm busted!! Hey girl

cutelildevilsmom Joined Sat 04/07/07 Posts: 8862	Sat 07/05/08 10:50 AM
Yep, That's what it was! Then you ran over to Iraq and hid every one of Saddams WMD!! I knew it, I knew it all along..... I'm busted!! Hey girl hey buddy

Dragoness Joined Wed 10/17/07 Posts: 23320	Sat 07/05/08 01:50 PM
I think it's a bit arrogant for some govt. funded org to tell americans what rights they want us to have with their twisted interpretation of our GUARANTEED rights. I think it's time tax payer dollars cut them off. Especially in this economic & political climate. http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=68695 The American Civil Liberties is getting blasted on its own blog site for holding onto the belief that the 2nd Amendment to the U.S. Constitution establishes a collective right for militias to have weapons, even though the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled the right applies to individuals. "Sorry ACLU you lost me," wrote SuperNaut. "I just took the money I had slated to re-up my lapsed ACLU membership and used it to re-up my NRA membership." Hundreds of comments have been posted in just the first few days of July, almost uniformly condemning the ACLU's explanation of its position on gun rights, which is that individuals don't have them. "The ACLU interprets the Second Amendment as a collective right. Therefore, we disagree with the Supreme Court's decision in D.C. v. Heller," the page started. "While the decision is a significant and historic reinterpretation of the right to keep and bear arms, the decision leaves many important questions unanswered that will have to be resolved in future litigation, including what regulations are permissible, and which weapons are embraced by the Second Amendment right that the Court has now recognized." I am supportive of the ACLU, if you were ever in a pinch with the government denying you rights, you would want the ACLU on your side. As for guns, like I have said before, I hope all the idiots who have guns only shoot the other idiots who have guns and leave us innocent bystanders alone. Wow so your saying that everyone who owns a gun is an idiot...I guess that just shows how ill informed you are. Sorry, seen them, drunks waving a loaded gun to intimidate their neighbors, road ragers waving them around, home owners who have their own weapon used against them because they don't know how to handle their own weapon, children shooting each other because of idiot gun toting parents, the list goes on and on. I am all for gun ownership if sane responsible, sober, mentally stable, even tempered, etc.... people can be the only ones owning them. Too many idiots get by the restrictions and then feel "invincible" because they own a gun. I will say it again, as long as the idiots with guns only shoot the other idiots with guns and leave us innocent bystanders alone, I am all for it.

Drivinmenutz Joined Wed 11/14/07 Posts: 4290	Sun 07/06/08 06:29 AM
I think it's a bit arrogant for some govt. funded org to tell americans what rights they want us to have with their twisted interpretation of our GUARANTEED rights. I think it's time tax payer dollars cut them off. Especially in this economic & political climate. http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=68695 The American Civil Liberties is getting blasted on its own blog site for holding onto the belief that the 2nd Amendment to the U.S. Constitution establishes a collective right for militias to have weapons, even though the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled the right applies to individuals. "Sorry ACLU you lost me," wrote SuperNaut. "I just took the money I had slated to re-up my lapsed ACLU membership and used it to re-up my NRA membership." Hundreds of comments have been posted in just the first few days of July, almost uniformly condemning the ACLU's explanation of its position on gun rights, which is that individuals don't have them. "The ACLU interprets the Second Amendment as a collective right. Therefore, we disagree with the Supreme Court's decision in D.C. v. Heller," the page started. "While the decision is a significant and historic reinterpretation of the right to keep and bear arms, the decision leaves many important questions unanswered that will have to be resolved in future litigation, including what regulations are permissible, and which weapons are embraced by the Second Amendment right that the Court has now recognized." I am supportive of the ACLU, if you were ever in a pinch with the government denying you rights, you would want the ACLU on your side. As for guns, like I have said before, I hope all the idiots who have guns only shoot the other idiots who have guns and leave us innocent bystanders alone. Wow so your saying that everyone who owns a gun is an idiot...I guess that just shows how ill informed you are. Sorry, seen them, drunks waving a loaded gun to intimidate their neighbors, road ragers waving them around, home owners who have their own weapon used against them because they don't know how to handle their own weapon, children shooting each other because of idiot gun toting parents, the list goes on and on. I am all for gun ownership if sane responsible, sober, mentally stable, even tempered, etc.... people can be the only ones owning them. Too many idiots get by the restrictions and then feel "invincible" because they own a gun. I will say it again, as long as the idiots with guns only shoot the other idiots with guns and leave us innocent bystanders alone, I am all for it. Our forefathers intended for every free citizen to be allowed to have firearms. Unfortunately a necesary evil is that some people will be armed that shouldn't be. Then again, that would be the case if firearms weren't allowed as well.