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Topic: Dismantle the ACLU
BrandonJItaliano Joined Tue 01/15/08 Posts: 1022	Fri 07/04/08 07:54 PM
Its just another BIG BUISSNESS, so if were on that train of demolition, Lets start with OPEC lol

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Fri 07/04/08 07:57 PM
The only reason I entered this thread was to dispel the myth that the ACLU was government funded!

BrandonJItaliano Joined Tue 01/15/08 Posts: 1022	Fri 07/04/08 07:57 PM Edited by BrandonJItaliano on Fri 07/04/08 07:59 PM
Who said it was? Was it that crazy quikstepper "lady" that attacked me ealier, (Oh by the way i hope she knows "quik" isnt spelled right) lol

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Fri 07/04/08 08:01 PM Edited by Fanta46 on Fri 07/04/08 08:03 PM
While they do have tax-exempt status they are not funded by tax dollars. I do think the tax-exempt status should be lifted though. Esp if they are going to represent illegal immigrant groups to fight the laws set forth and on the books governing illegal immigration, and show such indiscretion as to represent the pro-life organization. Actually they have proven to represent both sides of that issue which IMO shows a lack of ethics!

BrandonJItaliano Joined Tue 01/15/08 Posts: 1022	Fri 07/04/08 08:03 PM
I happen to aggree with u on this one, but if there force to dismantle, then whats next?

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Fri 07/04/08 08:06 PM
I dont know! I dont think its possible to dismantle them. I used to support them and they do perform a good cause most of the time. I just think the tax-exempt status should go!

BrandonJItaliano Joined Tue 01/15/08 Posts: 1022	Fri 07/04/08 08:09 PM Edited by BrandonJItaliano on Fri 07/04/08 08:10 PM
I feel the same way about congragated religions, 2 be completly honest

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Fri 07/04/08 08:12 PM
I feel the same way about congragated religions, 2 be completly honest At least they help the needy.

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Fri 07/04/08 08:14 PM Edited by Fanta46 on Fri 07/04/08 08:16 PM
There are certain areas where their money is spent though that should not be tax-exempt! Like money given to pro-life organizations, and inridiculous court battles like fighting the banning of school prayers and such!

BrandonJItaliano Joined Tue 01/15/08 Posts: 1022	Fri 07/04/08 08:15 PM
Im just for a level playing Field thats all

BrandonJItaliano Joined Tue 01/15/08 Posts: 1022	Fri 07/04/08 08:18 PM
I mean though, take a look at Pat Robertsons organization, under what circumstance should a multi-million dollor buissness that has made him a very wealthy man, be take exempt? Just cause they claim 2 be a church? Just cause they claim to help the needy? There has to be a line somewhere

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Fri 07/04/08 08:26 PM
I mean though, take a look at Pat Robertsons organization, under what circumstance should a multi-million dollor buissness that has made him a very wealthy man, be take exempt? Just cause they claim 2 be a church? Just cause they claim to help the needy? There has to be a line somewhere Oh yeah, He severely blurs the reasoning behind tax-exempt status. He does do some good, but far more of the money is spent for reasons that should not qualify as tax-exempt.

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Fri 07/04/08 08:32 PM
Not just him though Billy Graham and several others should be forced to separate the reasoning behind which income should be considered tax-exempt and which shouldn't! I know ole' Billy has a place here in Asheville called the Cove! They have multi-million dollar condos stretch out all over the place. Its like a small elite community which serves no purpose other than to put up rich well to do supporters for vacations and conferences! I know because Ive done work in there building some of them! It is a gated community far up a Cove away from prying eyes. It should be taxed!

BrandonJItaliano Joined Tue 01/15/08 Posts: 1022	Fri 07/04/08 08:51 PM
No doubt,

Dragoness Joined Wed 10/17/07 Posts: 23320	Fri 07/04/08 09:13 PM
I think it's a bit arrogant for some govt. funded org to tell americans what rights they want us to have with their twisted interpretation of our GUARANTEED rights. I think it's time tax payer dollars cut them off. Especially in this economic & political climate. http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=68695 The American Civil Liberties is getting blasted on its own blog site for holding onto the belief that the 2nd Amendment to the U.S. Constitution establishes a collective right for militias to have weapons, even though the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled the right applies to individuals. "Sorry ACLU you lost me," wrote SuperNaut. "I just took the money I had slated to re-up my lapsed ACLU membership and used it to re-up my NRA membership." Hundreds of comments have been posted in just the first few days of July, almost uniformly condemning the ACLU's explanation of its position on gun rights, which is that individuals don't have them. "The ACLU interprets the Second Amendment as a collective right. Therefore, we disagree with the Supreme Court's decision in D.C. v. Heller," the page started. "While the decision is a significant and historic reinterpretation of the right to keep and bear arms, the decision leaves many important questions unanswered that will have to be resolved in future litigation, including what regulations are permissible, and which weapons are embraced by the Second Amendment right that the Court has now recognized." I am supportive of the ACLU, if you were ever in a pinch with the government denying you rights, you would want the ACLU on your side. As for guns, like I have said before, I hope all the idiots who have guns only shoot the other idiots who have guns and leave us innocent bystanders alone.

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Fri 07/04/08 09:14 PM


rayne5 Joined Sun 12/16/07 Posts: 398	Fri 07/04/08 11:20 PM
I think it's a bit arrogant for some govt. funded org to tell americans what rights they want us to have with their twisted interpretation of our GUARANTEED rights. I think it's time tax payer dollars cut them off. Especially in this economic & political climate. http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=68695 The American Civil Liberties is getting blasted on its own blog site for holding onto the belief that the 2nd Amendment to the U.S. Constitution establishes a collective right for militias to have weapons, even though the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled the right applies to individuals. "Sorry ACLU you lost me," wrote SuperNaut. "I just took the money I had slated to re-up my lapsed ACLU membership and used it to re-up my NRA membership." Hundreds of comments have been posted in just the first few days of July, almost uniformly condemning the ACLU's explanation of its position on gun rights, which is that individuals don't have them. "The ACLU interprets the Second Amendment as a collective right. Therefore, we disagree with the Supreme Court's decision in D.C. v. Heller," the page started. "While the decision is a significant and historic reinterpretation of the right to keep and bear arms, the decision leaves many important questions unanswered that will have to be resolved in future litigation, including what regulations are permissible, and which weapons are embraced by the Second Amendment right that the Court has now recognized." I am supportive of the ACLU, if you were ever in a pinch with the government denying you rights, you would want the ACLU on your side. As for guns, like I have said before, I hope all the idiots who have guns only shoot the other idiots who have guns and leave us innocent bystanders alone. Wow so your saying that everyone who owns a gun is an idiot...I guess that just shows how ill informed you are.

Quikstepper Joined Mon 04/28/08 Posts: 2998	Sat 07/05/08 03:02 AM
I think it's a bit arrogant for some govt. funded org to tell americans what rights they want us to have with their twisted interpretation of our GUARANTEED rights. I think it's time tax payer dollars cut them off. Especially in this economic & political climate. http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=68695 The American Civil Liberties is getting blasted on its own blog site for holding onto the belief that the 2nd Amendment to the U.S. Constitution establishes a collective right for militias to have weapons, even though the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled the right applies to individuals. "Sorry ACLU you lost me," wrote SuperNaut. "I just took the money I had slated to re-up my lapsed ACLU membership and used it to re-up my NRA membership." Hundreds of comments have been posted in just the first few days of July, almost uniformly condemning the ACLU's explanation of its position on gun rights, which is that individuals don't have them. "The ACLU interprets the Second Amendment as a collective right. Therefore, we disagree with the Supreme Court's decision in D.C. v. Heller," the page started. "While the decision is a significant and historic reinterpretation of the right to keep and bear arms, the decision leaves many important questions unanswered that will have to be resolved in future litigation, including what regulations are permissible, and which weapons are embraced by the Second Amendment right that the Court has now recognized." I am supportive of the ACLU, if you were ever in a pinch with the government denying you rights, you would want the ACLU on your side. As for guns, like I have said before, I hope all the idiots who have guns only shoot the other idiots who have guns and leave us innocent bystanders alone. Wow so your saying that everyone who owns a gun is an idiot...I guess that just shows how ill informed you are. Yessiree ...OOPS! Don't look now but their lack of knowledge is bleeding again...like a BAD nose bleed. I prefer the ACLJ over the ACLU anyday. The ACLU is over the top anymore & destroying our country defending the indefenseless.

cutelildevilsmom Joined Sat 04/07/07 Posts: 8862	Sat 07/05/08 05:37 AM
We dont have any REAL civil liberties anyway I think my grandparents were free But now your only as free as your allowed to be at the moment This U.S. government can lock me and you up and throw away the key and not blink an eye. They dont give a damned how loyal you are May I ask where you get your information to make the above statements? I would like to know what you have read to ignite your opinions in such a negative manner. Lindyy Has the patriot act slipped your mind? NOT HARDLY. If YOU WANT ATTACKED AGAIN - GO FOR IT. BE AGAINST THE PATRIOT ACT, ONLY DO NOT COME CRYING TO ME. Lindyy The Patriot Act is bull**** and unless we have the worst intelligience since the Keystone cops,we knew 911 was brewing.The Patriot Act will not stop terrorism and ask all the Japanese who were sent to internment camps during WW2 even as their relatives were fighting for this country,what it means to have your basic freedoms stripped away because of misplaced paranoia.

Quikstepper Joined Mon 04/28/08 Posts: 2998	Sat 07/05/08 06:38 AM
We dont have any REAL civil liberties anyway I think my grandparents were free But now your only as free as your allowed to be at the moment This U.S. government can lock me and you up and throw away the key and not blink an eye. They dont give a damned how loyal you are May I ask where you get your information to make the above statements? I would like to know what you have read to ignite your opinions in such a negative manner. Lindyy Has the patriot act slipped your mind? NOT HARDLY. If YOU WANT ATTACKED AGAIN - GO FOR IT. BE AGAINST THE PATRIOT ACT, ONLY DO NOT COME CRYING TO ME. Lindyy The Patriot Act is bull**** and unless we have the worst intelligience since the Keystone cops,we knew 911 was brewing.The Patriot Act will not stop terrorism and ask all the Japanese who were sent to internment camps during WW2 even as their relatives were fighting for this country,what it means to have your basic freedoms stripped away because of misplaced paranoia. It's thinking like this that put us all in harm's way in the first place. Thanks for nothing.