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Edited by
MirrorMirror
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Wed 07/02/08 07:14 AM
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“sleep deprivation,” “prolonged constraint,” and “exposure.” Wow, real bad stuff there. And, I want proof. There isn't even a source named at all in this one. They don't even use a 'top unnamed Pentagon' or 'top CIA' source. There is no mention at all. To just believe anything you are told to believe is ridiculous. Much more so than the profile picture of yours.  Dont take my word for it. Its all over the news about U.S. interrogators working with and using Communist Chinese torture techniques. The same torture that was used on American POWs in the Korean war. Dont believe me, look it up yourself. That's not what I said. I watch the news 24/7 so I know it is on there, its all over the cable and newspaper media. But, who are the sources for this report? They don't even use the unnamed sources in the article. There is no mention of where this came from.  Its troubling that the accusation would even be made. This is not the America I read about in the history books. We are better than that (or used to be). What is troubling is that you would immediately believe any accusation anyone would state. That is what you just said. This isnt the first time this has been said. Yes it is. Never heard about these Chinese torture techniques before. We've waterboarded three guys, Khalid Sheik Mohammad and two other big timers along with him. But, we have not heard about this Chinese thing before. They apparently copied the Communist Chinese manual for torture verbatim. Apparently, according to who? A newsreporter? Because that's all we have from that article. I'm going to guess it was a 'top Pentagon official who will go unnamed' as they usually do to get away with anything. Who knows there even was an unnamed source? Going so gungho off of reports that have no named source or evidence to support it is very weak. Its being reported by many reliable sources. All of the major television and print media Yes, that is because it is fireworks of news. Do remember fantastic news was reported first by the New York Times and then carried elsewhere on numerous stories that were later retracted because of horrible journalism. And, DO REMEMBER the case of the scientist, Steven Hatfill, who was immediately accused and found guilty by all press, all major media, as being behind the anthrax case. He was guilty before even a trial and with practically no evidence to pin it on him. He has now been found 100% and is receiving $5 million in damages from the federal government. Steven Hatfill was an innocent man and the reliable sources ran with the firework story to destroy his life and reputation. I get your point I just seen on the news a video of American soldiers teaching the Mexican military these torture techniques. Actual video.
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Edited by
Starsailor2851
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Wed 07/02/08 07:18 AM
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“sleep deprivation,” “prolonged constraint,” and “exposure.” Wow, real bad stuff there. And, I want proof. There isn't even a source named at all in this one. They don't even use a 'top unnamed Pentagon' or 'top CIA' source. There is no mention at all. To just believe anything you are told to believe is ridiculous. Much more so than the profile picture of yours. Dont take my word for it. Its all over the news about U.S. interrogators working with and using Communist Chinese torture techniques. The same torture that was used on American POWs in the Korean war. Dont believe me, look it up yourself. That's not what I said. I watch the news 24/7 so I know it is on there, its all over the cable and newspaper media. But, who are the sources for this report? They don't even use the unnamed sources in the article. There is no mention of where this came from. Its troubling that the accusation would even be made. This is not the America I read about in the history books. We are better than that (or used to be). What is troubling is that you would immediately believe any accusation anyone would state. That is what you just said. This isnt the first time this has been said. Yes it is. Never heard about these Chinese torture techniques before. We've waterboarded three guys, Khalid Sheik Mohammad and two other big timers along with him. But, we have not heard about this Chinese thing before. They apparently copied the Communist Chinese manual for torture verbatim. Apparently, according to who? A newsreporter? Because that's all we have from that article. I'm going to guess it was a 'top Pentagon official who will go unnamed' as they usually do to get away with anything. Who knows there even was an unnamed source? Going so gungho off of reports that have no named source or evidence to support it is very weak. Its being reported by many reliable sources. All of the major television and print media Yes, that is because it is fireworks of news. Do remember fantastic news was reported first by the New York Times and then carried elsewhere on numerous stories that were later retracted because of horrible journalism. And, DO REMEMBER the case of the scientist, Steven Hatfill, who was immediately accused and found guilty by all press, all major media, as being behind the anthrax case. He was guilty before even a trial and with practically no evidence to pin it on him. He has now been found 100% and is receiving $5 million in damages from the federal government. Steven Hatfill was an innocent man and the reliable sources ran with the firework story to destroy his life and reputation. I get your point I just seen on the news a video of American soldiers teaching the Mexican military these torture techniques. Actual video. We live in a different world than these people who must deal with individuals who would mow down families with gunfire, strap bombs on children, and boobytrap children's toys for their own gains. These Mexican officials were being taught how to deal mentally with harsh interrogation and torture should they be captured by drug cartels. Just like CIA and our special forces are waterboarded and given brutal training to prepare them to withstand very harsh torture and interrogation so they won't divulge delicate information. |
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“sleep deprivation,” “prolonged constraint,” and “exposure.” Wow, real bad stuff there. And, I want proof. There isn't even a source named at all in this one. They don't even use a 'top unnamed Pentagon' or 'top CIA' source. There is no mention at all. To just believe anything you are told to believe is ridiculous. Much more so than the profile picture of yours. Dont take my word for it. Its all over the news about U.S. interrogators working with and using Communist Chinese torture techniques. The same torture that was used on American POWs in the Korean war. Dont believe me, look it up yourself. That's not what I said. I watch the news 24/7 so I know it is on there, its all over the cable and newspaper media. But, who are the sources for this report? They don't even use the unnamed sources in the article. There is no mention of where this came from. Its troubling that the accusation would even be made. This is not the America I read about in the history books. We are better than that (or used to be). What is troubling is that you would immediately believe any accusation anyone would state. That is what you just said. This isnt the first time this has been said. Yes it is. Never heard about these Chinese torture techniques before. We've waterboarded three guys, Khalid Sheik Mohammad and two other big timers along with him. But, we have not heard about this Chinese thing before. They apparently copied the Communist Chinese manual for torture verbatim. Apparently, according to who? A newsreporter? Because that's all we have from that article. I'm going to guess it was a 'top Pentagon official who will go unnamed' as they usually do to get away with anything. Who knows there even was an unnamed source? Going so gungho off of reports that have no named source or evidence to support it is very weak. Its being reported by many reliable sources. All of the major television and print media Yes, that is because it is fireworks of news. Do remember fantastic news was reported first by the New York Times and then carried elsewhere on numerous stories that were later retracted because of horrible journalism. And, DO REMEMBER the case of the scientist, Steven Hatfill, who was immediately accused and found guilty by all press, all major media, as being behind the anthrax case. He was guilty before even a trial and with practically no evidence to pin it on him. He has now been found 100% and is receiving $5 million in damages from the federal government. Steven Hatfill was an innocent man and the reliable sources ran with the firework story to destroy his life and reputation. I get your point I just seen on the news a video of American soldiers teaching the Mexican military these torture techniques. Actual video. We live in a different world than these people who must deal with individuals who would mow down families with gunfire, strap bombs on children, and boobytrap children's toys for their own gains. These Mexican officials were being taught how to deal mentally with harsh interrogation and torture should they be captured by drug cartels. Just like CIA and our special forces are waterboarded and given brutal training to prepare them to withstand very harsh torture and interrogation so they won't divulge delicate information. Once again I get your point However, torture is an evil act. I dont believe in that sort of moral relativism. Im not so sure that a person really can be prepared for extended periods of torture and captivity. Just because evil countries engage in this practice does not make it right for us to do it.
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Some say don't do that what you don't want done to you
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Some say don't do that what you don't want done to you good point
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