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...exist?
Or am I being and idealistic fool who lives an utopic dream? Money, power, and possessions pass but a man's honor, word, and loyalty will always remain. However, does men have honor, word, and loyalty in the first place? What is a man without honor? As far as I understand, just a street DOG. Because even house's dogs are loyal to their masters. TLW |
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in some places and things it does
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Honor sill counts.
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I started to wonder the same thing at one point, until I got to know a wonderful man that showed me differently.
Its funny that I was just thinking about this last week. However in the past men have crossed my path that made promises and didn't keep them. They said whatever they needed to say at the time for their own selfish reasons. I was really questioning if any guy could be honest, caring and faithful without any strings attached. But I have been shown that a guy can be this and more. |
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Knew a lady who offered her honor. I was the guy who honored her offer. All night long, it was honor and offer.
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I hope it still exsits! (((TLW)))
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Honor, loyalty, etc. abound.
My theory is, we attract that which we are...so those who are honorable, loyal, sincere, true to their word will attract the same. A person (man or woman) is nothing, zero, zilch if they are not true to themselves, those they love, their values, their word - regardless of circumstance. |
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Honor, loyalty, etc. abound. My theory is, we attract that which we are...so those who are honorable, loyal, sincere, true to their word will attract the same. A person (man or woman) is nothing, zero, zilch if they are not true to themselves, those they love, their values, their word - regardless of circumstance. that was excellent, mommie!
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I've always held to the belief that man, or humanity in this case, well we are born basically good. It's the growing up part, what we see on a daily basis, and who we become in our later teen years, young adult and then adult lives that we really show who we are.
People can be corrupted. A man can start out as an idealist in college, then he gets into the "real world" and he sees things that go against his own ideals. He witnesses someone stepping over another just for a higher position. He sees a married couple (and he went to there wedding and heard them say there vows about how much they love one another and be faithful to one another)and both of them are commiting adultery. He sees parents not being parents, breaking promises to kids because work is more important and I gotta make that car payment (You know, the expensive car that he/she didn't need in the first place but had to have so it appeared he/she was keeping up with the Jones'). In today's world, I don't think people are honorable anymore. I will be blunt here...we are all selfish pricks. I have honor, but I also know that I have fallen into being selfish too. I know others who have honor, but they fall too. It just happens. People have forgotten what is most important in life, and that is loving and caring for others. It's okay to want things, and for you to reward yourself. But to always think of yourself, and about what "YOU" want? That's just selfish. We need more truth in the world today. |
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wow, goofball, I am truly sorry that you have this prespective.
All the situations that you have described above, I have witnessed or been exposed to. I feel that yes there are some people that are complete enveloped into their own selfishness however, I hope that my walk through life has more unselfishness than selfishness. There are someone of us out there, that do things for the greater good, that will give up personal wealth, success, and material objects in order to help others. I personally refuse to become jaded because the world is full of bad or corrupt things. I know who I am, where I come from, and what I need to do in this life. I also believe that in order to change society it starts with one person at a time. If you can show the world that you have honor, respect and loyalty, then eventually someone will see what what you have is a good thing. They in turn will strive for that. Is that selfish in itself? Maybe, but open pure hearts do not cause intentional harm. jmo |
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...exist? Or am I being and idealistic fool who lives an utopic dream? Money, power, and possessions pass but a man's honor, word, and loyalty will always remain. However, does men have honor, word, and loyalty in the first place? What is a man without honor? As far as I understand, just a street DOG. Because even house's dogs are loyal to their masters. It all depends on people : some still have it and some never heard about it .  .
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All we TRULY have is our name!!!
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We need more truth in the world today. People who hear the truth are often not responsive to it. Most people abide by their own "truths". We all have less than "shining" moments in our lives but I have to believe that truth and honor outweigh selfishness.
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I've always held to the belief that man, or humanity in this case, well we are born basically good. It's the growing up part, what we see on a daily basis, and who we become in our later teen years, young adult and then adult lives that we really show who we are. People can be corrupted. A man can start out as an idealist in college, then he gets into the "real world" and he sees things that go against his own ideals. He witnesses someone stepping over another just for a higher position. He sees a married couple (and he went to there wedding and heard them say there vows about how much they love one another and be faithful to one another)and both of them are commiting adultery. He sees parents not being parents, breaking promises to kids because work is more important and I gotta make that car payment (You know, the expensive car that he/she didn't need in the first place but had to have so it appeared he/she was keeping up with the Jones'). In today's world, I don't think people are honorable anymore. I will be blunt here...we are all selfish pricks. I have honor, but I also know that I have fallen into being selfish too. I know others who have honor, but they fall too. It just happens. People have forgotten what is most important in life, and that is loving and caring for others. It's okay to want things, and for you to reward yourself. But to always think of yourself, and about what "YOU" want? That's just selfish. We need more truth in the world today. There is honor and then there is perfection. Show me one person who is perfect and I will join you in singing...there is no honor left in this world. To err is human...to fix it is honorable.
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Some people still have honor. Though not as many as I would like to see. In this rushed world we live in people are out to succeed too bad it is usually at someone else's expense. There is a rush to be part of the crowd and fit in instead of being able to face the pressure of dancing to the beat of your own drummer. My values mean everything to me. And I stand up for the things I believe in. I live my principles I don't just mouth the words.
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All we TRULY have is our name!!! sometimes i tend to think the same. |
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I've always held to the belief that man, or humanity in this case, well we are born basically good. It's the growing up part, what we see on a daily basis, and who we become in our later teen years, young adult and then adult lives that we really show who we are. People can be corrupted. A man can start out as an idealist in college, then he gets into the "real world" and he sees things that go against his own ideals. He witnesses someone stepping over another just for a higher position. He sees a married couple (and he went to there wedding and heard them say there vows about how much they love one another and be faithful to one another)and both of them are commiting adultery. He sees parents not being parents, breaking promises to kids because work is more important and I gotta make that ca payment (You know, the expensive car that he/she didn't need in the first place but had to have so it appeared he/she was keeping up with the Jones'). It's not the fall that counts, but the getting up... |
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Walker, I know there are honorable people still, there are several in my own family. I have to say I see many different levels of it and people tend to apply their honor where they feel it counts the most in their own mind.
I know men who, though they did not honor their wife at one time, honor their children to the point of such sacrifice it is shocking. I know women who have walked from their jobs for the sake of keeping their integrity after asked to do things they consider dishonorable. The later example being a prime sample of the fuzzy line that we now face when it comes to displaying honor though...since some might argue that leaving a job you depend upon to support your family is not very honorable at all. There are times in this world where it is a very hard thing to do, and we have to choose between one evil and another.  |
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Let me try to elaborate further into what I was saying, cause I feel that some of you have the wrong idea.
I know we all make mistakes. I know that by making these mistakes makes us all evolve, or grow. And there is honor in that. We are humans. We are fallable. I do realize and understand this. But what I was talking about are those people who just act more selfish. You cannot deny that we live in a "ME" generation. It is all about what I want...what I need. I remember growing up how my mom made sacrifices to be a stay at home mom. My dad wanted her to be, and I am thankful for it. In today's world, people will stick there kids in day care and ask for the workers there to raise there kids while they go off to work. I realize that both mother and father have to work. But at the same time, they don't want to be parents either. I find that selfish. This is what I meant when I said we are all "selfish pricks". Look, I never look at someone and say, "Hey, they will try and screw me over." I give people the benefit of the doubt. |
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