Topic: creation
yankeesnut's photo
Mon 06/23/08 06:14 PM
Whats the difference between western and non western creation stories???

baroosie's photo
Mon 06/23/08 06:27 PM
45 VIEWS- 0 RESPONSES.... I think you asked a toughy :tongue:

Caecius's photo
Mon 06/23/08 06:30 PM
Depends on what you mean by "Western" and "non-Western," really. Does Western include the many, many pagan religions that existed long before Judaism? What about the natives that live in what is now called "America?" The Judaism based religions, at any rate, are Mid-Eastern, not Western even if that is where they seem to have gained the most popularity.

yankeesnut's photo
Mon 06/23/08 06:34 PM
I have no idea... it's the question for my homework tonight and I have no idea...I'm not a religious person so I was looking for help! Haha

baroosie's photo
Mon 06/23/08 06:35 PM
My son and I were discussing the possibility of God (the sun)being created by the Big Bang..... and each universe having its own God...... Interesting?huh

Also our souls eventually reaching the Sun to refuel it and keep it burning.....noway (We've got to stop these morbid conversations and live our life while we can!):tongue:

Abracadabra's photo
Mon 06/23/08 06:38 PM

Whats the difference between western and non western creation stories???

Well, first off, "Western" actually refers to "Middle Eastern", or Mediterranean based religions.

Those religions view the creator as being a separate entity that is fully egotistical (i.e. it has knowledge of SELF). The gods of these religions and mythologies have wants, needs, and desires. They are extremely human-like and may sit on thrones in their heavens. They even weep when people are cast into the pits of hell. They are supposed to be all-powerful , however, if they are weeping because something is beyond their control, then their omnipotence comes into question.

I'm not sure what you mean by "Non-Western". I supposed you might mean "Eastern Mysticism"?

In Eastern Mysticism the basic idea is that life is a dream and we are the dreamers.

Row, row, row, you boat. bigsmile

Que Sara Sara. flowerforyou

Caecius's photo
Mon 06/23/08 06:54 PM
Ah, I see. More than likely, then, it means Judaism-based religions and not.

There are quite a few pagan religions that, instead of the man being first and then the woman being made second, typically from the man, have the woman first, which was used as symbology for the woman being the most important to life as they give life, even though few had a female deity as the supreme being.

Another difference is that the stars aren't typically created, but are actually the deity or the deities, obviously symbolizing them as superior as they were out of reach.

In most native American creation stories, the earth and later life, spawned from an animal, typically on that animals back. I wish I could correctly which native tribe it was, but they believed the world was all water, and there was a giant tortoise in the sea which no longer wanted to live in the sea; it wanted to breathe air and interact with the (I believe) seagulls. The back of the tortoise was called the earth as seagulls dropped the seeds of life on its back, and the seeds took root and grew into the plants and animals, ad nauseum.

Some of the religions that existed during the Classical time period (think Ancient Greece), the head of the local pantheon created the mortal world explicitly out of boredom with the other lesser deities, sometimes involving a bet, and were tempted and toyed with shortly after their creation for the pantheon's amusement.

The two non-Judaism that are the most similar to Judaism, creation, crucifixion, resurrection, et al, are the Ancient Egyptian, Ancient Greek, Babylonian, and Hinduism.

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Mon 06/23/08 07:02 PM


Whats the difference between western and non western creation stories???

Well, first off, "Western" actually refers to "Middle Eastern", or Mediterranean based religions.

Those religions view the creator as being a separate entity that is fully egotistical (i.e. it has knowledge of SELF). The gods of these religions and mythologies have wants, needs, and desires. They are extremely human-like and may sit on thrones in their heavens. They even weep when people are cast into the pits of hell. They are supposed to be all-powerful , however, if they are weeping because something is beyond their control, then their omnipotence comes into question.

I'm not sure what you mean by "Non-Western". I supposed you might mean "Eastern Mysticism"?

In Eastern Mysticism the basic idea is that life is a dream and we are the dreamers.

Row, row, row, you boat. bigsmile

Que Sara Sara. flowerforyou


Just like a king or queen ......I suppose !. Obviously with the supreme and ultimate powers .