Topic: Nice guys finish last
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Sun 06/22/08 11:57 AM

I guess the only ones who don't are just lucky. Women will say that it's what they want, but it never ends up that way. I'm jaded.

I've been the 'nice guy' all of my life. I always hear that I am a wonderful friend and would be a great father. The ladies run off with all the jerks and I get to hear the sob stories when when it does'nt work out.

I love thinking about changing my personality so that a woman can 'discover' or 'bring out' that emotional man hiding inside.

It's just great that I have to resort to acting insensitive so that the people that I'm interested in can take notice. It's not like somebody is going to say 'hey that's a really great guy, I'm going to stick with him'. Give me a break.

Everything in my life is going right for me except the dating area. I'm just not jerk enough. I've never been arogant, but if it's part of the dating ritual, I guess it's time to find my ego.


Quit worrying about being a nice guy. Posts like this aren't going to make people feel sorry for you.

FearandLoathing's photo
Sun 06/22/08 11:57 AM

Why is it that when guys don't have luck with ladies, the immediately assume it's because they are "too nice"?

Maybe they are "not funny" or "not attractive" or "not interesting", or "not confident".

They never consider that "niceness" is not the problem.

I was not aware how many guys thought that way until I joined this site. It's weird.


You don't love me cause I'm too nice!sad

hikerchick's photo
Sun 06/22/08 11:57 AM
And furthermore..any guy who would pretend to be "insensitive" to get women ..was never nice to begin with.

Nice people stay nice whether it gets them what they want or not.

hikerchick's photo
Sun 06/22/08 11:58 AM


Why is it that when guys don't have luck with ladies, the immediately assume it's because they are "too nice"?

Maybe they are "not funny" or "not attractive" or "not interesting", or "not confident".

They never consider that "niceness" is not the problem.

I was not aware how many guys thought that way until I joined this site. It's weird.


You don't love me cause I'm too nice!sad
I love you cuz you're bad to the bone!:heart:

shoesmonkey's photo
Sun 06/22/08 11:58 AM
I dumped a realy sweet, nice guy today. He couldn't stop talking about his female friend's and exe's. I had enough.

PATSFAN's photo
Sun 06/22/08 11:59 AM
:heart: Nice people:heart:

Monier's photo
Sun 06/22/08 11:59 AM


I guess the only ones who don't are just lucky. Women will say that it's what they want, but it never ends up that way. I'm jaded.

I've been the 'nice guy' all of my life. I always hear that I am a wonderful friend and would be a great father. The ladies run off with all the jerks and I get to hear the sob stories when when it does'nt work out.

I love thinking about changing my personality so that a woman can 'discover' or 'bring out' that emotional man hiding inside.

It's just great that I have to resort to acting insensitive so that the people that I'm interested in can take notice. It's not like somebody is going to say 'hey that's a really great guy, I'm going to stick with him'. Give me a break.

Everything in my life is going right for me except the dating area. I'm just not jerk enough. I've never been arogant, but if it's part of the dating ritual, I guess it's time to find my ego.


Quit worrying about being a nice guy. Posts like this aren't going to make people feel sorry for you.


I could care less about people feeling sorry for me.

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Sun 06/22/08 12:00 PM
I need a nice guy to counter balance all of my evil!!!devil :wink: devil

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Sun 06/22/08 12:01 PM

I dumped a realy sweet, nice guy today. He couldn't stop talking about his female friend's and exe's. I had enough.
:heart: flowerforyou drinker OK,,,I will NOT talk anymore about mine,,,,LETS talk about yours,wink,lol

OK,,,BAD idea,,,hows this,,
LETS make NEW memories together,wink,lol
AND talk about US together instead,lol,lol:wink: flowerforyou

SORRY,,,I figured ya need a hug and a smile and THIS was my BOTH,,,((((((hugs))))bigsmile

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Sun 06/22/08 12:03 PM
Edited by Citizen_Joe on Sun 06/22/08 12:05 PM

I guess the only ones who don't are just lucky. Women will say that it's what they want, but it never ends up that way. I'm jaded.

I've been the 'nice guy' all of my life. I always hear that I am a wonderful friend and would be a great father. The ladies run off with all the jerks and I get to hear the sob stories when when it does'nt work out.

I love thinking about changing my personality so that a woman can 'discover' or 'bring out' that emotional man hiding inside.

It's just great that I have to resort to acting insensitive so that the people that I'm interested in can take notice. It's not like somebody is going to say 'hey that's a really great guy, I'm going to stick with him'. Give me a break.

Everything in my life is going right for me except the dating area. I'm just not jerk enough. I've never been arogant, but if it's part of the dating ritual, I guess it's time to find my ego.


Wow! This place is good at censoring cat slang too!

On a positive note, at least you still have a p**** to pet. The kind of nice guy you're describing really is a resentful person with murder in their heart. I know this because I was that nice guy once, 20 years ago. Then I read this book, "The search for serenity" and it told me who I really was. Back then, I highlighted the parts I identified with and only recently looked at it. Thank god I've grown from there.

Citizen_Joe's photo
Sun 06/22/08 12:04 PM

I need a nice guy to counter balance all of my evil!!!devil :wink: devil

Keep your evil! You make it look good! laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

shoesmonkey's photo
Sun 06/22/08 12:04 PM


I dumped a realy sweet, nice guy today. He couldn't stop talking about his female friend's and exe's. I had enough.
:heart: flowerforyou drinker OK,,,I will NOT talk anymore about mine,,,,LETS talk about yours,wink,lol

OK,,,BAD idea,,,hows this,,
LETS make NEW memories together,wink,lol
AND talk about US together instead,lol,lol:wink: flowerforyou

SORRY,,,I figured ya need a hug and a smile and THIS was my BOTH,,,((((((hugs))))bigsmile
I'll take all you have to offer.

merlin2525's photo
Sun 06/22/08 12:05 PM

I need a nice guy to counter balance all of my evil!!!devil :wink: devil



WEEEEEEEEE DOGGGGGEEEEEEEEE(Jed Clampett)

If You were closerlove love love flowerforyou

Citizen_Joe's photo
Sun 06/22/08 12:06 PM



I guess the only ones who don't are just lucky. Women will say that it's what they want, but it never ends up that way. I'm jaded.

I've been the 'nice guy' all of my life. I always hear that I am a wonderful friend and would be a great father. The ladies run off with all the jerks and I get to hear the sob stories when when it does'nt work out.

I love thinking about changing my personality so that a woman can 'discover' or 'bring out' that emotional man hiding inside.

It's just great that I have to resort to acting insensitive so that the people that I'm interested in can take notice. It's not like somebody is going to say 'hey that's a really great guy, I'm going to stick with him'. Give me a break.

Everything in my life is going right for me except the dating area. I'm just not jerk enough. I've never been arogant, but if it's part of the dating ritual, I guess it's time to find my ego.


Quit worrying about being a nice guy. Posts like this aren't going to make people feel sorry for you.


I could care less about people feeling sorry for me.


Maybe you don't know yourself well enough then. That's how it's coming out, really.

Monier's photo
Sun 06/22/08 12:07 PM

And furthermore..any guy who would pretend to be "insensitive" to get women ..was never nice to begin with.

Nice people stay nice whether it gets them what they want or not.


OH I get it now! If you pretend to be somebody else, then that's not really who you are despite that fact that it is you acting that way. If one wants to change ie get stronger or make better decisions is'nt that called growing or maturing? Trying the same things over and over expecting different results is the definition of insanity. Should I not go for somebody because I think that they may not notice me? I think the issue is confidence, and it's funny that I have plenty of that in my life.

I guess that my definition of nice is that I don't try to sleep with everybody I meet. I have more important thing on my mind.

FearandLoathing's photo
Sun 06/22/08 12:09 PM


And furthermore..any guy who would pretend to be "insensitive" to get women ..was never nice to begin with.

Nice people stay nice whether it gets them what they want or not.


OH I get it now! If you pretend to be somebody else, then that's not really who you are despite that fact that it is you acting that way. If one wants to change ie get stronger or make better decisions is'nt that called growing or maturing? Trying the same things over and over expecting different results is the definition of insanity. Should I not go for somebody because I think that they may not notice me? I think the issue is confidence, and it's funny that I have plenty of that in my life.

I guess that my definition of nice is that I don't try to sleep with everybody I meet. I have more important thing on my mind.


Yea, you're gleaming of confidence in your initial post...

Monier's photo
Sun 06/22/08 12:10 PM

I dumped a realy sweet, nice guy today. He couldn't stop talking about his female friend's and exe's. I had enough.



Noted and I understand. Sharing what's on your mind all the time really does'nt work. Had he focused on you and worked out his past on his own would you have stayed?

Just my point. We have to hold back our feelings or it does'nt work.

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Sun 06/22/08 12:11 PM
Monier......I like your cat picture!!flowerforyou

Monier's photo
Sun 06/22/08 12:12 PM




I guess the only ones who don't are just lucky. Women will say that it's what they want, but it never ends up that way. I'm jaded.

I've been the 'nice guy' all of my life. I always hear that I am a wonderful friend and would be a great father. The ladies run off with all the jerks and I get to hear the sob stories when when it does'nt work out.

I love thinking about changing my personality so that a woman can 'discover' or 'bring out' that emotional man hiding inside.

It's just great that I have to resort to acting insensitive so that the people that I'm interested in can take notice. It's not like somebody is going to say 'hey that's a really great guy, I'm going to stick with him'. Give me a break.

Everything in my life is going right for me except the dating area. I'm just not jerk enough. I've never been arogant, but if it's part of the dating ritual, I guess it's time to find my ego.


Quit worrying about being a nice guy. Posts like this aren't going to make people feel sorry for you.


I could care less about people feeling sorry for me.


Maybe you don't know yourself well enough then. That's how it's coming out, really.


That makes sense. I'll keep the soul searching option open

hikerchick's photo
Sun 06/22/08 12:12 PM


I dumped a realy sweet, nice guy today. He couldn't stop talking about his female friend's and exe's. I had enough.



Noted and I understand. Sharing what's on your mind all the time really does'nt work. Had he focused on you and worked out his past on his own would you have stayed?

Just my point. We have to hold back our feelings or it does'nt work.
NO. You have to be aware of your partner and stop thinking of yourself all the time.