Topic: do you punish your kids if
franshade's photo
Thu 06/19/08 08:31 AM


somebody has to do something the "dumb" kids are driving the schools down


maybe it is the dumb teachers



personally I think it's the parents that fail to see they too have an active part in their child's education. many sit back and only rely on the school system. become involved in your childrens education. jmo

dont think there are dumb teachers per se, but teachers that are overwhelmed, over worked, underpaid, etc.



adj4u's photo
Thu 06/19/08 08:38 AM



somebody has to do something the "dumb" kids are driving the schools down


maybe it is the dumb teachers



personally I think it's the parents that fail to see they too have an active part in their child's education. many sit back and only rely on the school system. become involved in your childrens education. jmo

dont think there are dumb teachers per se, but teachers that are overwhelmed, over worked, underpaid, etc.





i can agree with the lack of parent involvement but not with the under paid part and yes there are dumb teachers i met a few of them and yes the teachers are overworked and many are overwhelmed but what causes the overwhelming (think about it)

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8607's photo
Thu 06/19/08 08:47 AM
I totally agree too that parents need to get more involved, I see it too much around where I live and I feel so sorry for the children because the parents are just sorry.

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Thu 06/19/08 08:52 AM

I teach him and work with him now on ABC's and all kinds of stuff, especially with words. He's a very smart boy though and VERY observant.


good for you

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Thu 06/19/08 09:01 AM
I have 3 children and they all have/had different study habits.
My oldest wouldnt even pick up a book, the night before a test and he would get straight A's ,but my other children would study half the night and get B's or C's.

As long as they are trying,I am going to praise them for whatever grade they get.

Winx's photo
Thu 06/19/08 09:08 AM


they get a grade of a c on the report card

my parents never did when i was in school but now i hear that parents actually ground there kid if there not getting A's and B's
and the worst ive heard is the kid has to get straight A's or there grounded

honestly i think thats wrong


Studies have shown that children will, on average, meet their parents expectations. If you expect your child to make C's, then your child will make C's. Parents that expect straight A's have kids who will usually make straight A's. Expecting more from your children isn't child abuse, it's preparing them for a world where C students usually end up in dead end jobs.


The children with A's probably had parents that worked with them.

I would never pressure my child to get straight A's. That is terrible pressure to be perfect.

I do have a straight A child that suddenly was getting a C in Math. I just asked the teacher for more hand-outs. My child got a B.

I am lucky that my child does well. But...I would never pressure or stress my child out to achieve that.

I don't want my child to be "perfect". I want my child to try their best and also be a happy child that participates in sports and other activities outside of school.

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Thu 06/19/08 09:23 AM

i can agree with the lack of parent involvement but not with the under paid part and yes there are dumb teachers i met a few of them and yes the teachers are overworked and many are overwhelmed but what causes the overwhelming (think about it)

flowerforyou


I do believe teachers are not paid their worth, while there are some that give the rest a bad rep, I have had the pleasure in meeting and befriending plenty of teachers and do for a fact know that some/most have to go into their own pockets for supplies and do so unselfishly.

overwhelmed due to class sizes, fear, unruly children, aggressive parents, etc...

flowerforyou

adj4u's photo
Thu 06/19/08 10:31 AM


i can agree with the lack of parent involvement but not with the under paid part and yes there are dumb teachers i met a few of them and yes the teachers are overworked and many are overwhelmed but what causes the overwhelming (think about it)

flowerforyou


I do believe teachers are not paid their worth, while there are some that give the rest a bad rep, I have had the pleasure in meeting and befriending plenty of teachers and do for a fact know that some/most have to go into their own pockets for supplies and do so unselfishly.

overwhelmed due to class sizes, fear, unruly children, aggressive parents, etc...

flowerforyou


classes i was in 40 years ago were always over 30 per class

and i never said there were not good teachers out there i have met some of those as well

but the pay issue i can not agree with they are only workin 2/4 of the year thus they make more than most law enforcement and ambulance workers

maybe they deserve more but if they are in it for the money then do you really want them teaching your kid

just a thought

but hey

what do i know

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Thu 06/19/08 11:13 AM


somebody has to do something the "dumb" kids are driving the schools down


maybe it is the dumb teachers


drinker drinker Remember kids need our love and attention so much.Once I met a little INDIAN boy suffering from appendicits .According to his parents( who I am sure loves him so much)he is an out n out brat, poor in all subjects except drawings and multiplication. .And after a successful surgery during the follow ups he was diagnosed as a case of ASD.The poor guy could not even express that he had been having difficulties in perceiving printed letters and was getting grounded at the end of each term.He was only 8 years old.I heard they even made a movie about this kid in INDIA.

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Thu 06/19/08 11:14 AM
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franshade's photo
Thu 06/19/08 11:43 AM



i can agree with the lack of parent involvement but not with the under paid part and yes there are dumb teachers i met a few of them and yes the teachers are overworked and many are overwhelmed but what causes the overwhelming (think about it)

flowerforyou


I do believe teachers are not paid their worth, while there are some that give the rest a bad rep, I have had the pleasure in meeting and befriending plenty of teachers and do for a fact know that some/most have to go into their own pockets for supplies and do so unselfishly.

overwhelmed due to class sizes, fear, unruly children, aggressive parents, etc...

flowerforyou


classes i was in 40 years ago were always over 30 per class

and i never said there were not good teachers out there i have met some of those as well

but the pay issue i can not agree with they are only workin 2/4 of the year thus they make more than most law enforcement and ambulance workers

maybe they deserve more but if they are in it for the money then do you really want them teaching your kid

just a thought

but hey

what do i know


you know that I know that you know that I know just how much you really do know :heart: :heart:




adj4u's photo
Thu 06/19/08 01:30 PM
Edited by adj4u on Thu 06/19/08 01:33 PM
no no no

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just noticed typo in other post

2/4 was supposed to be 3/4

sorry bout that

missed it by this ll much

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kayliz88's photo
Thu 06/19/08 05:19 PM

they get a grade of a c on the report card

my parents never did when i was in school but now i hear that parents actually ground there kid if there not getting A's and B's
and the worst ive heard is the kid has to get straight A's or there grounded

honestly i think thats wrong



I think as long as the kid is doing their best they should not be punished. If they do get lower than a "C" though, they are either not trying and should be punished or they need a little extra help and should get a tutor or something.

Lordling's photo
Thu 06/19/08 05:32 PM



somebody has to do something the "dumb" kids are driving the schools down


maybe it is the dumb teachers



personally I think it's the parents that fail to see they too have an active part in their child's education. many sit back and only rely on the school system. become involved in your childrens education. jmo

dont think there are dumb teachers per se, but teachers that are overwhelmed, over worked, underpaid, etc.





When my kids were in grade-school, I often amused myself by correcting the teacher handouts and sending them back to them all marked up in red. The spelling and syntax were almost always pathetic - and these people were supposed to be teaching my children the fundamentals of the English language? Puh-leeeeze!
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Fri 06/20/08 03:29 AM
Edited by adj4u on Fri 06/20/08 03:31 AM
while channel surfing last night a first grade teacher missed a third grade grammer question on smarter than a fifth grader

good thing she does not teach 3rd grade

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huh huh huh

and yes i got it correct -- sometimes i even surprise myself

buffry's photo
Fri 06/20/08 04:54 AM
I was grounded practically all from the age of 12 to 18 for my grades in school. This did not encourage me to excel, but frustrated me and caused me to rebel even worse. I think that a parents involvement in academics is what will help. It's easy to ground and punish. It takes a bit more effort to get the root of the problem and fix it. Talk to your kids, there is usually an underlying issue involved with grades dropping like that. Or that they put their best effort forth and just happen to be average in that particular subject.

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Fri 06/20/08 05:04 AM
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while channel surfing last night a first grade teacher missed a third grade grammer question on smarter than a fifth grader

good thing she does not teach 3rd grade

hhhhmmmmmmmm

huh huh huh

and yes i got it correct -- sometimes i even surprise myself


that just proves to rest of us just how special you are flowerforyou smooched flowerforyou

adj4u's photo
Fri 06/20/08 05:08 AM

I was grounded practically all from the age of 12 to 18 for my grades in school. This did not encourage me to excel, but frustrated me and caused me to rebel even worse. I think that a parents involvement in academics is what will help. It's easy to ground and punish. It takes a bit more effort to get the root of the problem and fix it. Talk to your kids, there is usually an underlying issue involved with grades dropping like that. Or that they put their best effort forth and just happen to be average in that particular subject.


that is true put it still does not give the judge the right to circumvent the fathers authority

my kids tried to pull a stunt similar to this and i told them to get one change of clothes put it in a paper bag and when they get here you will be leaving with them

never had another problem with that threat ever again

but i did get involved in their academics as well

the child is the child and the parent is the parent if the parent is not hurting the child then their power should not be overturned

if the judge would have sentenced the child to say 30 hours of community service as an alturnative to being grounded then i could understand it after all it was a school trip


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Fri 06/20/08 05:19 AM
I rewarded her for good grades; never punished for bad ones. I helped with homework in terms of helping her to understand her work; always made her do her own projects - she was the only 5th grader whose projects did not look professional - always had communication with all of her teachers.

She was an honor student right up until the time she stopped going to school, 6 weeks before her high school graduation.

You can't control everything.

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Fri 06/20/08 05:24 AM

:heart: flowerforyou :heart:

while channel surfing last night a first grade teacher missed a third grade grammer question on smarter than a fifth grader

good thing she does not teach 3rd grade

hhhhmmmmmmmm

huh huh huh

and yes i got it correct -- sometimes i even surprise myself


that just proves to rest of us just how special you are flowerforyou smooched flowerforyou


blushing blushing blushing

everyone is special in some way

thank you

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