Topic: The so-called pantheists...
Lily0923's photo
Sat 06/21/08 12:12 AM


What if you believe in monotheistic polyduelism?


hummmm... what's a polyduelism? :tongue: huh


The simple definition would be One God with many faces.

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Sat 06/21/08 12:17 AM



What if you believe in monotheistic polyduelism?


hummmm... what's a polyduelism? :tongue: huh


The simple definition would be One God with many faces.


I love that idea. Many Many Many faces. bigsmile

Lily0923's photo
Sat 06/21/08 12:23 AM

I love that idea. Many Many Many faces. bigsmile


Like enough for all the pantheons, different paths to the same place...:wink:

creativesoul's photo
Sat 06/21/08 01:04 AM
http://users.erols.com/nbeach/spinoza.html

axioms, definitions, correlations, proofs...etc.

Lemme know what you would like to focus on...

Must begin with the first, of course!


Abracadabra's photo
Sat 06/21/08 07:26 AM
What if you believe in monotheistic polyduelism?


That is the general idea of pantheism is it not? All is god?

That would mean that every living thing is a 'face' of god.

Lily0923's photo
Sat 06/21/08 09:36 AM

What if you believe in monotheistic polyduelism?


That is the general idea of pantheism is it not? All is god?

That would mean that every living thing is a 'face' of god.


No, only the Gods are the face of the Gods.

scttrbrain's photo
Sat 06/21/08 09:38 AM


What if you believe in monotheistic polyduelism?


That is the general idea of pantheism is it not? All is god?

That would mean that every living thing is a 'face' of god.


No, only the Gods are the face of the Gods.


Only the god(s) are the face of god(s)??

Kat

Lily0923's photo
Sat 06/21/08 09:44 AM



What if you believe in monotheistic polyduelism?


That is the general idea of pantheism is it not? All is god?

That would mean that every living thing is a 'face' of god.


No, only the Gods are the face of the Gods.


Only the god(s) are the face of god(s)??

Kat


Yes.

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Sat 06/21/08 09:44 AM


What if you believe in monotheistic polyduelism?


That is the general idea of pantheism is it not? All is god?

That would mean that every living thing is a 'face' of god.


No, only the Gods are the face of the Gods.



The gods are the creators. There are many. I think all creatures that aspire to create are potential gods. I think humans are gods in training and that they will ascend to higher levels of creative existence and carry on with their creations.

drinker

Lily0923's photo
Sat 06/21/08 09:48 AM



What if you believe in monotheistic polyduelism?


That is the general idea of pantheism is it not? All is god?

That would mean that every living thing is a 'face' of god.


No, only the Gods are the face of the Gods.



The gods are the creators. There are many. I think all creatures that aspire to create are potential gods. I think humans are gods in training and that they will ascend to higher levels of creative existence and carry on with their creations.

drinker


I believe that to an extent, however a human will never become a God, only an angel sort of thing. Gods are eternal in that they don't change form, Venus is Venus and has never had a form but to be Venus. Humans are not in that they change forms the more they progress in their path.

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Sat 06/21/08 09:57 AM




What if you believe in monotheistic polyduelism?


That is the general idea of pantheism is it not? All is god?

That would mean that every living thing is a 'face' of god.


No, only the Gods are the face of the Gods.



The gods are the creators. There are many. I think all creatures that aspire to create are potential gods. I think humans are gods in training and that they will ascend to higher levels of creative existence and carry on with their creations.

drinker


I believe that to an extent, however a human will never become a God, only an angel sort of thing. Gods are eternal in that they don't change form, Venus is Venus and has never had a form but to be Venus. Humans are not in that they change forms the more they progress in their path.


This is where I disagree. Gods have the power and will to change form when they ascend to higher consciousness levels.


JB

Lily0923's photo
Sat 06/21/08 10:00 AM

This is where I disagree. Gods have the power and will to change form when they ascend to higher consciousness levels.


JB


Although I could be on board with that, there is something in me that disagrees... But only for me, Even if Venus becomes a cat, she is still Venus, no matter what form she is..

But your therory is interesting.

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Sat 06/21/08 10:03 AM
I don't like to even use the term "god" because there are so many misconceptions attached to it which separate one being (a god) from another (a human or angel). Then there is always the desire to worship something greater than oneself and the feeling that one is under the care of another greater being. While this may be true, I don't see that these beings are so separate from each other that they are not all connected to the whole and are parts of the same consciousness.

That is simply my opinion.

Jeannie

Lily0923's photo
Sat 06/21/08 10:11 AM

I don't like to even use the term "god" because there are so many misconceptions attached to it which separate one being (a god) from another (a human or angel). Then there is always the desire to worship something greater than oneself and the feeling that one is under the care of another greater being. While this may be true, I don't see that these beings are so separate from each other that they are not all connected to the whole and are parts of the same consciousness.

That is simply my opinion.

Jeannie


No, I agree somewhat with that, I kind of look at it this way, they are there to over see things, not to impead on them. You can pray and pray for a new job, but if you don't apply for one they kick you in the azz. Kinda like good parents do, they don't do your homework, but if you don't do it, they lay the hammer down.

I'm a huge believer in Chaos therory, nothing happens without a reason. Only in pure Chaos is there order, and only in order is there Chaos.

no photo
Sat 06/21/08 10:19 AM
John Lennon - Imagine

Imagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

Have a great day folks:smile:

tribo's photo
Sat 06/21/08 10:25 AM

John Lennon - Imagine

Imagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

Have a great day folks:smile:


hahaha - yea you are a dreamer!! - but it's a nice dream.drinker to bad when we awaken the current reality starts to set in all over again:smile:

ArtGurl's photo
Sat 06/21/08 10:31 AM


John Lennon - Imagine

Imagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

Have a great day folks:smile:


hahaha - yea you are a dreamer!! - but it's a nice dream.drinker to bad when we awaken the current reality starts to set in all over again:smile:


perhaps that IS the awakened ... and the rest of this is just an odd dream... :wink:

ArtGurl's photo
Sat 06/21/08 10:34 AM
Keep dreaming Smiles ...



...from As A Man Thinketh by James Allen

"The dreamers are the saviours of the
world. As the visible world is sustained
by the invisible, so men, through all
their trials and sins and sordid
vocations, are nourished by the beautiful
visions of their solitary dreamers.
Humanity cannot forget its dreamers; it
cannot let their ideals fade and die;
it lives in them; it knows them as the
realities which it shall one day see and
know.
Composer, sculptor, painter, poet,
prophet, sage, these are the makers of
the after-world, the architects of heaven.
The world is beautiful because they
have lived; without them, laboring
humanity would perish."


<-------Contemplative Dreamer

tribo's photo
Sat 06/21/08 10:50 AM
laugh a nice thought AG, thnx for thatflowerforyou

ArtGurl's photo
Sat 06/21/08 11:40 AM

laugh a nice thought AG, thnx for thatflowerforyou



bigsmile flowerforyou