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Topic: Convicted Sex Offenders...
MsCarmen's photo
Mon 06/16/08 06:26 PM
yes you have the right to open your eyes and ears and pay attention in the first place when the person first gets sentenced. That is your notice form society that this person is there. It is now your responsibility to retain this information that you were given publicly for the future; especially considering you know he WILL be released some day.

And I am sorry but anything that removes the rights and liberties of another human being, once they are no longer in the penal system is bullchit. You, nor I, nor anyone else has the right to condemn a man to a life of ridicule, shame and discrimination. Only the law has that right. Which, as I said the law should have a registry of all offenders, because some of them WILL repeat yes (and as far as I am concerned second offense should mean automatic removal from society for life). But the majority of offenders from what I have read over the years and seen on the news do NOT repeat. It is just like any other situation; one bad apple ruins it for the rest. In other words, you have 5000 offenders, and ten of them repeat the crime after they are released. All of a sudden the other 4990 offenders are automatic repeat offenders, even though they have not done so, and probably wont do so. And people wonder why so many offenders do NT register after they have gotten out; or they register, and then move away without changing their information. It's becasue they want to simply live their life the way they have a right to do so, without the harrasment and persecution they otherwise face.


Daniel, you can take that **** and try selling it to someone else, cause I ain't buying it.

"nor anyone else has the right to condemn a man to a life of ridicule, shame and discrimination" Oh, but it's okay for that sex offender to take the innocence of a child and make them suffer emotionally, put them through a life of shame and ridicule, not to mention mess their heads up for life!

And the point you made about the public gets their notice when the person gets sentenced. Well what about when the person is released from jail and moves to another state? Those people in the other state have no knowledge about this man's past so what do they do? Pray that the schools or police department or churches (or the places that you say should only have access)would notify them? And what happens if the child molester attacks your child because you didn't have public knowledge of what this person did and these other places were irresponsible in notifying you and all other parents? Are you going to sue them for negligence? And what good would that do your child? Wouldn't it be so much better knowing that you can protect your children yourself and not have to worry about depending on others to inform you.

I have no sympathy for sex offenders having to register and having everyone know their business. If you live in a state where the crime will label you as a sex offender, it's pretty simple, either don't do the crime, or move. Cause as far as I am concerned, once a sex offender, always a sex offender and they all should be executed by the most horrific means of torture possible.explode

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Mon 06/16/08 06:30 PM


RamBill

I have a friend who was the Best Grade School princible you would ever run across.

The news showed him having his head shaved if the students would have a certain grade point average at the end of the year.

They had it on the main news around here what a great princible he was..

2 years later..

A 4th grade girl was dared to say he touched her.

he was immediately relived of his job.. Was on the news constantly..

3 months later the girl finally admitted she did it as a dare she did not want her friends mad at her if she told the truth.

his career though was ruined. They settled out of court because the school district said 2 many parents said they would pull thier kids from that school if he went back..

never mind he did nothing wrong.

just be accussed and our news media has made u guilty.

I do not even know where he lives now.

They said he probally could never be allowed to work with children again.

being innoccent meant absolutely nothing..

how sadsad frown


But what if it were true?

What about those that say they were raped and the guy gets away with it when he actually did? noway

what about the guy whose life and good name have been ruined by false accusations? once accused of this crime it takes on a life of its own and is almost impossible to get past, even years later there will always be someone who remembers all the headlines, ect.

Milesoftheusa's photo
Mon 06/16/08 06:32 PM
here is another example of what goes on.

the city of New Florence Mo many years ago decided to extend thier city limits..

This is a town of less than 500 people.

Now when they do this anexing they are suppose to also give basic services.. sewer water ect.

Why did they want to extend thier city limits a mile +?

The power company i used to work for had built a 50 to 75 million dollar substation.

They extended the city limit sign to just pass the substation. Saying we plan to in the near future bring out water and sewer. 20 years have gone by and still nothing.

The company I worked for knew exactly what was happening but let it happen because it would Big Business not caring about small towns.

it was not worth it.

They can do the same to u and still provide you with nothing as many cities in Mo. do.

But try not paying your property taxes after they take you in.

another,, we The PEOPLE OUT THE DOOR

LouLou2's photo
Mon 06/16/08 06:38 PM

For those who just might be interested in the Govt. own studies on the resdism rate of release sex offenders..



It is a whopping 3.2% just barely above whether a murder will murder again..


I like murderes living beside me and not knowing..

Don't u?



I believe, too, that the recidivism rate indicates the percentage of those released offenders who are either re-arrested or convicted of a subsequent sex offence. i don't think that it indicates the percentage of those people who commit subsequent sex crimes after incarceration.

The possibility of a false allegation and the potential for it to lead to conviction and/or imprisonment is disturbing under any circumstance and regarding any crime. But does making the punishment less restrictive really solve that problem? Our country's laws & procedures for arrest, trial & conviction were based on allowing that some criminals may escape punishment, so that the innocent are less likely to be convicted...but when talking about sexual assault (and I'm thinking primarily of those against children) it becomes more difficult for me to accept that allowance. It's a very difficult situation, and I'm not sure what is right in this case.

Jim519's photo
Mon 06/16/08 07:01 PM



RamBill

I have a friend who was the Best Grade School princible you would ever run across.

The news showed him having his head shaved if the students would have a certain grade point average at the end of the year.

They had it on the main news around here what a great princible he was..

2 years later..

A 4th grade girl was dared to say he touched her.

he was immediately relived of his job.. Was on the news constantly..

3 months later the girl finally admitted she did it as a dare she did not want her friends mad at her if she told the truth.

his career though was ruined. They settled out of court because the school district said 2 many parents said they would pull thier kids from that school if he went back..

never mind he did nothing wrong.

just be accussed and our news media has made u guilty.

I do not even know where he lives now.

They said he probally could never be allowed to work with children again.

being innoccent meant absolutely nothing..

how sadsad frown


But what if it were true?

What about those that say they were raped and the guy gets away with it when he actually did? noway

what about the guy whose life and good name have been ruined by false accusations? once accused of this crime it takes on a life of its own and is almost impossible to get past, even years later there will always be someone who remembers all the headlines, ect.



I dont have facts to support it of course...But I would be willing to wager that the majority of who do commit to those that are innocent are much higher

Fanta46's photo
Mon 06/16/08 07:03 PM
I would agree!
Probably, possibly,
999,999 - 1drinker

dicimus01's photo
Mon 06/16/08 07:08 PM
In my opinion pedifiles, when covicted should be sent to maximum security prisons, into the open population, with no parol. They should be chemicaly castrated.
When they have served their time and are due for release they should have a frontal lobotomy, and an electronic tracking device installed.
If after release they are shown to be within 5000 feet of any school, an unresendable shoot to kill order should be issued.

Milesoftheusa's photo
Mon 06/16/08 07:13 PM
The 2 different rates or of your questioning i see as the same.

What my main concern is with these laws is most states do not differeintate a child rapist to a young couple have sex. They both must register and suffer. A child rapist pure and simple should be locked away for life. If we would do that the laws for the rest would be much easier to handle.

The Media is alot to blame for this epidemic of hate.

For example. When the Hollaway girl disappeared in Aruba. For 3 months we saw on tv all kinds of things from the media. Now she was from a well to do family i am sure.

They did not know what happened but since thier was a potential for a sex crime the media went wild.

Now lets look at recently in OK.

2 young girls are murdered but no sign of anything sexual.

I do not see anything already on the written news and i have not seen in the last few days since they put out a picture of concern.

now they say it is someone local and this is a small town.

Yet as a society the Media does not see the $ signs so the story is dying.

Now can you imagine living in a small town and being told someone local did this. How scared u would be?

But this does not matter to govt. or the media. It is what sells to the public whether it be advertising dollars or the Govt. perception as to how we see them doing what we want.

I have watched the news conferences. Not once have I seen the murderer refered to as a MONSTER,

Now if he would of had some kind of sexual contact and they were released alive.

the NATIONAL GUARD WOULD BE SENT OUT AND ROADS WOULD BE CLOSED FOR 50 MILES.



do u see the irony in what i am trying to convey?

MsCarmen's photo
Mon 06/16/08 07:17 PM

In my opinion pedophiles, when convicted should be sent to maximum security prisons, into the open population, with no parole. They should be chemically castrated.
When they have served their time and are due for release they should have a frontal lobotomy, and an electronic tracking device installed.
If after release they are shown to be within 5000 feet of any school, an rescindable shoot to kill order should be issued.


My question is, why do they have to be released? Why do they get the opportunity to start over after only serving a short term. Why shouldn't they get a life sentence when what they have done is taken the innocence of a child and put an emotional hurt on them that will last them there entire life. If the child has to suffer life-long, then so should the pedophiles.

dicimus01's photo
Mon 06/16/08 07:22 PM
Edited by dicimus01 on Mon 06/16/08 07:23 PM


In my opinion pedophiles, when convicted should be sent to maximum security prisons, into the open population, with no parole. They should be chemically castrated.
When they have served their time and are due for release they should have a frontal lobotomy, and an electronic tracking device installed.
If after release they are shown to be within 5000 feet of any school, an rescindable shoot to kill order should be issued.


My question is, why do they have to be released? Why do they get the opportunity to start over after only serving a short term. Why shouldn't they get a life sentence when what they have done is taken the innocence of a child and put an emotional hurt on them that will last them there entire life. If the child has to suffer life-long, then so should the pedophiles.


Then I wouldn't get a chance to get my hands on Him.

Fanta46's photo
Mon 06/16/08 07:58 PM

In addition to the guns case, the justices are still weighing whether Exxon Mobil Corp. has to pay a $2.5 billion punitive damages judgment over the Exxon Valdez disaster in Alaska in 1989 and whether people convicted of raping children may be executed.

Also awaiting a decision is the case of a man sentenced to death in Louisiana after he was convicted of raping his 8-year-old stepdaughter. Only five states — Montana, Oklahoma, South Carolina and Texas are the others — allow executions for the rape of a child, but only Louisiana has imposed death sentences on people convicted of the crime.

The Supreme Court banned executions for rape in 1977 in a case in which the victim was an adult woman. The last executions for rape or any other crime that did not include a victim's death were in 1964.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080615/ap_on_go_su_co/scotus_what_s_left




5 States have a law to execute child molesters!!

Milesoftheusa's photo
Mon 06/16/08 09:33 PM
We send and have been sending mixed signals in this country for years..

We should not be suprised this stuff has happened.

We tell kids sex can be dangerous then have girls use a cucumber in class to learn how to put on a rubber on a penis in case the guy forgets to bring one.

We tell guys women r to be respected.

then we tell women wearing a string up your butt and having nipple covers is sexy.

We say porn is bad.

Then every store or every convience store where we get gas porn can be seen behind the counter to buy.

We hear jokes and stuff like say on Jay Leno about internet porn all the time.

Why is any porn allowed.. It is sick in itself.

We now as a society do not think anything of sexual scenes where a kids imagination can go wild on prime time tv and this is good programming.

Word that our grandparents would of washed out and many of u would do also wash out a kids mouth for the words that are said on tv.

Our children have been programmed to become spies against the parents.. They may be being abused and need to tell the state if they even think they are.

parents in turn become a little paranoid of how they disciple thier children because they may go to jail or loose thier careers.


The family unit is being torn apart.

marraige has been reduced to a little bit more than going steady only because the state does want that piece of paper so that can have some control over your family.


The govt. we are told monitors billions of internet chats and sites everyday.

yet they can not stop child pornography from even going through the internet.

Now a parent can buy a program that will stop this kind of stuff from coming on thier computer.

Yet the govt. can not do the same thing with servers and isp's that send this stuff to whoever.

Just Block it. Go to your local library and see the program they have.

Yet we are helpless to stop this stuff because it comes from overseas.

Huh do you have a overseas isp?

They do not want to stop it they just want to imprison the population and bring on a false sence of fear to the people..


hate is a good weapon..


Research HITLERS plan he started writing in 1929 and that he carried out.

You may go away in disbelief..

Go ahead believe what ever the media says. they are our sence of being.. they tell us what is right from wrong.


I can see why we want top technology in our homes..


HDTV is very nice and draws us to our designed destruction very well..

oh well I am crazy RIGHT!!!!....Miles

daniel48706's photo
Mon 06/16/08 10:50 PM

In my opinion pedifiles, when covicted should be sent to maximum security prisons, into the open population, with no parol. They should be chemicaly castrated.
When they have served their time and are due for release they should have a frontal lobotomy, and an electronic tracking device installed.
If after release they are shown to be within 5000 feet of any school, an unresendable shoot to kill order should be issued.


Good Morning Stalin. I thought you died so many decades ago? sorry that history has been so lax in this area.

SergeyDolin's photo
Thu 06/19/08 08:05 PM
Hm. It is very (very-very) strange to hear from Americans about extra punishment after the previous punishment enforced by court. Don't you trust the jury make right solution?


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