Topic: Take a look at this
kitcat87's photo
Wed 06/11/08 07:20 AM


*note* this reply is a rant and is not to offend anyone

OMG that is it i am so sick and tired of our government bending over backwards to be politically correct...look i don't care if your atheist, jewish, muslim, or whatever but AMERICA was founded on CHRISTIANITY so freaking deal with it...some of us remember where our principles came from and what this country was founded on...if you want to come to this country for a better life please do...the more the merrier but don't freaking come over here bash our country bash OUR culture, our language (which congress should have just freaking declared all of those years ago) and then use our government...when you come over here you became AMERICAN and guess what the majority of us believe in GOD so if that word on our money offends you get the he*L out!!!!


Actually, our government was not based on Christianity, nor in the idea of Christianity. It was based on a humanistic view, which incorporates spirituality but does not encompass any one religion. You forget, one of the basic reasons people came here was freedom to worship and believe as they saw fit and not to have religion, any religion, shoved down their throat. Our forefathers, most of them, happened to be Christian, but they did not design our government based on Christian belief, but on humanity.


no i didn't forget that but they came to practice a certain form of christianity and i'm not saying make the whole country that way i don't want to...too conformist...people should come over here and practice whatever they want, wicca, atheism, etc i don't care but it is reaching the point of patheticness when christians have to think twice about where can they prey and etc

Joaverage's photo
Wed 06/11/08 07:28 AM

*note* this reply is a rant and is not to offend anyone

OMG that is it i am so sick and tired of our government bending over backwards to be politically correct...look i don't care if your atheist, jewish, muslim, or whatever but AMERICA was founded on CHRISTIANITY so freaking deal with it...some of us remember where our principles came from and what this country was founded on...if you want to come to this country for a better life please do...the more the merrier but don't freaking come over here bash our country bash OUR culture, our language (which congress should have just freaking declared all of those years ago) and then use our government...when you come over here you became AMERICAN and guess what the majority of us believe in GOD so if that word on our money offends you get the he*L out!!!!


Way to go kitcat!!! Call em like you see em!!! If only
more people would stand up for America, beside our soldiers
we wouldn't have all of this crap going on!!!! bigsmile
bigsmile bigsmile bigsmile Kudo's bigsmile bigsmile

Peekinin's photo
Wed 06/11/08 07:28 AM
Edited by Peekinin on Wed 06/11/08 07:28 AM



*note* this reply is a rant and is not to offend anyone

OMG that is it i am so sick and tired of our government bending over backwards to be politically correct...look i don't care if your atheist, jewish, muslim, or whatever but AMERICA was founded on CHRISTIANITY so freaking deal with it...some of us remember where our principles came from and what this country was founded on...if you want to come to this country for a better life please do...the more the merrier but don't freaking come over here bash our country bash OUR culture, our language (which congress should have just freaking declared all of those years ago) and then use our government...when you come over here you became AMERICAN and guess what the majority of us believe in GOD so if that word on our money offends you get the he*L out!!!!


Actually, our government was not based on Christianity, nor in the idea of Christianity. It was based on a humanistic view, which incorporates spirituality but does not encompass any one religion. You forget, one of the basic reasons people came here was freedom to worship and believe as they saw fit and not to have religion, any religion, shoved down their throat. Our forefathers, most of them, happened to be Christian, but they did not design our government based on Christian belief, but on humanity.


no i didn't forget that but they came to practice a certain form of christianity and i'm not saying make the whole country that way i don't want to...too conformist...people should come over here and practice whatever they want, wicca, atheism, etc i don't care but it is reaching the point of patheticness when christians have to think twice about where can they prey and etc


Some of us conformed a long time ago when it came to how/where we practiced our beliefs. After all,,noone wants to see a scalp hanging the Capital.:wink: bigsmile

somehow, when its force fed, its harder to accept.:wink:

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Wed 06/11/08 07:28 AM



*note* this reply is a rant and is not to offend anyone

OMG that is it i am so sick and tired of our government bending over backwards to be politically correct...look i don't care if your atheist, jewish, muslim, or whatever but AMERICA was founded on CHRISTIANITY so freaking deal with it...some of us remember where our principles came from and what this country was founded on...if you want to come to this country for a better life please do...the more the merrier but don't freaking come over here bash our country bash OUR culture, our language (which congress should have just freaking declared all of those years ago) and then use our government...when you come over here you became AMERICAN and guess what the majority of us believe in GOD so if that word on our money offends you get the he*L out!!!!


Actually, our government was not based on Christianity, nor in the idea of Christianity. It was based on a humanistic view, which incorporates spirituality but does not encompass any one religion. You forget, one of the basic reasons people came here was freedom to worship and believe as they saw fit and not to have religion, any religion, shoved down their throat. Our forefathers, most of them, happened to be Christian, but they did not design our government based on Christian belief, but on humanity.


no i didn't forget that but they came to practice a certain form of christianity and i'm not saying make the whole country that way i don't want to...too conformist...people should come over here and practice whatever they want, wicca, atheism, etc i don't care but it is reaching the point of patheticness when christians have to think twice about where can they prey and etc


I'm sorry, that may have come across in a way I didn't intend, and no offense was intended. Just explaining that our country wasn't founded on Christianity but on freedom. And separation of church and state was another basic principle of our government. There's good reason for that, all you have to do to see why this is necessary is to look at the Middle East.

Heck, look what it does here laugh laugh

But, I meant everything I said with all due respect to your opinions and beliefs flowerforyou

Scinn's photo
Wed 06/11/08 07:30 AM

Dollar coins are cool but not really useful in the day to day....

I saw the other day a five dolar bill that had the five printed in purple? Well, all I can say is that with my bank card, I rarely have cash or use for it. I miss out on the times, if not for this thread I'd never have known about the coin.

I think I might mistake a dollar coin for a bridge token, based on color. :wink:

MBD..... it is so nice to know I'm not the only persnickety poster around!laugh [poster that wanted your thread moved..... I had a day like that myself!}


I didn't say I wanted it moved. >.< It was just an observation, I never once said it *should* be moved or that I *wanted* it moved...all I said was that this seemed more of a religious thing with a "lol" thrown in there, but I didn't jump on him and say something like "omg. How could you post this here, I'm so reporting it move it NOW!" Was just trying to make a bit of a joke as threads lately seem to be moved all over the place and figured this one would end up the same.

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Wed 06/11/08 07:30 AM
Here is a copy of the article MBD. Sorry, I couldn't include the pics though.



Home --> Politics --> Religion --> Historic Change

Historic Change

Claim: New U.S. dollar coins were designed to omit the motto "In God We Trust."

Status: False.



Examples: [Collected via e-mail, February 2007]

Since the 1950's, "In God We Trust" has been our National Motto, and has been inscribed on the front of all coins and the back of all paper currency.

This new coin came out this month. The U.S. Mint hopes the redesigned $1 coin will win acceptance with consumers.


It does not have "In God We Trust" on it. Here's another way of phasing God out of America.


U.S. Government to Release New Dollar Coins


You guessed it
'IN GOD WE TRUST'
IS GONE!!!

Who originally put 'In God We Trust' onto our currency?

My bet is that it was one of the Presidents on these coins.

All our U.S. Government has done is Dishonor them, and disgust me!!!

If ever there was a reason to boycott something, THIS IS IT!!!!

DO NOT ACCEPT THE NEW DOLLAR COINS AS CHANGE

Together we can force them out of circulation.



Origins: In 2007 the U.S. Mint began a series similar to the 50 State Quarters Program launched in 1999. This new series, the Presidential $1 Coin Program, features dollar coins identical in size, color, and composition to the
earlier Sacagawea dollar, each one bearing the likeness of a former U.S. President on the obverse (front) and a representation of the Statue of Liberty on the reverse (back). The Presidential $1 coins will be released in series of four per year (in order corresponding to the presidents' terms of office) beginning in February 2007.

Like a widely-circulated e-mail from 2004 which claimed that a reference to God had been deliberately omitted from the recently-opened National World War II Memorial, the e-mail forward reproduced above erroneously asserts that the new dollar coins do not include the phrase "In God We Trust" in their design. Actually, the Presidential $1 coins incorporate a few new design features not found on other current U.S. coinage, one of which is that elements typically displayed on either the obverse or reverse of U.S. coins � the year of minting, the mint mark, the motto from the Great Seal of the United States ("E Pluribus Unum"), and the current national motto of the United States ("In God We Trust") � are instead included as edge-incused inscriptions. That is, all of these elements appear on the edges of the new dollar coins rather than on their fronts or backs:


The Presidential dollars neither omit the phrase "In God We Trust" nor demonstrate a plot to "phase God out of America." As specified by
Presidential $1 Coin Act of 2005, the national motto was relocated, along with other common design features, to the edge of the new coins in order to allow for "larger and more dramatic artwork" on the coins' faces. As for the claim that positioning "In God We Trust" as an edge-incused inscription means that the motto will quickly be worn away, it is exceedingly unlikely that any of the presidential dollar coins will experience that much wear, as the overwhelming majority of them have ended up sitting in bank vaults or in the hands of collectors rather than being put into general circulation.

(Small quantities of the George Washington and John Adams presidential dollars were discovered to be missing their edge inscriptions shortly after the initial release of those coins, but those examples were the result of minting errors and were not reflective of the new dollars' intended standard appearance. The stamping of the faces and the adding of the edge inscriptions are separate steps in the minting process and involve the use of different machinery.)

One traditional feature that has been left off the new dollar coins is the appearance of the word "Liberty." The U.S. Mint explained the change by noting that "each coin represents this important value by depicting the Statue of Liberty on the reverse."

Update: With the passage of the Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2008, Congress reversed its previous specifications and instructed the U.S. Mint to move the "In God We Trust" motto from the edge to the front or back of the presidential $1 coins "as soon as is practicable." This change will not take place until the ninth coin in the series is issued in 2009.

Last updated: 6 January 2008

The URL for this page is http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/dollarcoin.asp




lilith401's photo
Wed 06/11/08 07:30 AM
Holy moly quoters..... did ya know you can delete the other posts as long as the quote brackets are set up right? :tongue:

Journey2008's photo
Wed 06/11/08 07:31 AM




It's not true. "In God We Trust" is on the edge of the coin.

See here:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/dollarcoin.asp


I just went to your thread. It plainly states that "In God We Trust" is not on the coin


Where did you see that at? I just reread the entire article again to make sure I wasn't misinterpreting something, and I didn't see it.

It even shows the pictures of the coin's edge showing "In God We Trust".


Just went there again and it reads the same. I'm trying to copy and paste but it won't let me .


Scroll clear down to the bottom, because what you are looking at is the article that is being sent around. That is false. Scroll down to the bottom and you can read the truth about the coinflowerforyou flowerforyou

kitcat87's photo
Wed 06/11/08 07:31 AM




*note* this reply is a rant and is not to offend anyone

OMG that is it i am so sick and tired of our government bending over backwards to be politically correct...look i don't care if your atheist, jewish, muslim, or whatever but AMERICA was founded on CHRISTIANITY so freaking deal with it...some of us remember where our principles came from and what this country was founded on...if you want to come to this country for a better life please do...the more the merrier but don't freaking come over here bash our country bash OUR culture, our language (which congress should have just freaking declared all of those years ago) and then use our government...when you come over here you became AMERICAN and guess what the majority of us believe in GOD so if that word on our money offends you get the he*L out!!!!


Actually, our government was not based on Christianity, nor in the idea of Christianity. It was based on a humanistic view, which incorporates spirituality but does not encompass any one religion. You forget, one of the basic reasons people came here was freedom to worship and believe as they saw fit and not to have religion, any religion, shoved down their throat. Our forefathers, most of them, happened to be Christian, but they did not design our government based on Christian belief, but on humanity.


no i didn't forget that but they came to practice a certain form of christianity and i'm not saying make the whole country that way i don't want to...too conformist...people should come over here and practice whatever they want, wicca, atheism, etc i don't care but it is reaching the point of patheticness when christians have to think twice about where can they prey and etc


I'm sorry, that may have come across in a way I didn't intend, and no offense was intended. Just explaining that our country wasn't founded on Christianity but on freedom. And separation of church and state was another basic principle of our government. There's good reason for that, all you have to do to see why this is necessary is to look at the Middle East.

Heck, look what it does here laugh laugh

But, I meant everything I said with all due respect to your opinions and beliefs flowerforyou



oh and no offense is taken its nice to have an intelligent conversation w/ diff opinions involved and ppl need differing opinions to keep things balanced...and i do believe highly in a lot of seperation of church and state...some parts i disagree w/ for instance i don't believe u should be able to force ppl to practice a certain belief but i don't think our gov should tell them they can't practice a belief period

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Wed 06/11/08 07:32 AM


*note* this reply is a rant and is not to offend anyone

OMG that is it i am so sick and tired of our government bending over backwards to be politically correct...look i don't care if your atheist, jewish, muslim, or whatever but AMERICA was founded on CHRISTIANITY so freaking deal with it...some of us remember where our principles came from and what this country was founded on...if you want to come to this country for a better life please do...the more the merrier but don't freaking come over here bash our country bash OUR culture, our language (which congress should have just freaking declared all of those years ago) and then use our government...when you come over here you became AMERICAN and guess what the majority of us believe in GOD so if that word on our money offends you get the he*L out!!!!


Way to go kitcat!!! Call em like you see em!!! If only
more people would stand up for America, beside our soldiers
we wouldn't have all of this crap going on!!!! bigsmile
bigsmile bigsmile bigsmile Kudo's bigsmile bigsmile
since when do you have to be a "Christian" to stand up for America? When I served, I had Buddists, jews, Muslims, and every other form of religion beside me, and our common thread was belief in GOD, not Christianity!!!!

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Wed 06/11/08 07:34 AM





*note* this reply is a rant and is not to offend anyone

OMG that is it i am so sick and tired of our government bending over backwards to be politically correct...look i don't care if your atheist, jewish, muslim, or whatever but AMERICA was founded on CHRISTIANITY so freaking deal with it...some of us remember where our principles came from and what this country was founded on...if you want to come to this country for a better life please do...the more the merrier but don't freaking come over here bash our country bash OUR culture, our language (which congress should have just freaking declared all of those years ago) and then use our government...when you come over here you became AMERICAN and guess what the majority of us believe in GOD so if that word on our money offends you get the he*L out!!!!


Actually, our government was not based on Christianity, nor in the idea of Christianity. It was based on a humanistic view, which incorporates spirituality but does not encompass any one religion. You forget, one of the basic reasons people came here was freedom to worship and believe as they saw fit and not to have religion, any religion, shoved down their throat. Our forefathers, most of them, happened to be Christian, but they did not design our government based on Christian belief, but on humanity.


no i didn't forget that but they came to practice a certain form of christianity and i'm not saying make the whole country that way i don't want to...too conformist...people should come over here and practice whatever they want, wicca, atheism, etc i don't care but it is reaching the point of patheticness when christians have to think twice about where can they prey and etc


I'm sorry, that may have come across in a way I didn't intend, and no offense was intended. Just explaining that our country wasn't founded on Christianity but on freedom. And separation of church and state was another basic principle of our government. There's good reason for that, all you have to do to see why this is necessary is to look at the Middle East.

Heck, look what it does here laugh laugh

But, I meant everything I said with all due respect to your opinions and beliefs flowerforyou



oh and no offense is taken its nice to have an intelligent conversation w/ diff opinions involved and ppl need differing opinions to keep things balanced...and i do believe highly in a lot of seperation of church and state...some parts i disagree w/ for instance i don't believe u should be able to force ppl to practice a certain belief but i don't think our gov should tell them they can't practice a belief period
I couldnt agree with you more, If more folks chatted about these things, there would be LESS violence and hatred in the world!!!flowerforyou drinker

MyrtleBeachDude's photo
Wed 06/11/08 07:34 AM

Holy moly quoters..... did ya know you can delete the other posts as long as the quote brackets are set up right? :tongue:

hahahahahaha My new catch phrase "Holy moly quoters" drinker

kitcat87's photo
Wed 06/11/08 07:36 AM






*note* this reply is a rant and is not to offend anyone

OMG that is it i am so sick and tired of our government bending over backwards to be politically correct...look i don't care if your atheist, jewish, muslim, or whatever but AMERICA was founded on CHRISTIANITY so freaking deal with it...some of us remember where our principles came from and what this country was founded on...if you want to come to this country for a better life please do...the more the merrier but don't freaking come over here bash our country bash OUR culture, our language (which congress should have just freaking declared all of those years ago) and then use our government...when you come over here you became AMERICAN and guess what the majority of us believe in GOD so if that word on our money offends you get the he*L out!!!!


Actually, our government was not based on Christianity, nor in the idea of Christianity. It was based on a humanistic view, which incorporates spirituality but does not encompass any one religion. You forget, one of the basic reasons people came here was freedom to worship and believe as they saw fit and not to have religion, any religion, shoved down their throat. Our forefathers, most of them, happened to be Christian, but they did not design our government based on Christian belief, but on humanity.


no i didn't forget that but they came to practice a certain form of christianity and i'm not saying make the whole country that way i don't want to...too conformist...people should come over here and practice whatever they want, wicca, atheism, etc i don't care but it is reaching the point of patheticness when christians have to think twice about where can they prey and etc


I'm sorry, that may have come across in a way I didn't intend, and no offense was intended. Just explaining that our country wasn't founded on Christianity but on freedom. And separation of church and state was another basic principle of our government. There's good reason for that, all you have to do to see why this is necessary is to look at the Middle East.

Heck, look what it does here laugh laugh

But, I meant everything I said with all due respect to your opinions and beliefs flowerforyou



oh and no offense is taken its nice to have an intelligent conversation w/ diff opinions involved and ppl need differing opinions to keep things balanced...and i do believe highly in a lot of seperation of church and state...some parts i disagree w/ for instance i don't believe u should be able to force ppl to practice a certain belief but i don't think our gov should tell them they can't practice a belief period
I couldnt agree with you more, If more folks chatted about these things, there would be LESS violence and hatred in the world!!!flowerforyou drinker


yes there would be and thank you for your service a lot of my friends are over there as we speak...flowerforyou flowerforyou

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Wed 06/11/08 07:38 AM
i will use itdrinker


:tongue:

hahahahahaha My new catch phrase "Holy moly quoters" drinker

Joaverage's photo
Wed 06/11/08 07:44 AM



*note* this reply is a rant and is not to offend anyone

OMG that is it i am so sick and tired of our government bending over backwards to be politically correct...look i don't care if your atheist, jewish, muslim, or whatever but AMERICA was founded on CHRISTIANITY so freaking deal with it...some of us remember where our principles came from and what this country was founded on...if you want to come to this country for a better life please do...the more the merrier but don't freaking come over here bash our country bash OUR culture, our language (which congress should have just freaking declared all of those years ago) and then use our government...when you come over here you became AMERICAN and guess what the majority of us believe in GOD so if that word on our money offends you get the he*L out!!!!


Way to go kitcat!!! Call em like you see em!!! If only
more people would stand up for America, beside our soldiers
we wouldn't have all of this crap going on!!!! bigsmile
bigsmile bigsmile bigsmile Kudo's bigsmile bigsmile
since when do you have to be a "Christian" to stand up for America? When I served, I had Buddists, jews, Muslims, and every other form of religion beside me, and our common thread was belief in GOD, not Christianity!!!!


Excuse me, when does people only refer to Christians?? I said more people stand up for America, beside our soldiers..??? How can that even be thought to exclude any religion or non christian?

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Wed 06/11/08 07:50 AM


Holy moly quoters..... did ya know you can delete the other posts as long as the quote brackets are set up right? :tongue:

hahahahahaha My new catch phrase "Holy moly quoters" drinker


I like that too laugh

MyrtleBeachDude's photo
Wed 06/11/08 08:04 AM
I stand corrected MsCarmen is right. I didn't scroll down. Great discussion though. Thanks Carmen for clearing that up I can calm down flowerforyou flowerforyou

MsCarmen's photo
Wed 06/11/08 08:06 AM

I stand corrected MsCarmen is right. I didn't scroll down. Great discussion though. Thanks Carmen for clearing that up I can calm down flowerforyou flowerforyou


You are very welcome MBD, and I apologize it I made you upset.

flowerforyou

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Wed 06/11/08 08:31 AM
Part the reason was to escape religious prosecution, from the Official Church of the State. Its about freedom from religion too. To practice ones religion without State interference, is what America is about. Now at the time, everyone was pretty much a variation of Christianity, Church of England, Catholic, Protestant, Lutheran, Jewish.
Today its a bit more diverse and extreme too.

DebbieJT's photo
Wed 06/11/08 08:50 AM
it happens england did this a long time ago changed the pound note to a coin and we have a 2 pound coin now..soon the 5 pound note will go one day me thinks