Topic: Our Nation�s Self-Respect Demands Impeachment
madisonman's photo
Sun 06/01/08 03:12 PM
Published on Sunday, June 1, 2008 by the Seattle Post-Intelligencer
Our Nation�s Self-Respect Demands Impeachment
by Linda Boyd
I wept to see Sami al Haj embrace his young son for the first time after six years in Guantanamo prison. Sami al Haj, a Sudanese news cameraman, was seized in Pakistan while working for al Jazeera News. He was imprisoned, tortured and brutalized by Americans while there. Like most prisoners held at Guantanamo, al Haj was never tried or charged.

After his release, Sami al Haj arrived in Sudan and was immediately rushed to a hospital by ambulance, weakened by his 438-day hunger strike in Guantanamo. His message to our government: �Torture does not stop terrorism, torture is terrorism.�

The U.S. government evidence against him says, �He was trained in the use of cameras by al Jazeera News.�

The American people have a choice ahead of them. They can continue to be shamed as a nation of torturers, or they can put a stop to this administration�s ongoing crimes against humanity.

Abusing and terrorizing innocent people doesn�t make us safer. Imprisoning people without due process doesn�t make us safer. Violating our laws, treaties and values doesn�t make us safer.

U.S. military and FBI interrogation experts affirm that testimony obtained under torture is inaccurate and unreliable. In May, the FBI issued a scathing 371-page report on torture and war crimes compiled from observations at Guantanamo. Even the CIA concluded in a 1963 study that coercion is �not very helpful outside the context of producing false propaganda.�

George W. Bush said, �We do not condone torture. I have never ordered torture. I will never order torture.�

Recently, Bush admitted that he knew top administration officials met repeatedly in the White House to discuss coercive interrogation techniques, including torture, and that he �approved them.�

President Bush, Vice President **** Cheney and top administration officials have in fact condoned torture, and violated domestic and international laws that ban cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment of human beings.

These laws include the Geneva Conventions, the 1984 U.N. Convention Against Torture and the U.S. Constitution. These laws are not invalidated, as the Bush team alleges, if prisoners are not on U.S. soil.

Torture laws are jus cogens, meaning �compelling law,� said constitutional law Professor Marjorie Cohn, in testimony before the House Judiciary Committee. �There can be no immunity from criminal liability for violation of a jus cogens prohibition.�

Being a rogue nation is not in our best interest and exposes our soldiers and citizens to grave danger. Why hasn�t Congress stopped torture?

It is unconscionable to simply wait for the torture team to leave office while hapless individuals are imprisoned without due process and tortured. Sami al Haj spoke of the many prisoners languishing in Guantanamo. In despair, many have tried to commit suicide.

Taking impeachment off the table means there is no limit to the Bush team�s depravity, and that torture will continue in our name.

The administration is already expanding prisons around the world, where the abuse of human rights will continue. A new 40-acre prison is under construction in Afghanistan.

While Guantanamo�s prison population is shrinking, prisoners from around the world are being redirected to U.S. prisons in Iraq, where they�ll be more hidden from the public eye. Particularly disturbing are reports of children imprisoned by the U.S. in the Middle East and Guantanamo.

Eventually, some of our highest officials will be tried for war crimes in a court of international law.

Already, charges of condoning torture are advancing against former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld in France. Author Philippe Sands quotes a judge with experience in international criminal cases who says �It�s a matter of time� before members of the Bush administration are arrested for war crimes while traveling abroad.

Why bother with impeachment if charges for war crimes will eventually catch up with the torture team?

Criminal charges can punish individuals for their crimes, but impeachment has the power to restore the rule of law, and redeem the office of the executive. Impeachment hearings will put the truth on the congressional record. Unlike other subpoenas, impeachment subpoenas cannot be denied.

Impeachment establishes legal precedent, so that future public officials will not be able to abuse power in the same way. The American people can signal to the world that they have taken responsibility for their own government, and ensure that torture will never again be this nation�s policy.

We must demand that Congress make ending torture the top priority. They know about torture, and their silence makes them complicit.

The eyes of the world are upon us. There�s plenty of time to impeach. Our self-respect as a nation demands it.

Linda Boyd is director of Washington for impeachment; washingtonforimpeachment.org

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/06/01/9347/

tribo's photo
Sun 06/01/08 03:13 PM
Then impeach all those who put him into office also.:smile:

MirrorMirror's photo
Sun 06/01/08 03:14 PM
flowerforyou I think any government employee that engages in torture should prosecuted and imprisoned including the President if necessary.flowerforyou


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BrooklynDeluxe's photo
Sun 06/01/08 03:28 PM
Tribo: this is not really a democratic country :P
people have extremely limited (and delusional) choice of who is in the office (two parties? this is joke! - what if you don't like either of them?). It's a closed club of people who set the rules for themselves and there is no control over them.
But, at least there are people, who are not afraid to say it aloud!

some time ago I witnessed a group of people who were demonstrating at Union Square. They were carrying large signs asking to investigate the 9/11 - and you know what is funny? There were these two guys running around them and shouting: "This is not true! The evidence is clear!" - I understand there is a freedom of speach, but... you know? the way these guys were doing it - it looked exactly like these guys were trying to cover everything up and discredit the manifesters. I had a gut feeling these guys were sent out to scare these protesting people.
I have never believed in any conspiracy theories, but what is happening here makes me wonder: What if ....

Anyway, I'm happy that this is not my country and I neither should nor I'm obliged to care about it.

wilkit's photo
Sun 06/01/08 03:34 PM

flowerforyou I think any government employee that engages in torture should prosecuted and imprisoned including the President if necessary.flowerforyou


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:angry: Have to agree with you Mirror.

madisonman's photo
Sun 06/01/08 04:19 PM
Edited by madisonman on Sun 06/01/08 04:19 PM
I think it would be great to have them in orange jumpsuites and on trial for war crimes as well as impeacheddrinker

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Sun 06/01/08 05:33 PM

I think it would be great to have them in orange jumpsuites and on trial for war crimes as well as impeacheddrinker


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Quikstepper's photo
Sun 06/01/08 05:42 PM
Our self respect demands integrity & intelligence too. Go tell that to all those who spew lies simply because they oppose another's POV.

They can impeach bush AFTER they impeach & lock up the politicially correct LIARS in this country.


therooster's photo
Sun 06/01/08 05:58 PM

Our self respect demands integrity & intelligence too. Go tell that to all those who spew lies simply because they oppose another's POV.

They can impeach bush AFTER they impeach & lock up the politicially correct LIARS in this country.


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adj4u's photo
Mon 06/02/08 07:20 AM
actually everyone responsible for the passing and implimentation of the "patriot act of 2001" (google it as such if you want to read it section 6 is very interesting)

should be tried and shot for treason

just a thought

but hey

what do i know

tribo's photo
Mon 06/02/08 06:07 PM

Tribo: this is not really a democratic country :P
people have extremely limited (and delusional) choice of who is in the office (two parties? this is joke! - what if you don't like either of them?). It's a closed club of people who set the rules for themselves and there is no control over them.
But, at least there are people, who are not afraid to say it aloud!

some time ago I witnessed a group of people who were demonstrating at Union Square. They were carrying large signs asking to investigate the 9/11 - and you know what is funny? There were these two guys running around them and shouting: "This is not true! The evidence is clear!" - I understand there is a freedom of speach, but... you know? the way these guys were doing it - it looked exactly like these guys were trying to cover everything up and discredit the manifesters. I had a gut feeling these guys were sent out to scare these protesting people.
I have never believed in any conspiracy theories, but what is happening here makes me wonder: What if ....

Anyway, I'm happy that this is not my country and I neither should nor I'm obliged to care about it.



The problem with this and every other country is there is no "core problem" solving ever done by those who "run the country - be it a republic, democracy,both or other !! As long as band-aids and surgury will get the job done, that is what will alway's be used.If an engine gets old - you "tear" it apart and "rebuild it"!! All replacing of part's as needed - just keep's the engine running til then. We need to "rebuild" the government - and if that doesnot fly - then we need a new engine!! explode

transientmind's photo
Mon 06/02/08 06:22 PM
Our nation has self-respect?

News to me.

Then again, maybe we've been respecting ourselves and only ourselves far too long.

...And I agree with Mirror, but would add that the people behind the prez would have to be imprisoned. A much harder task, since they own the money.

Drivinmenutz's photo
Tue 06/03/08 09:00 PM
Here's what i don't understand. The libs are quick to accuse the "bigger", "stronger" Americans of torture when it really doesn't happen. Or at least not to the extent in which people think. Seriously, anyone who thinks that keeping someone up for 24 hours or standing them in a corner is torture really needs to crawl out from the caves. I highly doubt our pow's get put up in the hilton with 24 hour room service when they get captured. Nonetheless, i do underdtand that two wrongs don't make a right. But give me a break. You can't fight guys withs guns by showering them with flowers and champaign from the heavens.

Also blaming everything on Bush is another common critical thinking fallacy ("false cause" i believe) that is sending our country in a downward spiral faster than our supposed Bush ever could. "If we didn't have these problems before he was in office then they must be his fault."sick noway Come on guys. Basic first year college common sense.

sushi's photo
Tue 06/03/08 09:04 PM
Amen! Now it's time for all of us to turn to "Jimmy Kimmel Live".