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Lies of Aggression
by Paul Craig Roberts On May 15, the White House Moron, in a war-planning visit to Israel, justified the naked aggression he and Olmert are planning against Iran as the only alternative to "the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history." But the White House Moron has the roles reversed. It is not Iran that is threatening war. It is Bush. It is not Bush who is appeasing. It is Iran. Iran has not responded in kind to any of Bush’s warlike moves and provocations. Iran has not sunk a single one of our sitting-duck ships and has not given the Iraqi insurgents any weapons that would easily turn the tide of war against the US. It is Bush, not Iran, who sounds like Adolf Hitler blustering and threatening. It is Bush’s American Brownshirts, the neocons, who express the view: "what’s the good of nuclear weapons if you can’t use them." It is the US that is funding assassination teams inside Iran and using taxpayer dollars to fund dissident and violent organizations opposed to the Iranian government. Iran is doing no such thing here. It is members of the Bush Regime and US generals who continue to lie through their teeth about Iranian support for insurgents, for which they can supply no evidence, and about Iranian nuclear weapons programs, for which the IAEA inspectors can find no sign. It is the US print and TV media that serves the Bush Regime as propaganda ministry for its lies of aggression. All the war crimes that are being planned are being planned by Bush and Olmert. What would George Orwell make of the Bush Regime’s position that anything less than a direct act of naked aggression is appeasement? The Chicago City Council has passed a resolution "opposing any US attack on Iran and urging the Bush Administration to pursue diplomatic engagement with that nation." But the White House Moron says diplomacy is appeasement. He learned this false equivalence from the neocon Brownshirts whose control over his administration has made America despised throughout the world, with the exception of Israel. After broadcasting false claims for weeks from US generals and Bush Regime spokespersons that the US has "definite proof" in the form of captured Iranian weapons that Iranians were "responsible for killing American troops," the great free American media went silent when LA Times correspondent Tina Susman reported from Baghdad: "A plan to show some alleged Iranian-supplied explosives to journalists last week in Karbala and then destroy them was cancelled after the United States realized none of them was from Iran." A people devoid of a media are sitting ducks for tyrannical government, which is what the US has. What is the difference between Hitler’s concocted excuses for his acts of naked aggression and the Bush Regime’s plan to use a briefing by General Petraeus, with "captured Iranian weapons" as props, as proof of Iranian complicity in US deaths in Iraq as a means to break down public and congressional resistance to an attack on Iran? Why has the Bush Regime suffered no consequences for this blatant attempt to orchestrate an excuse for another war? Why have there been no consequences to the Regime for the blatant lies it told in order to attack Iraq? Why has the Bush Regime suffered no consequences for its violation of US statutory laws against spying without warrants and against torture? In the US criminal justice system, three strikes and you are out. For the Bush Regime is there any limit on its lawless behavior? How many strikes? A dozen? Thirty? Three hundred? Is there a limit? May 16, 2008 Paul Craig Roberts a former Assistant Secretary of the US Treasury and former associate editor of the Wall Street Journal, has been reporting shocking cases of prosecutorial abuse for two decades. A new edition of his book, The Tyranny of Good Intentions, co-authored with Lawrence Stratton, a documented account of how Americans lost the protection of law, has just been released by Random House. -------------------------------------------------- Man, what a good op-ed. Before I have to suffer through one call of Liberal, lets be reminded that Mr.Roberts, worked under Reagan and is widely known to be the father of Reaganomics. |
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For the record, since BoyGeorge felt like he should invoke the Nazi's, it should be mentioned that he should know, it's in his family.
Prescott Bush funded, supported and loved Hitler's warmachine and political stances... not only that, but he also tried to orchestrate and finance the coup of then President Franklin Roosevelt to install his little dream of Fascism. Guess the Grandson is succeeding where the Granddaddy and Daddy failed, or need I remind anybody about how many times Daddy Bush invoked the words: New World Order? |
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so based on so much of what i've read.... HOW IS IT POSSIBLE!!??? that this idiot is allowed to run such a powerful country? steal the presidency lie to the whole country and still sit there???
ya gotta wonder america the land of the free and the home of the brave right |
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For the record, since BoyGeorge felt like he should invoke the Nazi's, it should be mentioned that he should know, it's in his family. Prescott Bush funded, supported and loved Hitler's warmachine and political stances... not only that, but he also tried to orchestrate and finance the coup of then President Franklin Roosevelt to install his little dream of Fascism. Guess the Grandson is succeeding where the Granddaddy and Daddy failed, or need I remind anybody about how many times Daddy Bush invoked the words: New World Order? You could have left this out war. Its not true, and actually the people responsible were closer to Ron Pauls dream of eliminating the Fed reserve... |
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Edited by
Fanta46
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Fri 05/16/08 06:45 AM
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OK, while it is true that Prescott Bush had business ties to Hitlers Germany, he had these ties before Hitler invaded any country. He severed these ties when it became unlawful to do so. He was investigated an d cleared in a Senate hearing after the war.
If you read the transcript from General Smedley Butler's congressional testimony concerning the assassination attempts on FDR's life. You will find, if memory serves me right, that he was approached by a coalition of very powerful men to take control of the gov with the intent to reverse the decision that created the Federal Reserve, and revert back to the gold standard! Its easy to find!! If you have trouble let me know and I'll help! |
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For the record, since BoyGeorge felt like he should invoke the Nazi's, it should be mentioned that he should know, it's in his family. Prescott Bush funded, supported and loved Hitler's warmachine and political stances... not only that, but he also tried to orchestrate and finance the coup of then President Franklin Roosevelt to install his little dream of Fascism. Guess the Grandson is succeeding where the Granddaddy and Daddy failed, or need I remind anybody about how many times Daddy Bush invoked the words: New World Order? You could have left this out war. Its not true, and actually the people responsible were closer to Ron Pauls dream of eliminating the Fed reserve... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnAUQeHykXY President Bush's grandfather was a director of a bank seized by the federal government because of its ties to a German industrialist who helped bankroll Adolf Hitler's rise to power, government documents show. Prescott Bush was one of seven directors of Union Banking Corp. (search), a New York investment bank owned by a bank controlled by the Thyssen family, according to recently declassified National Archives documents reviewed by The Associated Press. Fritz Thyssen was an early financial supporter of Hitler, whose Nazi party Thyssen believed was preferable to communism. Both Harrimans and Bush were partners in the New York investment firm of Brown Brothers, Harriman and Co., which handled the financial transactions of the bank as well as other financial dealings with several other companies linked to Bank voor Handel that were confiscated by the U.S. government during World War II. Union Banking was seized by the government in October 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act. ------------------------------------------------- This was proven without a shadow of a doubt, by documents in the Library of Congress/National Archives. ------------------------------------------------- Documents that uncovers details of a planned coup in the USA in 1933 by right-wing American businessmen. The coup was aimed at toppling President Franklin D Roosevelt with the help of half-a-million war veterans. The plotters, who were alleged to involve some of the most famous families in America, (owners of Heinz, Birds Eye, Goodtea, Maxwell Hse & George Bush's Grandfather, Prescott) believed that their country should adopt the policies of Hitler and Mussolini to beat the great depression. http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/document/document_20070723.shtml ------------------------------------------------- This was investigated and reported on in a BBC report and if you look, I'm sure you can find Smedley Butlers testimony about how he was approached by the interests of those seeking to install facsism, this testimony was done before Congress and Smedley Butler then did media interviews directly following testifying. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar -------------------------------------------------- To even invoke Dr.Pauls name with the fact that the Bush family finds within their history bankrolling Hitler and trying to install Facsism is weak and kind of insulting. Name me another political "dynasty" that has been sued by Holocaust survivors? All the evidence I've ever found points at it being fact, you convince me it's all fabricated. |
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There was a Senate investigation into both matters war. I have read the claims you are referring to and the transcripts form the Senate investigations.
Yes they seized his assets but he was later cleared and his assets were returned. The articles you are referencing are half truths. Not completely false, yet not completely true either. I invoked Paul's name only because his motives are the same as those who conspired to overthrow the gov. I did not accuse him of doing the same. Not once in anything I have read from Gen Butlers testimony or the Congressional hearings into this incident mention Prescott Bush. Really, I have researched it before, but that is not the topic of the thread. It was just incorrect data backing an otherwise good thread!! |
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OK, while it is true that Prescott Bush had business ties to Hitlers Germany, he had these ties before Hitler invaded any country. He severed these ties when it became unlawful to do so. He was investigated an d cleared in a Senate hearing after the war. If you read the transcript from General Smedley Butler's congressional testimony concerning the assassination attempts on FDR's life. You will find, if memory serves me right, that he was approached by a coalition of very powerful men to take control of the gov with the intent to reverse the decision that created the Federal Reserve, and revert back to the gold standard! Its easy to find!! If you have trouble let me know and I'll help! The first part is not entirely true, if it was, then why were his assets seized as a part of the trading with enemy act? It wasn't like they went, oh, Hitlers doing bad things, to the contrary, they continued their business dealings with the Nazi's until their business was seized in 1942. In fact Fritz Thyssien continued to work for and help Hitlers regime until they had a falling out later during the war. He was cleared of any wrong doing, but is that any different than what goes on with wealthy and powerful men today? http://www.nhgazette.com/the-bushnazi-stories/bushnazi-link-confirmed/ http://www.nhgazette.com/the-bushnazi-stories/bushnazi-link-continued/ Three sets of archives spell out Prescott Bush's involvement. All three are readily available, thanks to the efficient US archive system and a helpful and dedicated staff at both the Library of Congress in Washington and the National Archives at the University of Maryland. The first set of files, the Harriman papers in the Library of Congress, show that Prescott Bush was a director and shareholder of a number of companies involved with Thyssen. The second set of papers, which are in the National Archives, are contained in vesting order number 248 which records the seizure of the company assets. What these files show is that on October 20 1942 the alien property custodian seized the assets of the UBC, of which Prescott Bush was a director. Having gone through the books of the bank, further seizures were made against two affiliates, the Holland-American Trading Corporation and the Seamless Steel Equipment Corporation. By November, the Silesian-American Company, another of Prescott Bush's ventures, had also been seized. The third set of documents, also at the National Archives, are contained in the files on IG Farben, who was prosecuted for war crimes. A report issued by the Office of Alien Property Custodian in 1942 stated of the companies that "since 1939, these (steel and mining) properties have been in possession of and have been operated by the German government and have undoubtedly been of considerable assistance to that country's war effort". I've read the transcripts of the Smedley Butler testimony, what you're referring to, is when asked how these powerbrokers ( who, yes, included Prescott Bush, but involve some other household names) convinced these WWI vets to be involved, had given them a laundry list of reasons that they should be paid in gold and not paper or rubber money. It should be noted that another of the major players in this, one Gerald McGuire, was an advocate of Gold only currency. (which isn't even close to what Dr. Paul is talking about, by the way.) |
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Its a tough one to defend, but also eually tough to condemn Prescott. It was determined he did nothing illegal and his holdings which consisted of 1/3 were immeadiately returned.
Smedley Butler gave a complete testimony to congress. A first person account.. I have to go to a job interview. But I'll try to look later. I am going off memory, and Im sure Im forgetting some of it. I went into my earlier research hoping beyond hope to find some solid irrefutable evidence against Bush, believe me. |
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1942... that means this "american" company continued to do business with Hitler's Nazi's AFTER Pearl Harbor.
I've read and reread this mess myself,everything I could find in fact. I resigned myself along time ago to the fact that no matter what I have to say about it, he got away with it, built the Bush political dynasty off of the money made from these dealing with Thyssian/Hitler. It seems scary to me, that if you combine this with the Project Paperclip after WWII, we have had alot of Nazi's and Nazi sympathizers in positions of power in our Corporate structures, Government and those agencies that fall under the Jurisdiction of our Federal Government. I feel like this is relevant, because Bush felt like lumping in the Democrats with the Nazi sympathizers, when in fact, it's in his family lineage that the exact thing he was talking about occured. |
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Its a tough one to defend, but also eually tough to condemn Prescott. It was determined he did nothing illegal and his holdings which consisted of 1/3 were immeadiately returned. Smedley Butler gave a complete testimony to congress. A first person account.. I have to go to a job interview. But I'll try to look later. I am going off memory, and Im sure Im forgetting some of it. I went into my earlier research hoping beyond hope to find some solid irrefutable evidence against Bush, believe me. It's all good, and I appreciate the challenge of having to go back and make sure I wasn't mixing one mess up with the other. Good Luck with the job interview! |
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1942... that means this "american" company continued to do business with Hitler's Nazi's AFTER Pearl Harbor. I've read and reread this mess myself,everything I could find in fact. I resigned myself along time ago to the fact that no matter what I have to say about it, he got away with it, built the Bush political dynasty off of the money made from these dealing with Thyssian/Hitler. It seems scary to me, that if you combine this with the Project Paperclip after WWII, we have had alot of Nazi's and Nazi sympathizers in positions of power in our Corporate structures, Government and those agencies that fall under the Jurisdiction of our Federal Government. I feel like this is relevant, because Bush felt like lumping in the Democrats with the Nazi sympathizers, when in fact, it's in his family lineage that the exact thing he was talking about occured. Lets continue this later. You know I hate the SOB, and would love to find something substantial.. There is a lot of propoganda to wade through to get their though.. TTYL War... |
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1942... that means this "american" company continued to do business with Hitler's Nazi's AFTER Pearl Harbor. I've read and reread this mess myself,everything I could find in fact. I resigned myself along time ago to the fact that no matter what I have to say about it, he got away with it, built the Bush political dynasty off of the money made from these dealing with Thyssian/Hitler. It seems scary to me, that if you combine this with the Project Paperclip after WWII, we have had alot of Nazi's and Nazi sympathizers in positions of power in our Corporate structures, Government and those agencies that fall under the Jurisdiction of our Federal Government. I feel like this is relevant, because Bush felt like lumping in the Democrats with the Nazi sympathizers, when in fact, it's in his family lineage that the exact thing he was talking about occured. Lets continue this later. You know I hate the SOB, and would love to find something substantial.. There is a lot of propoganda to wade through to get their though.. TTYL War... You are beyond correct about the propaganda out there. I don't like to deal in fabrications, just fact! We most certainly will have to wade back into this later! |
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HA, I got Joy Behar in my corner... for what thats worth!
The View co-host brings up Prescott Bush's Nazi ties David Edwards and Muriel Kane Raw Story Tuesday, May 20, 2008 When host Whoopi Goldberg raised the issue of George W. Bush's comparing anyone who wants to talk to Iran or Syria with the appeasers of Nazi Germany on Monday's edition of ABC's The View, the panel erupted into furious debate. Conservative Elizabeth Hasselbeck repeatedly attempted to question whether Bush's remarks were really aimed at Barack Obama. She insisted, "It's not always about him," and suggested Obama is being defensive because he knows his support for talks with Iran is a weak spot. "I think the president was very clear in what he meant," Goldberg replied tartly. "The Bush administration is out there talking to North Korea, talking to Syria," noted liberal Joy Behar. "Isn't that what diplomacy is about? This guy doesn't know the difference between the word 'diplomacy' and 'appeasement.' He's just stupid." "One more point," continued Behar, pulling out a prepared statement. "It's very interesting and ironic that George Bush, Senior's -- er, George Bush, this one -- his grandfather -- this one -- the late -- I don't like to speak ill of the dead, but in this case it's fun -- he was a United States senator, Prescott Bush. Okay -- he was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany." "This is his grandfather," Behar continued. "He has no business talking to Jewish people when he's got this right in his backyard." "How come you can bring up this backyard but then it's not alright to dig into Obama's backyard and family history?" was all the flustered Hasselbeck could find to say. |
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Ummm.... wouldn't be calling Israel a soon-to-be stinking corpse and other end days for the country, which would result in the mass murder of millions essentially be a declaration of war? Wouldn't illegally seizing British military servicemen in international waters be a declaration of war? Wouldn't funding a proxy army to overthrow a legitimate democratic country as well as fund proxy terror armies to launch missiles into that soon-to-be stinking corpse be a declaration of war? Wouldn't forming close military ties with Sudan while having a Hezbollah base there to conduct terror operations in democratic countries in Africa be an act of war? Wouldn't be harboring and supplying terror militia groups (Al Sadr) in Iraq that kills Iraqi civilians and army as well as US military servicemen be an act of war?
Yes, it would be, in a sane world. |
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"The enormous sums of money deposited into the Union Bank prior to 1942 is the best evidence that Prescott Bush knowingly served as a money launderer for the Nazis. Remember that Union Banks' books and accounts were frozen by the U.S. Alien Property Custodian in 1942 and not released back to the Bush family until 1951. At that time, Union Bank shares representing hundreds of millions of dollars worth of industrial stocks and bonds were unblocked for distribution. Did the Bush family really believe that such enormous sums came from Dutch enterprises? One could sell tulip bulbs and wooden shoes for centuries and not achieve those sums. A fortune this size could only have come from the Thyssen profits made from rearming the Third Reich, and then hidden, first from the Nazi tax auditors, and then from the Allies."
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3255.htm Even this very weak Nazi link to the Bush family is circumstantial at best. But wait, click on any of the very impressive links provided by the author. See where they take you.. |
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Keep in mind!
I hate Bush, Prescott Bush (search) was one of seven directors of Union Banking Corp. (search), a New York investment bank owned by a bank controlled by the Thyssen family, according to recently declassified National Archives documents reviewed by The Associated Press. Fritz Thyssen (search) was an early financial supporter of Hitler, whose Nazi party Thyssen believed was preferable to communism. The documents do not show any evidence Bush directly aided that effort. His position with Union Banking never was a political issue for Bush, who was elected to the Senate from Connecticut in 1952. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,100474,00.html The business the companies in which Prescott Bush was at best a part of (their were several people)and the business they did in relation to the Nazi war effort were not illegal at the time. When it became illegal they were halted except the above mentioned! Those funds were cleared and returned to the 7 partners without prosecution to anyone. Innocent until proven guilty??? I hope, at least back then I think we were, and without a prosecution these stories are nothing but a conspiracy theory. |
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Same article by FOX
The 4,000 Union Banking shares owned by the Dutch bank were registered in the names of the seven U.S. directors, according a document signed by Homer Jones, chief of the division of investigation and research of the Office of Alien Property Custodian, a World War II-era agency that no longer exists. E. Roland Harriman, the bank chairman and brother of former New York Gov. W. Averell Harriman (search), held 3,991 shares. Bush had one share. Very weak link... |
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Fanta46
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Tue 05/20/08 04:26 PM
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Same article, FOX
Fritz Thyssen broke with the Nazis in 1938 over their persecution of Catholics and Jews, and fled to Switzerland. He later was arrested and spent 1941 to 1945 in a Nazi prison. His brother lived in Switzerland from 1932 to 1947 but continued to operate businesses in Germany. The new documents were first reported by freelance writer John Buchanan in The New Hampshire Gazette. There goes the link, at least IMO. Im still looking for the newly released documents used by the thousands of web sites to start this conspiracy warmachine. They are out there, Ive seen them before but did not save the link. |
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