Topic: McCain won't rule out preemptive war.
Drivinmenutz's photo
Wed 05/07/08 11:11 PM
Yeah, Ron Paul is definately underated. Would have liked to have seen someone like him in office. But i'm thinking he doesn't have many fans in congress since half of what he preaches limits the powers and controls of the federal government over the people. But instead people are wanted to be controlled more and more. Especially since this war on terror started. Not to mention people re increasingly becoming fans of government handouts.

adj4u's photo
Wed 05/07/08 11:13 PM




Could have had Ron Paul...




Not a huge fan, but he surely did have some good ideas to get back to some basics..
and get the economy squared away. They would never let him win.


i have noticed that remark a lot

interesting very interesting

could you answer this for me

had some good ideas (yes i agree)

but do you ever expect to get a candidate you agree with completely

and who is they (i think i know but i want your opinion)

and the real they is the people and if they want they can have whomever they want if they would quit being so apathetic

but then again who cares
Just kind of worried about the whole racism thing with him and his publication. He never really did clear that up. Don't really think a Militia orientated, racist president would be the way. I could be wrong.....that allegation just kind of worried me. I could be fine with the militia, but the other I am not.


so ob sama racist accusations are ok

and hillary's murder torture accusations are ok

must mean mccains warmongering accusations are ok as well

interesting which accusation are you least uncomfortable with

just a thought

no photo
Wed 05/07/08 11:13 PM
would love to get rid of federl reserve and the irs........didn't have it for the first hundred years and all went well........lol.

no photo
Wed 05/07/08 11:14 PM





Could have had Ron Paul...




Not a huge fan, but he surely did have some good ideas to get back to some basics..
and get the economy squared away. They would never let him win.


i have noticed that remark a lot

interesting very interesting

could you answer this for me

had some good ideas (yes i agree)

but do you ever expect to get a candidate you agree with completely

and who is they (i think i know but i want your opinion)

and the real they is the people and if they want they can have whomever they want if they would quit being so apathetic

but then again who cares
Just kind of worried about the whole racism thing with him and his publication. He never really did clear that up. Don't really think a Militia orientated, racist president would be the way. I could be wrong.....that allegation just kind of worried me. I could be fine with the militia, but the other I am not.


so ob sama racist accusations are ok

and hillary's murder torture accusations are ok

must mean mccains warmongering accusations are ok as well

interesting which accusation are you least uncomfortable with

just a thought

Don't really see any evidence that the others are flat out racist......could be wrong, but they do not put a publication out loaded with it. I may be mistaken.

Winx's photo
Wed 05/07/08 11:16 PM

Or Dems letting the tax cuts run out so we have the biggest tax hike since 1932? can you enlighten me? If you can please do. All those sons of *****es freak me out.




Well, the Republicans freak me out.

adj4u's photo
Wed 05/07/08 11:17 PM
well as long as they hide it well

:wink:

be well and thx for answering my question

may much good come to you and yours

no photo
Wed 05/07/08 11:18 PM
we have had a Democratic congress and house for years now. They were going to change the world when they took control. And pull the troops out. What have you seen them do since that change took place? Not a damn thing! and the is a fact. They are one in the same Winx.
So I can agree that a third viable party is needed.

adj4u's photo
Wed 05/07/08 11:20 PM

we have had a Democratic congress and house for years now. They were going to change the world when they took control. And pull the troops out. What have you seen them do since that change took place? Not a damn thing! and the is a fact. They are one in the same Winx.
So I can agree that a third viable party is needed.



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warmachine's photo
Wed 05/07/08 11:21 PM




Could have had Ron Paul...




Not a huge fan, but he surely did have some good ideas to get back to some basics..
and get the economy squared away. They would never let him win.


i have noticed that remark a lot

interesting very interesting

could you answer this for me

had some good ideas (yes i agree)

but do you ever expect to get a candidate you agree with completely

and who is they (i think i know but i want your opinion)

and the real they is the people and if they want they can have whomever they want if they would quit being so apathetic

but then again who cares
Just kind of worried about the whole racism thing with him and his publication. He never really did clear that up. Don't really think a Militia orientated, racist president would be the way. I could be wrong.....that allegation just kind of worried me. I could be fine with the militia, but the other I am not.


I thought he cleared it up pretty well, he said it was a newsletter that carried his name, but he wasn't editing it from Texas, he was in Washington doing his job. The rumor is that the article in question might have been written or authorized by Lew Rockwell, but thats just rumors.

When he found out about it, he issued a retraction, what more can he do. If he's such a racist, why was he the only money raising candidate to visit the Tavis Smiley debate for African American voters? Why was he the only candidate to call for an end to the Racist drug wars?

That whole thing was a smear job... and the only thing they could dig up about him!

Can you say the same for McCain, who went on a rant about God D@mned G**ks for reporters? How about Hillary or Obama? Those two have done more to hurt race/sex relations in this country than any antirace group could have hoped to accomplish.


It would be great to do away with the Unconstitutional entities known as the Federal reserve and IRS.

Winx's photo
Wed 05/07/08 11:22 PM

we have had a Democratic congress and house for years now. They were going to change the world when they took control. And pull the troops out. What have you seen them do since that change took place? Not a damn thing! and the is a fact. They are one in the same Winx.
So I can agree that a third viable party is needed.


I don't have the answers. I do know that I want Bush out yesterday.

I also know that your post number is 666. Post again to get rid of that, will you?laugh


no photo
Wed 05/07/08 11:24 PM


we have had a Democratic congress and house for years now. They were going to change the world when they took control. And pull the troops out. What have you seen them do since that change took place? Not a damn thing! and the is a fact. They are one in the same Winx.
So I can agree that a third viable party is needed.


I don't have the answers. I do know that I want Bush out yesterday.

I also know that your post number is 666. Post again to get rid of that, will you?laugh


Yes, for sure, I don't like that number at all.....thank you>

Winx's photo
Wed 05/07/08 11:26 PM



we have had a Democratic congress and house for years now. They were going to change the world when they took control. And pull the troops out. What have you seen them do since that change took place? Not a damn thing! and the is a fact. They are one in the same Winx.
So I can agree that a third viable party is needed.


I don't have the answers. I do know that I want Bush out yesterday.

I also know that your post number is 666. Post again to get rid of that, will you?laugh


Yes, for sure, I don't like that number at all.....thank you>


Much better to look at. Thank you too. Good night.

Drivinmenutz's photo
Wed 05/07/08 11:27 PM
Frankly i am a little sick and tired of people choosing sides. Republicans or democrats. They both have their evils. Democrats are more for government expansion and control. The republicans like try a little too hard to bring in their personal beliefs making morals the law. Then you have Bush passing that patriot act which is just unconstitutional. Although the democrats are more for gun control which is extra scary. Either way, they are both bought and favor big business. Hell, just look at the Clintons (the Bushes too). Who cares. Democrats or republicans. They both suck. And they both have one or two decent folks too. Why are we trying to use prejudice as a form of selecting political leaders? Look at the candidates' political beliefs instead.

adj4u's photo
Wed 05/07/08 11:28 PM



we have had a Democratic congress and house for years now. They were going to change the world when they took control. And pull the troops out. What have you seen them do since that change took place? Not a damn thing! and the is a fact. They are one in the same Winx.
So I can agree that a third viable party is needed.


I don't have the answers. I do know that I want Bush out yesterday.

I also know that your post number is 666. Post again to get rid of that, will you?laugh


Yes, for sure, I don't like that number at all.....thank you>


well yer over it now

warmachine's photo
Wed 05/07/08 11:28 PM

Frankly i am a little sick and tired of people choosing sides. Republicans or democrats. They both have their evils. Democrats are more for government expansion and control. The republicans like try a little too hard to bring in their personal beliefs making morals the law. Then you have Bush passing that patriot act which is just unconstitutional. Although the democrats are more for gun control which is extra scary. Either way, they are both bought and favor big business. Hell, just look at the Clintons (the Bushes too). Who cares. Democrats or republicans. They both suck. And they both have one or two decent folks too. Why are we trying to use prejudice as a form of selecting political leaders? Look at the candidates' political beliefs instead.

smokin
and then cross reference their stated beliefs with their voting record!

Drivinmenutz's photo
Wed 05/07/08 11:29 PM


Frankly i am a little sick and tired of people choosing sides. Republicans or democrats. They both have their evils. Democrats are more for government expansion and control. The republicans like try a little too hard to bring in their personal beliefs making morals the law. Then you have Bush passing that patriot act which is just unconstitutional. Although the democrats are more for gun control which is extra scary. Either way, they are both bought and favor big business. Hell, just look at the Clintons (the Bushes too). Who cares. Democrats or republicans. They both suck. And they both have one or two decent folks too. Why are we trying to use prejudice as a form of selecting political leaders? Look at the candidates' political beliefs instead.

smokin
and then cross reference their stated beliefs with their voting record!


that toodrinker

Drivinmenutz's photo
Thu 05/08/08 01:58 PM

we have had a Democratic congress and house for years now. They were going to change the world when they took control. And pull the troops out. What have you seen them do since that change took place? Not a damn thing! and the is a fact. They are one in the same Winx.
So I can agree that a third viable party is needed.


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Dragoness's photo
Thu 05/08/08 02:03 PM
McCain is the worst of the three offered. He meant that chit about a 100 year war, tried to fudge on it but he meant it. He wants to just blow up everybody for revenge of his time in the POW camp. He is mad about it, he even admits he has anger control issues.noway huh

s1owhand's photo
Thu 05/08/08 02:23 PM
there is no candidate who would rule out a pre-emptive strike if we are threatened severely enough. red herring.

Kevrides's photo
Thu 05/08/08 03:24 PM
I'm all for hitting first if the intelligence says that the likelihood is high that we are going to be attacked.

If Iran or North Korea develops the means to get a nuke to the USA and we find out about it and DON'T do something. That would be the crime.
The government's MAIN purpose is to protect Americans from the threat of attack from foreign forces.
Not doing such a swell job on the borders now are they?
Razor wire fences and a gun tower every 500 yards along with a "shoot to kill" order would eliminate illegal immigration within days and it wouldn't even be considered preemptive. Not knowing who is coming here via Mexico is the biggest threat we have right now.