Topic: What the Bible Says is So
Abracadabra's photo
Fri 05/02/08 02:48 PM

Once again you prove you don't understand the Bible.

One verse, directed one at church at one time said that women couldn't teach. But the fact that 40% of the ministry of the man who wrote that verse (Paul the Apostle) was FEMALE and the fact that he wrote many times about the right of women to teach, shows that the one verse to the contrary was meant to address a specific issue.


I understand it perfectly.

It totally contradicts itself on every other page. flowerforyou

wouldee's photo
Fri 05/02/08 03:13 PM
Morningsong covered her head with her quote.

Christ is her head and her words are sharing that which a man of God spoke.

I find no fault. Nor do I find fault with her speaking her heart and mind.

Acquila and Priscilla did as well and they are honored by Paul in his writings, as well as Luke's in the Book of Acts. And they were present back in the day with the apostles.

Those that would silence her would do better to remind others of what the Bible says more pointedly, which is, come unto Jesus for the rest of your souls.

If anything is to be quoted, let it be at least that.

The Bible also says one must be saved. Why is it that dissenters choose their quotes to be argumentative and not take to heart the greater message upon their own person as it says?

Because, the dissenters would silence anything that suggest personal responsibility for the care and feeding of their own guilty conscience before God.

Torment enough within, that torment from without is offensive.

The offence is a guilty conscience, not the truth.

The truth that sets one free also demands that one choose to accept that freedom.

Appeasement is not peace, nor is silencing any.


show the respect for diversity that you who dissent demand!!!!

hypocrites.

flowerforyou :heart: bigsmile




yzrabbit1's photo
Fri 05/02/08 04:28 PM

Morningsong covered her head with her quote.

Christ is her head and her words are sharing that which a man of God spoke.

I find no fault. Nor do I find fault with her speaking her heart and mind.

Acquila and Priscilla did as well and they are honored by Paul in his writings, as well as Luke's in the Book of Acts. And they were present back in the day with the apostles.

Those that would silence her would do better to remind others of what the Bible says more pointedly, which is, come unto Jesus for the rest of your souls.

If anything is to be quoted, let it be at least that.

The Bible also says one must be saved. Why is it that dissenters choose their quotes to be argumentative and not take to heart the greater message upon their own person as it says?

Because, the dissenters would silence anything that suggest personal responsibility for the care and feeding of their own guilty conscience before God.

Torment enough within, that torment from without is offensive.

The offence is a guilty conscience, not the truth.

The truth that sets one free also demands that one choose to accept that freedom.

Appeasement is not peace, nor is silencing any.


show the respect for diversity that you who dissent demand!!!!

hypocrites.

flowerforyou :heart: bigsmile








I think it makes perfect sense when someone claims that the Bible is word for word from God. It is at those times that the ridiculous and contradictory verses need to be pointed out.

The real question is why do "Fundamentalist Christians" that supposedly love this word of God, never bring up these verses on their own. Are there some verses that are not Gods best work. I would like to hear why they don't want to discuss the importance of stoning in the modern day.

I have a feeling they actually pick and choose which verses they will take seriously and live by. While at the same time saying it is wrong for anyone else to do the same.

Milesoftheusa's photo
Fri 05/02/08 04:49 PM
point any of them out wabbitt and i will see if see if they really are. I have not found but 1 in the old testament that still is the same thought but uses different people. I believe it is a mistake. But if you qant a challenge I am up to it. If i do not get back with it tonight i will. Shalom Wabbittdrinker

MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 05/02/08 04:51 PM
flowerforyou Which version of the Bible is the most accurate?flowerforyou

joker69176's photo
Fri 05/02/08 04:54 PM
I SAY BELIEVE IN WHAT U CAN SEE AND FEEL. NOT SOMETHING BOOK THAT HAS BEEN PASSED DOWN THE LINES FOR YEARS. ITS LIKE THE TELEPHONE GAME OR HISTORY THE MORE PEOPLE U TELL THE MORE TWISTED IT GETS

Milesoftheusa's photo
Fri 05/02/08 05:04 PM
What my biggest problem is all the copy and pasting of articles from ministirs or such and not by the posters own knowledge or own studying of any topic. Now i copy and paste scripture. But i will use nobodies work. It is hard to defend. I wish that posters would use what they know from studying and proving to themselves a subject matter. Its like copying from a math book a whole bunch of formulas and then saying this is truth without knowing these formulas. You all who see a need and i do not mind to tear into the scriptures. But realise thier is a difference between a jorneyman and a apprentice.The apprentice must first study and prove on his own, Then he has a foot to stand on. Abra I am sure would say science works this way. I could not possibly see a science student give a question and answer siminar with a book he may of read but not the experience. He must know the book from experience then he can speak on what it says. So just lighten up alittle and show interest and disbelief seeking with deligence what is really the object of the matter..Shalom ..Milesnoway

wouldee's photo
Fri 05/02/08 05:05 PM


Morningsong covered her head with her quote.

Christ is her head and her words are sharing that which a man of God spoke.

I find no fault. Nor do I find fault with her speaking her heart and mind.

Acquila and Priscilla did as well and they are honored by Paul in his writings, as well as Luke's in the Book of Acts. And they were present back in the day with the apostles.

Those that would silence her would do better to remind others of what the Bible says more pointedly, which is, come unto Jesus for the rest of your souls.

If anything is to be quoted, let it be at least that.

The Bible also says one must be saved. Why is it that dissenters choose their quotes to be argumentative and not take to heart the greater message upon their own person as it says?

Because, the dissenters would silence anything that suggest personal responsibility for the care and feeding of their own guilty conscience before God.

Torment enough within, that torment from without is offensive.

The offence is a guilty conscience, not the truth.

The truth that sets one free also demands that one choose to accept that freedom.

Appeasement is not peace, nor is silencing any.


show the respect for diversity that you who dissent demand!!!!

hypocrites.

flowerforyou :heart: bigsmile








I think it makes perfect sense when someone claims that the Bible is word for word from God. It is at those times that the ridiculous and contradictory verses need to be pointed out.

The real question is why do "Fundamentalist Christians" that supposedly love this word of God, never bring up these verses on their own. Are there some verses that are not Gods best work. I would like to hear why they don't want to discuss the importance of stoning in the modern day.

I have a feeling they actually pick and choose which verses they will take seriously and live by. While at the same time saying it is wrong for anyone else to do the same.




Rabbit,

perhaps some do, but then again not everyone professing to be a Christian is one.

As far as the stoning example goes, your memory is better than you give yourself credit for. I have pointed that context out months ago, and yet, you still don't give the context to that ordinance that it deserves.

Meanwhile, Christianity is not about laws and ordinances of justice socially, but rather spiritually, and for good reason;
men will always twist the context of righteousness. The issue is for personal edification more appropriately in Christiuan doctrine.

But then, much is amiss in churchianity in America today. To that, I would agree.

Remember, Rabbit, that Judaism died when the silence of the prophets of the Lord were silenced. It has been 2400 years since that silence.

Was it without good reason?

Chew on that.

flowerforyou :heart: bigsmile

Milesoftheusa's photo
Fri 05/02/08 05:08 PM
Mirrormirror

I believe The Scriptures.. From The Institute of Biblical Knowledge....But it is not a conformists version. They have over 25 years studied and put the Hebrew and the Greek in it's proper form without the western worlds interference of wanting it to read as they want it to..Blessings..Miles

Quikstepper's photo
Fri 05/02/08 05:55 PM


How to interpret anything you read.

Read the words.
Know the defintions.
Know the context.

You have failed to do any of those Rabbit.



Actually I agree with you. The key word is "interpret". The book is open to interpretation. Not just the cold dead words. The article is trying to say that the King James in English is the word of God.

I think that is open for interpretation.


Well actually the Bible is the inspired word OF GOD. That means God used humanity to say what He wanted us to know. It is Spirit BREATHED so no man can boast...or make any old interpretation. Tho many do try. :) It's not about me or what I believe...it's about God & what He says is truth.

It can be known to anyone with a sincere desire to know Him. Guess what...it's inspired...when you come to a realization that someone you don't know confirms...that is God's Holy Spirit interceding.

God bless...

MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 05/02/08 06:02 PM

Mirrormirror

I believe The Scriptures.. From The Institute of Biblical Knowledge....But it is not a conformists version. They have over 25 years studied and put the Hebrew and the Greek in it's proper form without the western worlds interference of wanting it to read as they want it to..Blessings..Miles
flowerforyou okay thank youflowerforyou

Quikstepper's photo
Fri 05/02/08 06:03 PM


Morningsong covered her head with her quote.

Christ is her head and her words are sharing that which a man of God spoke.

I find no fault. Nor do I find fault with her speaking her heart and mind.

Acquila and Priscilla did as well and they are honored by Paul in his writings, as well as Luke's in the Book of Acts. And they were present back in the day with the apostles.

Those that would silence her would do better to remind others of what the Bible says more pointedly, which is, come unto Jesus for the rest of your souls.

If anything is to be quoted, let it be at least that.

The Bible also says one must be saved. Why is it that dissenters choose their quotes to be argumentative and not take to heart the greater message upon their own person as it says?

Because, the dissenters would silence anything that suggest personal responsibility for the care and feeding of their own guilty conscience before God.

Torment enough within, that torment from without is offensive.

The offence is a guilty conscience, not the truth.

The truth that sets one free also demands that one choose to accept that freedom.

Appeasement is not peace, nor is silencing any.


show the respect for diversity that you who dissent demand!!!!

hypocrites.

flowerforyou :heart: bigsmile








I think it makes perfect sense when someone claims that the Bible is word for word from God. It is at those times that the ridiculous and contradictory verses need to be pointed out.

The real question is why do "Fundamentalist Christians" that supposedly love this word of God, never bring up these verses on their own. Are there some verses that are not Gods best work. I would like to hear why they don't want to discuss the importance of stoning in the modern day.

I have a feeling they actually pick and choose which verses they will take seriously and live by. While at the same time saying it is wrong for anyone else to do the same.


Maybe because it took MAN time to evolve into what we are today. For example, at one time men married more than one woman...they decided that was too many! DUH! LOL...just jokin' around with yu.

Again...God's word is spirit inspired & not of man. Can you gain wisdom just like that for the asking, or is it a LEARNED thing? Jesus said, Take My yoke upon you, & LEARN of Me.

Did man evolve by standing still or by taking risks? Whalla! Faith! ITMT, God throughout the ages has always revealed Himself to those who would accept His invitation.

Again, not to fight but explain. It's the Christian way. Jesus is the ONLY Way, Truth & Life.

MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 05/02/08 06:03 PM

Mirrormirror

I believe The Scriptures.. From The Institute of Biblical Knowledge....But it is not a conformists version. They have over 25 years studied and put the Hebrew and the Greek in it's proper form without the western worlds interference of wanting it to read as they want it to..Blessings..Miles
flowerforyou Do you believe the (message of the) Bible is "GOD"?flowerforyou

Quikstepper's photo
Fri 05/02/08 06:05 PM

flowerforyou Which version of the Bible is the most accurate?flowerforyou


King James is the best place to start. :)

Quikstepper's photo
Fri 05/02/08 06:07 PM

I SAY BELIEVE IN WHAT U CAN SEE AND FEEL. NOT SOMETHING BOOK THAT HAS BEEN PASSED DOWN THE LINES FOR YEARS. ITS LIKE THE TELEPHONE GAME OR HISTORY THE MORE PEOPLE U TELL THE MORE TWISTED IT GETS


I always believed that too. How can I relate to something that isn't REAL for me? I can say this...it's REAL. the word of God is real. I'm experiencing new things every day.

MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 05/02/08 06:10 PM


flowerforyou Which version of the Bible is the most accurate?flowerforyou


King James is the best place to start. :)

flowerforyou Who wrote it? flowerforyou And what year was it first published?flowerforyou

Quikstepper's photo
Fri 05/02/08 06:14 PM


Mirrormirror

I believe The Scriptures.. From The Institute of Biblical Knowledge....But it is not a conformists version. They have over 25 years studied and put the Hebrew and the Greek in it's proper form without the western worlds interference of wanting it to read as they want it to..Blessings..Miles
flowerforyou Do you believe the (message of the) Bible is "GOD"?flowerforyou


I believe it's about God......His plan & His will for Humanity.

Quikstepper's photo
Fri 05/02/08 06:21 PM

How to interpret anything you read.

Read the words.
Know the defintions.
Know the context.



Well actually the article was just stating some things that occured as a result of man's attempts to understand God with their own imaginations. Having said that...

Your assessments are correct. We need to understand what we are reading as well as know what it truly means for us. Without that, it's just words on a page... or worse...like looking at blank pages. Which is where HUMANITY, not God, goes wrong. I think that was the point of this article.

The only way to the Father is thru His Son.

Milesoftheusa's photo
Fri 05/02/08 07:07 PM
I believe it is inspired. And that it has been messed with putting it in the English language at least.But with Technology as Daniel predicted would happen the scriptures can be interpreted correctly now. Which I do Believe Yahweh's hand is in that for us to find what he really has given us as a Jewel of life Blessings..Miles

MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 05/02/08 09:37 PM

I believe it is inspired. And that it has been messed with putting it in the English language at least.But with Technology as Daniel predicted would happen the scriptures can be interpreted correctly now. Which I do Believe Yahweh's hand is in that for us to find what he really has given us as a Jewel of life Blessings..Miles
flowerforyou Thank youflowerforyou