Topic: "Jesus" Fact or Fiction
Bobbie419's photo
Tue 04/22/08 01:21 PM
laugh laugh laugh laugh

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Tue 04/22/08 02:12 PM
you know why ppl still beleave in jesus christ its because of a little imaginary place far far away called hell ppl are scarded to stop beleaveing just because they might go to hell so they make up a excuse "faith"

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Tue 04/22/08 02:15 PM

you know why ppl still beleave in jesus christ its because of a little imaginary place far far away called hell ppl are scarded to stop beleaveing just because they might go to hell so they make up a excuse "faith"


What do you base your belief in evolution on?

What do you base your belief in the earths age on?

What do you base your rejection of Jesus on?

The answer to all three is faith.

You have faith that scientists are right and you have faith that Jesus isn't real. You have no proof of what you believe, but yet you try to "help" us poor deluded, guided solely by faith Chirstians. Sorry man, but everyone lives by faith, because there is a great deal that we don't know.

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Tue 04/22/08 02:19 PM
roflmao....if you knew ANYTHING about me...you would know I'm not scared to speak my mind. Yes I believe Jesus is real. there are ancient documents about it that can be dated to back then...but it's also about faith

oh BTW...santa claus was real..he's name was St Nicholas from Germany

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Tue 04/22/08 02:45 PM

i dont mean to pick on anyone but anyone who beleaves today with all the technology we have that the earth is only 6000 years old as the bible says is just plan tupid

I saw a fallen tree once it had 7416 rings on it... oh maybe that was from the 'shrooms... Dang I hate organicsdrinker drinker drinker

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Tue 04/22/08 02:49 PM


i dont mean to pick on anyone but anyone who beleaves today with all the technology we have that the earth is only 6000 years old as the bible says is just plan tupid

I saw a fallen tree once it had 7416 rings on it... oh maybe that was from the 'shrooms... Dang I hate organicsdrinker drinker drinker


It's long been proven that tree rings doesn't represent the age in years. That counting system is easliy distorted by warm winters, cold summers, fires, volcanic activity, dust storms and the list goes on.

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 04/22/08 02:51 PM
who said the earth is only 6000 yrs old. first off....time frames where invented by man. they created them to help make things clear etc. God doesn't use time frames...if God created something in one day (like Genesis says) who says that is a 24 hour time? one day could mean 1000 of years

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Tue 04/22/08 02:52 PM
What do you base your belief in evolution on?

What do you base your belief in the earths age on?

What do you base your rejection of Jesus on?

The answer to all three is faith.

You have faith that scientists are right and you have faith that Jesus isn't real. You have no proof of what you believe, but yet you try to "help" us poor deluded, guided solely by faith Chirstians. Sorry man, but everyone lives by faith, because there is a great deal that we don't know.



drinker Well said spider!

But your assessment on the growth rings of trees is suspect, especially of a tree that exists in a seasonal climate. The rings are not an absolute, but they are very accurate in most cases.

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Tue 04/22/08 02:57 PM
psst...science doesn't even agree on everything..just a thought

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Tue 04/22/08 03:00 PM

Jesus Christ did not exist. If he did there is no acceptable evidence for it. And if there is acceptable evidence then it is too flimsy to justify taking Jesus seriously as a god or wizard. The nearest we get to evidence for Jesus having lived is the anonymously authored and partisan four gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John for everything else is far more, or could be, hearsay than what they are.



If Jesus had really been a new messenger from God, had he really been the Son of God, some writings of his would have been left behind. He left nothing at all. There are no writings attributed to Jesus. There are no archaeological artefacts. It is impossible to believe that God would have done nothing to make sure that some direct evidence to Jesus existed. All we have is hearsay. Hearsay isn’t always wrong but it is not very convincing. God didn’t ensure that any direct evidence for Jesus survived therefore God doesn’t care if we doubt or even disbelieve the existence of Jesus.

watch a few shows on the History Channel, plenty of evidence that the man existed :smile:

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Tue 04/22/08 03:01 PM


there are thousands of poems about santa clause butwhy dont you beleave in him!


Saint Nicholas of Myra is the primary inspiration for the Christian figure of Santa Claus. He was a 4th-century Greek Christian bishop of Myra in Lycia, a province of the Byzantine Anatolia, now in Turkey. Nicholas was famous for his generous gifts to the poor, in particular presenting the three impoverished daughters of a pious Christian with dowries so that they would not have to become prostitutes.

He did exist:wink: thank you!happy drinker

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Tue 04/22/08 03:03 PM

Has anyone found the body of Jimmy Hoffa?

Or did he never exist either?
Last I heard his body is in the foundation of a football stadium on the 50 yrd line:wink:

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Tue 04/22/08 03:05 PM
Edited by notmytimeline20x6 on Tue 04/22/08 03:06 PM

What is even more incredible and impossible to explain is this. Why did everybody forge writings and traditions in the name of the apostles and some other New Testament characters, but not Jesus himself? Even Gnostics never attributed any of their books to Jesus but to his apostles or some other disciple of Jesus. And Gnostics often believed that Jesus was a vision seeming to be a man not a man and sought direct revelation from him. Yet they came up with no book claiming to be the direct word of Jesus or even to be something that Jesus had written. If Gnostic and orthodox Christians believed in Jesus as someone who had been on earth, they certainly did not believe that there was any sensible reason for thinking he had been. They had their reasons yes. But these reasons had nothing to do with the kind of evidence a detective or historian or archaeologist would consider.
Writings pen by Jesus can be found in the desd sea scrolls:wink:

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Tue 04/22/08 03:18 PM

i dont mean to pick on anyone but anyone who beleaves today with all the technology we have that the earth is only 6000 years old as the bible says is just plan tupid
I know a geologist you need to read up on, before you label something as 'tupid' :tongue:

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Tue 04/22/08 03:24 PM


As a non religious person I like to pose questions that provoke thought (and maybe a little something else) in those who have such stifiling beliefs that they fear the natural process of life. Loosen up and live a little. If there is a God I doubt he/she/it is going to be upset that you enjoyed your life, body and short time on this planet.

Indeed what more important is ones INTENT is it self serving or for the benefit of others as well
he's either looking for his faith, or the ok to do what he wants in life with no consequencesindifferent

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Wed 04/23/08 06:53 PM
Fiction is my answer . This is pure and simple with no sweat to reach such a conclusion!.

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Wed 04/23/08 09:05 PM
Trouble makersnoway noway noway

yellowrose10's photo
Wed 04/23/08 09:10 PM
hey!!!! i'm sweet and innocent lol

BUT...(you knew there would be so don't be shocked lol)...whether you believe Jesus is the Son of God or not..there is ancient documents proving he existed

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Wed 04/23/08 09:13 PM
Actually, Santa Claus, was real. His real name was Saint Nick. Look it up.

yellowrose10's photo
Wed 04/23/08 09:15 PM
tiffany...i beat you to that lol